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hellow , am new here just registered right now . am a medical student from germany , i have been prepared for step 1 9 months now and i did silly mistake of applying before know exactly when to take , and this lead me into ask for extension of exam taking . my first application was ending at 31st march , and i decided to extend it due to some reasons , but i applied and my first application with form 183-E where rejected due to reason like STAMP OR SEAL OF YAR MEDICAL SCHOOL DOESNT MATCH WITH ECFMG RECORDS . i tried called them and spoke wth them , they told me is not same , but i asked is same as my first application form 183 . i said OK , will do again , i did again and send them same stamp in my document , but again today i got email from them with same reason of rejection and i dont know waht to do . i called them today and talk to them but they spoke with me for two minutes and then ask me to wait and they dissappear from call . real i dont know what to do , because all cop[ies of documents i have here since first application , with same stamp up to these documents for exam extension . even my school dean , doesnt understand what ECFMG want . anyone help me please because today was my last day and everything finished , was my deadline . but this is unfair for these ECFMG that do to me . same stamp they agreed me sit for exam in till 31 march , same stamp i used to ask for extension . now they speak things crazly .
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please anyone guys , i do not know what to do . berging you guys , help me what next step to do . i was thinking to fax them all my documents , because they are same everything i see . signature , stamp medical school official . everything same , may be because they are in germany language ? but why they accepted me first time with my 183 form and gave me eligibility for exam till 31 st march ? doesnt sound logical to say NO for extension with documents with same stamp and same signature , two times . this is craze
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any seniors here ? help me please , am confuzed real
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The Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG) is unable to process your
request for an extension of a USMLE Step 1 eligibility period
part received April 15, 2013) for the reason described below.
The stamp or seal of the medical school official is required and must be affixed to the
designated area of the form. The medical school seal must match the seal for your medical school
that is on record at ECFMG.
In order to have your eligibility period extended you must submit a new on-line request by
accessing IWA on the ECFMG website at www.ecfmg.org <http://www.ecfmg.org>. At the end of
the on-line application you must print and have submitted a new Certification Statement (Form 183-
E) properly completed.
If you meet the eligibility requirements and wish to submit another request for extension of a
USMLE Step 1 eligibility period, you may submit a new on-line request by accessing IWA on the
ECFMG website at www.ecfmg.org <http://www.ecfmg.org>.
Note, if your application is rejected, the money you had paid for that application will automatically . THIS IS WHAT THEY SEND ME TODAY (for my second time extension ask application ) same thing they sent me first time rjection . (((
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The Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG) is unable to process your
request for an extension of a USMLE Step 1 eligibility period (Application Code xxxxxxxxxxx, online
part received April 15, 2013) for the reason described below.
The stamp or seal of the medical school official is required and must be affixed to the
designated area of the form. The medical school seal must match the seal for your medical school
that is on record at ECFMG.

THIS IS WHAT THEY SEND ME TODAY (SECOND TIME , same thing as what they send me first time too in my extension application ) real i dont know what they want , what is my mistake .
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seniors , fellows , doctors , administrator ..., anyone with knowledge about my situation . how to proceed , it seems am already blocked , and journey is ending in ths way , and lost all my time , my money ((( unbelievable how they work these ECFMG
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hey as far as i know about extension of a graduate - if they accepted a form 1st then to get a rolling 3 month extension all you need to do is request one through your ecfmg online service homepage.i dont think its necessary to send in another form.

heres a link from this forum that helped me.
The Complete Guide to ECFMG Forms

best of luck.
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Something like that happened to me a couple months ago and I already took step 1, so my first advice is don't worry too much because this problem is very common and has a solution.

I am going to share a little bit of my experience, my school sent the form with my school stamp/seal and then I got a letter that said something like "the stamp has to cover the picture" so I thought probably someone made a mistake in my school and I went to my school told them about the problem and they sent a new form again.
3 weeks later I got an email with exactly the same letter: "the stamp has to cover the picture" and I was very upset and called them (ECFMG) and I was lucky to talk with a nice lady who told me that the problem wasn't the seal on the picture, the problem was that my school was sending their new seal "2012-2015" and they had in their register the old one "2008-2011".

The solution: my school's dean sent a note to let them know about the new seal and attached my form, two weeks later I got an email to let me know that I was able to take my exam and everything was in order.

I think sometimes they want to make sure everything is in order for security purposes.

Go to your med school and let them know about the problem and ask them for their cooperation and help, maybe the ink is not the same color, maybe they change their seal ask both ECFMG and your school.

*Advice, call ECFMG like 5-10 times to ask the reason, sometimes they just tell you the same reason you got in the letter and they don't help
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Some posts with kind of the same problem:
Resending Form 186
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Something like that happened to me a couple months ago and I already took step 1, so my first advice is don't worry too much because this problem is very common and has a solution.

I am going to share a little bit of my experience, my school sent the form with my school stamp/seal and then I got a letter that said something like "the stamp has to cover the picture" so I thought probably someone made a mistake in my school and I went to my school told them about the problem and they sent a new form again.
3 weeks later I got an email with exactly the same letter: "the stamp has to cover the picture" and I was very upset and called them (ECFMG) and I was lucky to talk with a nice lady who told me that the problem wasn't the seal on the picture, the problem was that my school was sending their new seal "2012-2015" and they had in their register the old one "2008-2011".

The solution: my school's dean sent a note to let them know about the new seal and attached my form, two weeks later I got an email to let me know that I was able to take my exam and everything was in order.

I think sometimes they want to make sure everything is in order for security purposes.

Go to your med school and let them know about the problem and ask them for their cooperation and help, maybe the ink is not the same color, maybe they change their seal ask both ECFMG and your school.

*Advice, call ECFMG like 5-10 times to ask the reason, sometimes they just tell you the same reason you got in the letter and they don't help
thanks for your response . my situation is that i applied safe and succesfuly to take exam in jan - febr - march , and because am student so i didnt use 186 form that use graduates , but rather 183 form . the form was stamped with my medical school and signed , and was agreed and well processed for that eligibility i mentioned above . so i was done with that . things came into hardness in 24th narch when i decided extend my exam inorder to take it in april - may - june . i did all right procedures , fill online application and then get printed required form 183-E , i went to my dean , they signed (same person as my first 183 ) and then stamped it as usual how we do in my meedical school and follow all procedure for sending it from his office as usual . i stayed wait and get feedback that stamp doesnt match or seal doesnt match ..affix the stamp on designated area, this was rejection email from ECFMG . i was shocked , ad i took all copies (because i always make copies and scan of all things that i send to ecfmg ) i tried compare and it was same round stamp with blue color with germany words around as always looks our stamp . so i decide go to my dean office and they were shocked too , because when i applied for this exam first time (form 183 ) they put same stamp . my dean didnt understand it , why not same ? well we decided make another application form (183-E) and send again , and just yesterdfay got the email of ECFMG that they cant process it with same reason as first time , same email just different date only . Now i dont know . because if is medical school change stamp , how ths can be that they dont know or dean doesnt know they changed it ? and if is about color of stamp , i see is blue or violet i can say . if is all about old and new stamp , my first form that was processed and agreed for exam to take till march 31 , isnt long time i stamped it , it was just november i did it . and it was OK . why these not OK ? i dont get them . and i have already talked wth ECFMG 10 times they speak not same not same , tell me how not same , they dont say . they take phone , talk with me 3 minutes , aand ask wait and they disappear on air . real i cant get them . and the problem is all procedures for extension for my exam has deadline of 25th april which is already yesterdqay . so it means i have lost my money in this way ? lost my time in this way ? and i have to pay them again ? or hhow to do pablogarcia .
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Go to your school tomorrow morning and fill the papers again and ask your dean to fill these letter.

Dear Sir or Madam:

These seal is to provide ECFMG the seal and signature of the medical school officials from THE NAME OF YOUR SCHOOL OF MEDICINE that are authorized to certify documents and to verify the authenticity of credential of our medical school students.


Name of your Dean and signature the seal

Name of your school secretary or whoever is in charge in case your dean is absent.

Tell your school officials to use the same seal they are using in your form E183 and to attach the 183E form.

The letter has to be official, with date, and header of your school.

I think this is the best way to do it, ECFMG wants to make sure you are a real medical student from your school, they don't want to take the risk of being scammed that's is way they are being so picky.

Try to talk to some of your friends who have done step 1 or who are in the same process as you to make sure you are doing everything ok, I mean every school is different and I didn't have to send form 183 I sent form 186, but I guess your school doesn't participare in the ECFMG medical school web portal (EMSWP).

Don't give up!! be aware that all this things are going to happend especially if we are IMG's.
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thanks for your response . my situation is that i applied safe and succesfuly to take exam in jan - febr - march , and because am student so i didnt use 186 form that use graduates , but rather 183 form . the form was stamped with my medical school and signed , and was agreed and well processed for that eligibility i mentioned above . so i was done with that . things came into hardness in 24th narch when i decided extend my exam inorder to take it in april - may - june . i did all right procedures , fill online application and then get printed required form 183-E , i went to my dean , they signed (same person as my first 183 ) and then stamped it as usual how we do in my meedical school and follow all procedure for sending it from his office as usual . i stayed wait and get feedback that stamp doesnt match or seal doesnt match ..affix the stamp on designated area, this was rejection email from ECFMG . i was shocked , ad i took all copies (because i always make copies and scan of all things that i send to ecfmg ) i tried compare and it was same round stamp with blue color with germany words around as always looks our stamp . so i decide go to my dean office and they were shocked too , because when i applied for this exam first time (form 183 ) they put same stamp . my dean didnt understand it , why not same ? well we decided make another application form (183-E) and send again , and just yesterdfay got the email of ECFMG that they cant process it with same reason as first time , same email just different date only . Now i dont know . because if is medical school change stamp , how ths can be that they dont know or dean doesnt know they changed it ? and if is about color of stamp , i see is blue or violet i can say . if is all about old and new stamp , my first form that was processed and agreed for exam to take till march 31 , isnt long time i stamped it , it was just november i did it . and it was OK . why these not OK ? i dont get them . and i have already talked wth ECFMG 10 times they speak not same not same , tell me how not same , they dont say . they take phone , talk with me 3 minutes , aand ask wait and they disappear on air . real i cant get them . and the problem is all procedures for extension for my exam has deadline of 25th april which is already yesterdqay . so it means i have lost my money in this way ? lost my time in this way ? and i have to pay them again ? or hhow to do pablogarcia .
Hey,dont worry much..!! Something like this happened to one of my friends n I remember that her 183 was all filled properly and stamped but the office stamp was not on the place of seal wer ECFMG mntioned it 2 be,instead it was in wrong place covering the photo and form....Hence they rejected n sent her an email saying affix the stamp in designated area...So you better double check all the signatures and stamp n make sure they are in the right place..
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thanks guys for your response and helpful suggestions , i went to medical school and explain real situation , they understood situation but they double check all documents and all copies that i had for those documents i sent to ecfmg already from beginning , they said same stamp , what NOT same they dont know . dean promised talk with ecfmg evening while at home , because of different time zone hereand philadephia , he was unable to speak with ECFMG from his office hours . so am waiting , he will call me after speak with them and know what is real problem .
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but my another concern again is , yesterday was my deadline for extension and it was day they sent me that email after receiving my application since 17th april ( second time extension application , after first being rejected at 12th april ) . so my question is , if they will solve this issue of stamp , then what next keep in mind that i have deadline yesterday , are they going allow me to extend ? or is already gone , and will berequired to re apply with new fees for application ?confused ,
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just read the first post .... it is possible that the authorize person from ur med school may have changed (like retired or transferred) and ur institution has authorize someone else and now only his signatures will be recognized .... this happened in our college .... our principal changed and now our dean signs the docs .... hope it helps
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