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Computer Paper Size for Medical Diploma for the ECFMG

ECFMG says that:

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The photocopies of your medical diploma must be 216 mm x 279 mm (8 in x 11 in). If these documents are larger than 216 mm x 279 mm (8 in x 11 in), you must send reduced photocopies that are 216 mm x 279 mm (8 in x 11 in).
Does the size need to be exactly as the one shown? Would it be alright if the size is a few mm smaller? I can notice they mentioned they don't want larger sizes, but they didn't mention they don't want smaller ones.

I'm having difficulty finding this exact paper size.

What do you think I should do?
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Arrow Paper size different in USA from other countries

The problem is that the most common standard size in North America is what's called the "letter" size which is as you mentioned (215.9X279.4 mm or 8.5X11") while the most common size in other countries is what's called the "A4" size which is (210X297 mm or 8.26X11.69").

Since you are unlikely to find a letter sized paper in your country, it should be fine if you send them an A4 paper size as the dimensions are not entirely different.

You can insert a small paper note in your envelop that you will send to them explaining for them the issue and they will accept it.

For further details on this issue read this http://betweenborders.com/wordsmithing/a4-vs-us-letter/
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Thanks lee.

I've actually visited a lot of bookstores searching for this paper, but couldn't find any! One of the bookstores recognized that it's an American-standard paper. So, I thought I'd print the diploma on a bigger A4 paper, then crop it manually with scissors. Then I found out that A4 width is smaller than that of the letter size!

What about if I get an even bigger A3 size (not even sure if it's available here), and crop it?

This may sound insane, but I don't want to run the risk of getting the application rejected as I'm already late in applying.
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As I advised you in my previous post.

Send them an A4 paper and also a small note explaining the situation. They will accept it. You are not the first one to have this issue. Thousands of IMGs before applied with A4 paper and got accepted, ECFMG is aware that the "letter" size is not available in other countries.

If you are still worried, give them a call and see what they tell you.
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Could you please provide me with an example of what I should write in that note?
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Could you please provide me with an example of what I should write in that note?
You can tell them something like the following:

Dear ECFMG,

Please note that there's no 8.5X11" sized paper in my country and therefore my Diploma is being copied on an A4 paper size which is near (but not exactly similar) to the dimensions that you requested.

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But, I also have another idea for you.

You can send the Diploma copy to any friend in USA and that friend can copy it for you on a "letter" size paper.
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You can tell them something like the following:

Dear ECFMG,

Please note that there's no 8.5X11" sized paper in my country and therefore my Diploma is being copied on an A4 paper size which is near (but not exactly similar) to the dimensions that you requested.

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But, I also have another idea for you.

You can send the Diploma copy to any friend in USA and that friend can copy it for you on a "letter" size paper.
Thanks. I wrote a note similar to this one. That's a great idea, but I think it would take some time, and I need to send in the papers tomorrow.

Btw, do I need to staple papers together? Like the original diploma and the translation, or the multi-page forms like 344 and 187.
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Thanks. I wrote a note similar to this one. That's a great idea, but I think it would take some time, and I need to send in the papers tomorrow.

Btw, do I need to staple papers together? Like the original diploma and the translation, or the multi-page forms like 344 and 187.
Do not Staple. You can just clip them using this;
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The 'legal' paper size which is fairly common around the world is a longer version of the 'letter' size. A4 is narrower and longer than 'letter'. You can cut a ream of 'legal' sized paper to 'letter' size paper after, take them to a photocopy/xerox shop and ask them specifically to copy the diploma on the paper after setting the machine to 'letter' size paper. I don't believe that you need a note to accompany it. As a poster above mentioned, they get things from all over the world and it's unlikely to be a major issue.
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its an old thread but any ways... anybody had trouble with A4 size sheets... i mean with all the photocopies of diplomas and what nots!
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its an old thread but any ways... anybody had trouble with A4 size sheets... i mean with all the photocopies of diplomas and what nots!
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I called the ecfmg about 2 weeks ago for this issue i was told it's ok to send A4 paper...so go ahead
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Hey docsar
I called the ecfmg about 2 weeks ago for this issue i was told it's ok to send A4 paper...so go ahead

After filing an incorrect application and then overriding it.. I've been second guessing every step. As if the sstudy isn't hard enough that these issues take up your time.. Thanks a tonne though
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Paper size is not a matter .I appled with A 4 size everything went right.Excep some problems with signature of the official in my medical school..
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