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Help Form 186 rejected; ECFMG says medical school person not authorized

Hello everyone...

I am a medical graduate from India...my 186 form got rejected...last week I got an email from ECFMG which mentioned that I have to resend 186 form...they mentioned two points:
1) the signature should match exactly as per their records
2) the seal/stamp should match as per their records ...
[ but my medical school officials says that the signature and seal are same as they had sent to ECFMG before]

They (ECFMG) also mentioned that the signature of the medical school official must be current and the official must have signed the Certification of Identification Form (Form 186) within four months of the date that it is received at ECFMG.

They (ECFMG) have also sent an email to my school regarding list of authorized officials who can sign 186

When I called ECFMG they just told me that the signature and the seal does not match and that I have to resend the 186...

now I have some questions :
1) does the medical school has to provide the list of authorized officials to ECFMG every 4 months.
2) does 186 form require both seal and stamp or only the college seal
3) I am really frustrated right now because exam slot is April-June...WHAT should I do..?
4) Can my dates be postponed?

Please reply if anybody knows anything regarding this...
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The ECFMG maintains a record of the people from your college that are authorized to sign form 186. They get that record from two resources:
1) Directly from your medical school
2) By checking the history (people from your school who have applied previously)

The most common reason for the situation that you are facing is that your school have changed the person and/or the stamp and therefore the ECFMG gets suspicious about it and they reject it.

The solution for that, is that your official school people should contact the ECFMG and tell them that they changed the person and that this is the authorized person.

Yes, you can postpone the exam. You can apply for extension of your eligibility period for more information about this please read the threads listed here
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does 186 form require both seal and stamp or only the college seal
Stamp and Seal = two words for the same thing, so am not sure what are you are asking about!
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Stamp and Seal = two words for the same thing, so am not sure what are you are asking about!
thanks a lot for the reply....
i have contacted my medical school...they are going to contact ECFMG tomorrow...

by stamp i meant the details of the official stating his title and the school name


and seal states only school details and it is round in shape..

sounds a bit confusing and funny but in my school they call it separately...

if my school confirms the signature with ECFMG do i have to resend the 186 or ECFMG will carry on with my old 186

n if have to send 186 again do i have to resend the other forms as well
i had sent
1)187 form
2)344
3)345
4) a certificate from the medical school that i am a graduate but my degree will be issued later on

i am scared a bit thats why i am asking all these question
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To be on the safe side, yes, send all the forms again.

As for the (seal/stamp) issue, yes both stuff needed, the title of the official and the seal of the medical school.

The best thing you can do right now, is to wait until your medical school contacts the ECFMG and then you call the ECFMG and tell them that your school have already sent the authorized list and see what they tell you.
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To be on the safe side, yes, send all the forms again.

As for the (seal/stamp) issue, yes both stuff needed, the title of the official and the seal of the medical school.

The best thing you can do right now, is to wait until your medical school contacts the ECFMG and then you call the ECFMG and tell them that your school have already sent the authorized list and see what they tell you.
Thanks a lot for replying ...i hope all goes well ...
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Hi! I have graduated in 2008 from Turkey. Today got e-mail saying that my Form 186 was signed by an inappropriate school official. I sent Form 186 + 187 + 344 + 345 + Translation and photocopies of My diploma. Probably the problem is that my School's Dean is new (less than a one month). I have to resend Form 186 again. Would be there any other problems (for example with translation of diploma, or other forms 344, 345), after they receive my Form 186 second time? Or they would inform me? Thank you!!!
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Hey there!
I got the same problem last year. I sent my form 186 thrice. It was only not rejected the third time. You only need to resend your form 186, dont include the other forms. Thats what the ecfmg said and its what i did. I was forced to cancel my application-no charge- then apply again, since time was wasted with the form 186 thing and only a few weeks was left in my validity period.
Just inform your med school and send your form 186 again asap. And again if it is still rejected.
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ok thank you very much m7angel!!!
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Hi everybody!

I have resent Form 186(3rd time), they have got all of them. But im still waiting for the answer from ECFMG. My Eligibility Period is going to end soon(end of may). Do i have to cancel my application? Could i reapply then again? Or my Eligibility Period will be extended automatically from june to august? Thank you!!!
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Hi everybody!

I have resent Form 186(3rd time), they have got all of them. But im still waiting for the answer from ECFMG. My Eligibility Period is going to end soon(end of may). Do i have to cancel my application? Could i reapply then again? Or my Eligibility Period will be extended automatically from june to august? Thank you!!!


Hello. So sad to hear that. Its a waste of time and money but we have no choice. Try to ask around also if your other schoolmates had or is having thr same problem. Inform your school about this since ecfmg will only listen to the school and not to you.
What i did was i cancelled my application. No fees. I refunded my money as credit in my account. Then i reapplied again after an hour or two. So i changed my eligibility period. Im not sure if they will automatically extend your eligibility period.
Hope you will receive some good news soon
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Thank you m7angel!

Could you write me how did you cancel your application? I cant see any choice on web site for cancelling the application. Unfortunatelly i do not have friends who had the same problem....
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Thank you m7angel!

Could you write me how did you cancel your application? I cant see any choice on web site for cancelling the application. Unfortunatelly i do not have friends who had the same problem....

I unfortunately forgot the exact steps. Heres what i can remember.
Go to ecfmg.org. Go to test scheduling. Then go to step 1 if thats what you applied for. I think there is a choice there for cancelling or the like. You can only do this if your form 186 is still not accepted. If it is already accepted, your step application will already be processed and there will be a charge.

You can also search for it in google
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Thank you!The best way is to call and ask them. Google does not help in such a specific situation
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Thank you!The best way is to call and ask them. Google does not help in such a specific situation
hi dr. serghei
its sad to know about your situation...i know its really frustrating but did you call ecfmg ? what did they say?? I think your new dean has to send his signature to ecfmg and this requires a particular form (i dont remember the specific form ;ask ecfmg people how to get that) on that form he signs and it also has other details like seal/stamp of your school,his name,school name ...this becomes their record for your school...i have personally seen that form at my school when i got rejected...
my 186 got accepted second time..when i called ecfmg after rejection i insisted that they should tell me the exact problem...it took her (ecfmg personnel) a while to search the exact cause and the reason for rejection was so stupid (i think that was stupid)..REASON - in my form, sign matched but under the name of the official my dean wrote full name and on the records of ecfmg it was his initials ...for e.g. on the record it was J.F. Kennedy...in my form he wrote John Fitzgerald Kennedy...they told me name didnt match...lolz and about the seal....my school got it changed and it was same as before with a minor change...the name of area where my school is situated was not mentioned in the new seal..i resent 186 (corrected) plus all other forms (to avoid rejection for a silly reason again)....well i got my form accepted second time and i have the scheduling permit with me now...hope u too get it soon...but call ecfmg first before you do anything and ask the reason for rejection and also ask about eligibility period... i think they will automatically extend your period without charging...but it s better to confirm ...wish u all d best
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Hello Nitish,

Yesterday i called the ECFMG. They said me that they will extend my Eligibility period without new payment! Indeed its not my fault, the only problem is that Dean is new. Thank you guys for your help! Wish you all the best!
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Please help me....my rejected application says:
The stamp or seal of the official who certified your Certification of Identification Form (Form 186) is required.The stamp or seal must cover a portion of your photograph and the Certification of Identification Form (Form 186). What does that mean?
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Please help me....my rejected application says:
The stamp or seal of the official who certified your Certification of Identification Form (Form 186) is required.The stamp or seal must cover a portion of your photograph and the Certification of Identification Form (Form 186). What does that mean?
This means stamp must be partly on the photograph and partly on your form. Be careful seal must not cover your face. It should be below your face on the photograph so that your photo is recognizable. hope it helps.
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Need HELP URGENTLY.. my 186 forum rejected today because our new dean signature doesnt match their records although my school sent a letter regarding the updated authorised officials with my paper but with no benifit.. so how can we change the signature in their records? Is there any special forms !!!!! Please replay
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Please help me....my rejected application says:
The stamp or seal of the official who certified your Certification of Identification Form (Form 186) is required.The stamp or seal must cover a portion of your photograph and the Certification of Identification Form (Form 186). What does that mean?
It's also my problem,oficial seal is same medical school seal?photograph needed two seal?
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Hi, my 186 form rejected today because our new dean signature doesnt match their records. So how can we change the signature in their records? I am medical students and my medical school is present in IMED. So the question is, how my new dean can be the medical school official?

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My form 186 got rejected because it says that the form was not sent from the office of medical college. What should I do? they have asked to resend the form. Does the envelope need a seal or something? How can they tell if the mail is directly from the office or not?
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Hi guys i really need your help here my form 186 was rejected due to signature not match .... my questions are 1- Do i have to send the mentioned form 345 with all my credentials and the form 186 to the ECFMG or 2- Do i have to send back every thing to my school again to get it sign properly or 3- Send both to my school and the ECFMG 4-There is the part of form 345 that says if form 186 rejected send everything to ECFMG .... what about this................thank u guys in advanced .....appreciate any help
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