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Default If Donald Trump wins 2016 , what does it mean for the IMG ? (or Muslims)

Please voice your opinions as to how this would impact the IMG.
Donald trump is a white supremacist ,anti immigrant ,racist , has made statements such as implementing a total ban on muslims from entering the USA.
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Yeah, being a local and looking how the elections are going i think it will definitely affect the Muslims. So you guys maybe should have a backup plan bcoz there is a chance for this road to be difficult if at all possible it seems.
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Screw trump! And screw politics! Even if he becomes the republican candidate, there cannot be any way he wins the presidential election if people are sensible.
Irrespective, work hard and leave the rest to God! That's all u can do really
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honestly he won't do half the things he's proposing.
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however ,one immediate impact will be, he has promised to possibly put a stop to all H1 visas for a year or two for all foreigners
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This dump guy is chaos
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Some one in the US said going by the enthusiasm , Trump is likely to win.
So I'm worried , if he'll make everything upside down. What visa changes can we expect ??
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hope IMG is able practice medicine in US. trump cannot stop all!
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That will definitely affect us , It wil become much more harder to get a visa from our countries
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I am not sure if he really said that. But I read that in this funny fiction interview
http://www.americanbazaaronline.com/...n-camps-43454/

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however ,one immediate impact will be, he has promised to possibly put a stop to all H1 visas for a year or two for all foreigners
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If trump wins it will be difficult. Sorry to say this but if he really will win, a plan b will be a must. Still having fingers crossed
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OK.. guys .. HE won, and also his party won the senate and house of representatives . .NOW WHAT????????????????? ...... Keep going or plan B
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OK.. guys .. HE won, and also his party won the senate and house of representatives . .NOW WHAT????????????????? ...... Keep going or plan B
I knew this day would arrive sooner or later , I'm commenting on my own post after 9 months , and my worst fears have been true as donald trump is elected the 45th POTUS.

I may or may not continue my journey , that is a different thing .
Let us know what you think !
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This has really been really tough for me , i did not study last 2 days because of the elections. Especially since i have never made any out of home country travels , which makes the visa process even more difficult for me.
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Well, he did win. And well, we can not do something about that. All we can do is, continue and work hard. I think it will be too early to say its plan B now.. It has not been even reach 24 hours, much more a year or so. So, it might be early to tell... Anyways, I think the big say for a visa will still be well, the consuls and the embassy and much more the Legislative bodies first.
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This has really been really tough for me , i did not study last 2 days because of the elections. Especially since i have never made any out of home country travels , which makes the visa process even more difficult for me.
I though i was the only one who hasn't been able to study since Monday. okay? ... guys i can not concentrate in my studies rn.
What's going on?
I know he said that we will prioritized works for american citizens and i also heard something about j1 visas................... but the field of medicine is huge isnt it? there are not enough US medical students to cover all the residency position , l am i right , wrong o just paranoid?
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I think it still very hazy to see anything. But in the mean time, if you can get all papers up to work before the first 100 days and match next year, that will certainly help.
There is a giant deficit of physicians in the US and just getting everyone else out its nonsense.
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Yes, it happened. About 25% of us are happy, about 26% of us are nauseated (yes, Clinton actually won more votes, go figure), and around 50% of us didn't vote for one reason or another. We don't really know how they feel.

Our advice is that we still have about 6 weeks under the Obama administration. During this six weeks, if you can, make some decisions, secure your rotations, and get your visas.

It's unlikely that things will change over-night and that we will all wake up on January 21st to an unrecognizable dystopian reality here in the United States. After all, we have a MASSIVE government with many moving parts and this man is going to need intensive tutoring to understand how government works, so it remains to be seen what he can get away with.

Even so, here at Chicago Clerkships we are recommending that those who want to do clinical rotations in 2017 get going now. Don't wait to see what happens.

Best of luck to all of you. Chicago Clerkships is here for you and we will always advocate on behalf of all IMGs. We need you!

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I think it still very hazy to see anything. But in the mean time, if you can get all papers up to work before the first 100 days and match next year, that will certainly help.
There is a giant deficit of physicians in the US and just getting everyone else out its nonsense.
Agreed it will take some time for negative effects to filter down and the deficit of physicians did not go away over night. It is just the pervasive atmosphere of fear and hate (as well as the anti-scientific rhetoric and attacks) which feels overwhelming now. But it is imperative that we stand up through our example and through our profession/professionalism at times like this.
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Yes, it happened. About 25% of us are happy, about 26% of us are nauseated (yes, Clinton actually won more votes, go figure), and around 50% of us didn't vote for one reason or another. We don't really know how they feel.

Our advice is that we still have about 6 weeks under the Obama administration. During this six weeks, if you can, make some decisions, secure your rotations, and get your visas.

It's unlikely that things will change over-night and that we will all wake up on January 21st to an unrecognizable dystopian reality here in the United States. After all, we have a MASSIVE government with many moving parts and this man is going to need intensive tutoring to understand how government works, so it remains to be seen what he can get away with.

Even so, here at Chicago Clerkships we are recommending that those who want to do clinical rotations in 2017 get going now. Don't wait to see what happens.

Best of luck to all of you. Chicago Clerkships is here for you and we will always advocate on behalf of all IMGs. We need you!

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The probable scenario is that we shut down when Trump blocks the visas for our clients. Popular to contrary belief, for ethical companies this business is not a huge money-maker.

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Are you guys continuing your journey? I want to see what you think as I am currently debating quitting the US road and opting for Germany instead. It does not seem very probable that we will be able to get visas in a couple of years and I will be applying for the 2019 Match, so I am kind of thinking it is a very long shot. Have you taken any decisions?
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what are your point of view of the banning of the 7 countries?
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what are your point of view of the banning of the 7 countries?
If you ask me , this was very expected.
While these 7 may face a complete ban , the other countries might have come under the scanner too especially those associated with terror organizations. So one can easily predict / assume the visa issual would be issue.
I'm worried for my own visa !
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Ya like you said
These wan his main policy that his people voted for ,(to restrict immigration and visa issuance , I mean)
I suppose you are already in US, Does peaple expect some arrangement would be made at least for (J-1 visa)
I hope in future they could make some exceptions, especially to people like you(already got their visa)
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As A Syrian I'M in a deep chaotic situation
i have invested alot of time , money and resources for this way
and now every chance is equal to zero
i haven't been to Syria long long time ago even before this civil war have started
and now im stuck without any chances
not a single country accept Syrian passport and no chances to continue my path where i live right now
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As A Syrian I'M in a deep chaotic situation
i have invested alot of time , money and resources for this way
and now every chance is equal to zero
i haven't been to Syria long long time ago even before this civil war have started
and now im stuck without any chances
not a single country accept Syrian passport and no chances to continue my path where i live right now
What do you mean no other country will accept ? What about UK or Australia ?
Or India ?

You can do a home country residency.Your scores would remain valid for 7 years , maybe something changes during this time and you got to stay positive.
I know it's very frustrating
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As A Syrian I'M in a deep chaotic situation
i have invested alot of time , money and resources for this way
and now every chance is equal to zero
i haven't been to Syria long long time ago even before this civil war have started
and now im stuck without any chances
not a single country accept Syrian passport and no chances to continue my path where i live right now
Like doer91 said
We don't know what would happen couple of years from now
Honestly I believe that policies come and go and in-between is a matter of adaptation for us.
Since you've made it to the US , you've done the hard part
I hope a successful future for us all.
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As A Syrian I'M in a deep chaotic situation
i have invested alot of time , money and resources for this way
and now every chance is equal to zero
i haven't been to Syria long long time ago even before this civil war have started
and now im stuck without any chances
not a single country accept Syrian passport and no chances to continue my path where i live right now
Dont give up i wish u the best of luck.. i am sorry theres nothing i can help u with but with my most deepest prayer for u
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i dont get it.... he only proposed a 30 day ban on visas .. so what is the problem? i am asking because i really dont get it...... if u are from any of the 7 ..are u still able to apply to a visa?? probably ppl has to wait more time.. but is no like a bann for indeterminate time
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As A Syrian I'M in a deep chaotic situation
i have invested alot of time , money and resources for this way
and now every chance is equal to zero
i haven't been to Syria long long time ago even before this civil war have started
and now im stuck without any chances
not a single country accept Syrian passport and no chances to continue my path where i live right now
I'm really sorry for your situation. If i were you i would look for any opportunities in syria right now and work in that until the USA situation clears up.
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Has nothing to do with being a Muslim. Plus, why not apply to other countries like Canada or the U.K.? Do you know how many U.S. citizens (mostly IMGs) go unmatched? I mean, I doubt you care -- I wouldn't either if I were you. But in order to practice in the U.S. you have to do U.S. residency. You can't expect the U.S. citizens who graduated medical school to move to a different country because our system makes them compete with foreigners.

And disclaimer. I don't like the travel ban. But I do think that U.S. citizens should not have to compete with foreigners for residency spots.
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Has nothing to do with being a Muslim. Plus, why not apply to other countries like Canada or the U.K.? Do you know how many U.S. citizens (mostly IMGs) go unmatched? I mean, I doubt you care -- I wouldn't either if I were you. But in order to practice in the U.S. you have to do U.S. residency. You can't expect the U.S. citizens who graduated medical school to move to a different country because our system makes them compete with foreigners.

And disclaimer. I don't like the travel ban. But I do think that U.S. citizens should not have to compete with foreigners for residency spots.


quoting spiderman "with great power comes great responsibility" , we all know US is #1 in the medical field .. so that means everybody would want to train in the us, lets not forget a lot of great doctors are IMGs, and also there are not enough AMG to cover the needs of the US population , also we all know there are EXCLUSIVE AMG residency programs .Fair game
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quoting spiderman "with great power comes great responsibility" , we all know US is #1 in the medical field .. so that means everybody would want to train in the us, lets not forget a lot of great doctors are IMGs, and also there are not enough AMG to cover the needs of the US population , also we all know there are EXCLUSIVE AMG residency programs .Fair game
I know there's not enough AMGs to fill up all the spots. But when you factor in U.S. citizen IMGs, then there's more than enough. I'm just saying we should give priority to U.S. citizens first. After all, we pay the taxes which go into the Medicare program which largely fund these residency programs.

And no, sorry Superman. We have no obligation to let foreigners waltz into our country and take jobs from Americans. Those foreigners have home countries where they can train. What do you say to the thousands of U.S. citizen docs that don't match? They can't exactly pick up and move to a third world country to do residency.
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