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Dear Colleagues,

My situation may not be unique, but I guess I am in the limit of the extreme.
Any suggestion or advice will be highly appreciated.

I am 44 y/o, and I Graduated 20 years ago and completed 1 Year Residency in Clinical neurophysiology prior leaving my country to another place where I completed my PhD in mechanisms of specific neurological disease (neuroscience/neurology PhD Program). After coming to US in 2001 for post-doctoral experiences, I have been involved in academic research and secured an Associate Prof. position in a State University (grants, publications = 44, mostly same topic/basic mechanisms of disease), etc,

At this stage of my career I truly want to enter in Clinical Neurology, and specialize in this disease I have being investigating for so many years with a great passion. (Good LoRs from Experts in the field, one of them Neurologist/PhD).

I have finished Step 1 (239) and Step 2 CK (230) first attempt (fresh on late 2013 -2014), and CS is pending in next month.

I am doing observerships in Internal Medicine/Cardiology since April 2014. Many hours per week. Very Strong LoR from there.

It appears Observership may not count for my case, but this is the only thing I can do at this time. I have polished my dormant clinical skills, gained a very good experience with the US medical system and I know well the Electronic Clinical Record software, etc.

Despite all my efforts and considering my unusual long GAP and limited US clinical Experience, what are my real chances to get interviews or Match in Neurology?

Please be free to be brutally honest! I have been desensitized already, so don't worry with my feelings.....

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Dear Colleagues,

My situation may not be unique, but I guess I am in the limit of the extreme.
Any suggestion or advice will be highly appreciated.

I am 44 y/o, and I Graduated 20 years ago and completed 1 Year Residency in Clinical neurophysiology prior leaving my country to another place where I completed my PhD in mechanisms of specific neurological disease (neuroscience/neurology PhD Program). After coming to US in 2001 for post-doctoral experiences, I have been involved in academic research and secured an Associate Prof. position in a State University (grants, publications = 44, mostly same topic/basic mechanisms of disease), etc,

At this stage of my career I truly want to enter in Clinical Neurology, and specialize in this disease I have being investigating for so many years with a great passion. (Good LoRs from Experts in the field, one of them Neurologist/PhD).

I have finished Step 1 (239) and Step 2 CK (230) first attempt (fresh on late 2013 -2014), and CS is pending in next month.

I am doing observerships in Internal Medicine/Cardiology since April 2014. Many hours per week. Very Strong LoR from there.

It appears Observership may not count for my case, but this is the only thing I can do at this time. I have polished my dormant clinical skills, gained a very good experience with the US medical system and I know well the Electronic Clinical Record software, etc.

Despite all my efforts and considering my unusual long GAP and limited US clinical Experience, what are my real chances to get interviews or Match in Neurology?

Please be free to be brutally honest! I have been desensitized already, so don't worry with my feelings.....

I believe out of my search and readings and comparing what is displayed in most of psychiatry (which is my preference) and neurology my second choice is that you have a really good chance especially decent scores with Phd and outstanding publications, aim for ivy leagues thats what they are looking for the only red flag is being away of clinical practice but your credentials stands out, I recall a guy who spent 9 years in NIH and 5 in japan doing phd now he is UCSD doing residency so aim high
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Thanks. It is good to know. I was not considering those competitive Programs because I thought that they are out of my league, but it will never hurt to try.
I will then include some of these programs to my list of ~40 programs seeking for interviews and see how it will go from there.
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Your credentials are awesome I think. You should just do what everybody does, apply to a lot of programs. A list of 40 is ok, but maybe you should increase it more. Make sure your recent LORs state that you have been involved in patient care and discussion and stuff like that. So that they get that you are still interested in clinical neurology
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Thanks. It is good to know. I was not considering those competitive Programs because I thought that they are out of my league, but it will never hurt to try.
I will then include some of these programs to my list of ~40 programs seeking for interviews and see how it will go from there.
Programs are measured with multiple scales one of those scales the number of MD,Phd residents it has thats why your credentials are outstanding
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I didn't know about this, I was planning to apply for programs that offer a lot of positions (>4 at least), usually at large institutions, but I will expand to be above 40 programs, and include also the 'premium' neurology programs, just in case I get lucky.

I am living in small town with only few neurologists and very limited opportunities for shadowing, that's why I am engaged in the clinical/cardiology observership instead of clinical neurology. I thought that this will help at least with the preliminary IM PGY1. I don't have much time left to seek other neurology practice training at least for this round of applications, so, let's see what happen.

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I didn't know about this, I was planning to apply for programs that offer a lot of positions (>4 at least), usually at large institutions, but I will expand to be above 40 programs, and include also the 'premium' neurology programs, just in case I get lucky.

I am living in small town with only few neurologists and very limited opportunities for shadowing, that's why I am engaged in the clinical/cardiology observership instead of clinical neurology. I thought that this will help at least with the preliminary IM PGY1. I don't have much time left to seek other neurology practice training at least for this round of applications, so, let's see what happen.

Thanks all.
from last year NRMP data there were around 690- 700 neurology positions out those positions 120 (Im not sure about the exact number but its around this number) were IMG's whom matched so your talking about less than 20% are positions that IMG's managed to earn, so the big question goes to every IMG why take the risk of limiting your options by applying to less programs if you don't have any financial issues, so 40 is not enough I'd probably apply to them all for the sake of securing the largest number of interviews
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Your CV is super Awesome. I actually heard about a guy from one of my seniors who had greater than 10 years of Graduation,did his PhD in US and then entered Residency in Neurology from Drexel and doing Stroke Fellowship now. Just aim high.PhD is and the number of Publications you have make you just another IMG who can compete with AMG in top Programs. Since you are in the system for so many years makes your CV very attractive. Aim high.

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