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Default J1 visa research issue!! plz suggest! urgent!

Can anybody who has experience please guide me regarding my situation.I've taken J1visa for research recently to obtain research in US before residency, 'm applying for match 2016.Though i was under the impression earlier that it is exempt from the 2 yr HRR, now i have doubts about it.Can anybody, esp an indian IMG, can suggest if they have gone through J1 research visa and whether it poses any obstacle in ur residency? and, if so now what options do i have?.Plz help me as it's urgent for me.
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Relax. I understand these visa issues can be very confusing! I'll tell you what I know,

1. Once a J1 always a J1. So, now when you apply and match for residency, you can only go for a J1 clinical and not H1B.

2. 2 yr HRR applies for both J1 research and J1 clinical. But, it only applies when you want to convert from "J1 category visa" to H1B/Greencard. NOT when you convert from J1 research to clinical. After your TOTAL J1 visa time frame lapses(7 odd years!), then ONLY 2 yr HRR kicks in.

So, you are in a safe position right now with regards to applying for a residency in 2016.

Hope that helps! Good Luck!
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Thanks a lot.Can you plz tell me one more thing if you know.As far as i understand, the conversion of J1 research to j1 clinical would only happen if i keep a continuity between them, if there's a break i.e. as the first visa ends the 2 yr HRR kicks in, is it? so suppose i get matched, will i need to make sure that this J1 keeps going till my residency starts i.e. till July 2016.And is there really any way of waiver in india?
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Two year rule usually doesn't apply to J1 research visa. If 2 year rule applies or not to your current J1 you can check on your DS-2019 and visa itself (they should contain this information). If it doesn't, you can apply to both, J1 clinical (which is always with 2 year requirement) or H1B once you matched!
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As far as I know, J1 research visa for an Indian national invariably comes with a 2 yr HRR. Also, Indian govt no longer gives a waiver, so once on J1 you can't apply for H1b, so J1 clinical would be the only option.

Don't worry about continuity, you can terminate J1 in March end after match results and apply for a fresh J1 clinical in May. The gap doesn't matter. Or another option is to continue on J1 research till June end and transfer to J1 clinical in July. But this takes a longer time.

Again, I haven't been through this yet, but I'm only telling you the experiences of people who have done this.

Good Luck!
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Thanks for explaining it marvelously.All that you said @DNA is exactly in line with the information on official websites if read carefully.Thanks for allaying my anxiety significantly.Best of luck
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Hi,

I am currently doing my J research and matched this year so getting converted to J clinical.
Unfortunately as J research you are subject to 2 HRR and it will kick in as soon as you quit that research job. (if you are from India the you will definitely be under 2 HRR- you can also take an advisory opinion regarding it or check your visa stamping - (not your DS 2019) regarding this.

Also Indian ministry has stopped giving waivers for J research( even if you do not have patient contact they still do not issue it as our background is MBBS)- I have tried applying for this and they sent me a rejection letter

So you have 2 option ONLY
1. Do 2 HRR then apply after 2 years- which is a not good.
2. Convert to J clinical.

- for this you have to HOLD your current J research status when Department of State is reviewing your application. Once they say YES then ECFMG will notify it to you.

Hope this helps.

All the best with the match
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Thanks Kavya. As per the yale's website what DNA has said appears to be true that the gap between the two visas would not matter as you can come on J1 again while you are subjected to 2 yr requirement, and the 2 yr requirement only starts when you try changing J1 to H1b/GC.The details do not say that it'd start at the end or termination of the J1 research program, though it'd obviously start after the TOTAL allowed time frame(as you can't take J1 then and for others you have to go via 2 yr HRR)

"J-1 visa holders are expected to complete their research, teaching or study objective within the time allowed on the J-1 visa. If your objective changes after you arrive in the US, you should know that the return-home requirement is enforced at the time that the J-1 Exchange Visitor or J-2 dependent requests an H-1B or L visa or U.S. Permanent Resident status. ....Exchange Visitors who are subject to the return requirement may return to the U.S. in other non-immigrant categories including but not limited to F-1 student, J exchange visitor, B visitor and the O-1 alien of extraordinaryability."

Kindly suggest if I'm understanding it correctly.Though what you suggest means we have to hold our research visa at the time of conversion.Can't it be that we apply for a J1 clinical again when we get residency?
My Visa status both on Ds2019 and the Visa stamped clearly say that I'm NOT subject to 2 yr HRR, but i know quite well by now as DNA said that J1 for India would invariably be subject to 2 yr HRR and the stamp is not necessarily a final say.Thanks

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I think you can ask for an advisory opinion and see if you have 2 HRR.

Also look at ECFMG for change of status for J category.

this paragraph does not say much about how can you get J exchange visitor after J research.

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Hi,

I am currently doing my J research and matched this year so getting converted to J clinical.
Unfortunately as J research you are subject to 2 HRR and it will kick in as soon as you quit that research job. (if you are from India the you will definitely be under 2 HRR- you can also take an advisory opinion regarding it or check your visa stamping - (not your DS 2019) regarding this.

Also Indian ministry has stopped giving waivers for J research( even if you do not have patient contact they still do not issue it as our background is MBBS)- I have tried applying for this and they sent me a rejection letter

So you have 2 option ONLY
1. Do 2 HRR then apply after 2 years- which is a not good.
2. Convert to J clinical.

- for this you have to HOLD your current J research status when Department of State is reviewing your application. Once they say YES then ECFMG will notify it to you.

Hope this helps.

All the best with the match
Hey Kavya,

What you have mentioned is regarding change of status from J1 research to J1 clinical, while in US. For people who terminate j1 research and come back to India, they simply apply for a new j1 clinical w/o 2 yr hrr kicking in.

Since you are going that way, could you clear some of my doubts-

1. Is it absolutely necessary to have a valid J1 visa till 31st June?? Does the stage of ECFMG approval come in May end/early June or does it happen only in June end? Do you need to be in US for the whole time?

2. I've heard this process takes a really long time, are you by any chance converting from j1 research to j1 clinical in the same hospital/university?

Much Thanks. and Good Luck
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Hi DNA10,

I am not sure about quitting J research and go back to India and then come again on J clinical- Sorry I have no idea about it.

1. Yes its absolutely necessary to hold your J research status while converting from j research to J clinical. As per EVSP they said that Dept of State usually reserves 60 days for its decision and they are pretty quick in letting ECFMG know about the decision. ECFMG usually takes 4-6 weeks to issue your DS-2019 (provided you have got your SON from India). As you can see there is no time frame where you can know your status its always better to hold your J research status till June 31st.
If you have to be in US or not it depends on the program- i am not sure of it.

2. I am converting from J research to J clinical. But different hospitals. Just make sure you have everything ready to submit to Dept of State as soon as you match and have your contract letter.

I am just writing what I know and what my friends who have done the same have told me.
There may be other options but I am not aware of it.
Hope this help.

Kavya

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Hi guys. Just wanted to clarify 1 question. How can J visa help in match by itself? Is J visa just a step in a way to receive research position or it can make you more desirable for PDs? Thank you)
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