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Hi guys. Could you be so kind to say a few words of criticism regarding my app.
Step 1 253
Step2CK 261
Step 2 CS pass all 1st attempt
Step 3 - pending (done recently)
YOG 2006
4 LORs - 3 US, 1 home, 2 months of observership in the U.S.
Several presentations worldwide, 1 oral report, 2 abstracts published
No gaps in clinical practice, work in interventional cardiology
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To summarize what you have provided:

Pros- fantastic USMLE scores, no attempts, 3 US LoRs, and lots of experiences
Cons- Year of graduation and no US clinical experience (USCE)

Fortunately, your USMLE scores are high enough to get medical programís attention, but your year of graduation and lack of USCE will be a challenge. Anyone who graduated more than 5 years ago faces the problem of being an older candidate. That time since you graduated until your application will be considered an educational gap.

You will have to address what you have been doing as a doctor in that time but also express how joining a US residency is important to your growth as a doctor. Candidates like you walk the line between being knowledgeable enough to contribute but flexible enough to learn and grow. You will have to be careful with the language you use to portray the right message of enthusiasm.

Since observerships rarely count as USCE, you should either try for some last minute USCE or be prepared to explain you are capable of adapting to a US medical environment.

Although you would face more challenges as an older candidate, your scores are excellent enough to be a real benefit. But, scores alone donít get you in. Make sure you strengthen each aspect of your application (LoRs, Personal Statement, MyERAS Application, etc).

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Thank you very much for such a detailed response
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Tnks olivia, i am IMG preparing for step 1, now in US. Pls how can i get USCE without being a resident?
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Tnks olivia, i am IMG preparing for step 1, now in US. Pls how can i get USCE without being a resident?
You will have to look up clerkship or externship opportunities here in the US. These aren't always easy to come by and often expensive, so start looking around as soon as you can. Also, be wary of observerships, they rarely count as USCE.

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I also need some application assessment and advise.
YOG 2013
Step 1 259
Step 2 250
CS 1st pass
Did 3 months of clerkship in 2014.
Permanent resident.
2 US Lors
Applying for internal medicine
2nd time applying
Applied last year in September without CS and ECFMG certificate.
I took CS in December 2014 ,got my result in mid February 2015 and received ECFMG certificate around the same time
Had applied to 40 programs, got 2 ivs but both of the programs wanted ECFMG certification by 1st February. So things didn't work out. Hence applying again this year with the hope that submitting a complete application and applying broadly will make a difference.
Need advise regarding the following queries
1- I have been preparing for step 3 and plan to give it soon. Would it be a big plus to have the result before September 15th ? Will it help to increase the number of interview invites ? Or Should I just hold back and take the exam later on, maybe in September/October, so that I have the result before the programs prepare ROLs (assuming I get some interviews without step 3)?
2- I was considering the option of applying to other specialties besides applying for internal medicine. Given the fact that IM is getting tough, would it be worth applying to other specialties, even though I won't have supporting clinical experience/LORs ?
3 How many IM programs should I aim to apply for? Does being a repeat applicant act as a major drawback/red flag?

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I also need some application assessment and advise.
YOG 2013
Step 1 259
Step 2 250
CS 1st pass
Did 3 months of clerkship in 2014.
Permanent resident.
Applying for internal medicine
2nd time applying
Applied in last year in September. I had CS in December 2014 ,got my result in mid February 2015 and received ECFMG certificate around the same time
Had applied to 40 programs, got 2 ivs but both of the programs wanted ECFMG certification by 1st February. So things didn't work out. Hence applying again this year with the hope that submitting a complete application and applying broadly will make a difference.
Need advise regarding the following queries
1- I have been preparing for step 3 and plan to give it soon. Would it be a big plus to have the result before September 15th ? Will it help to increase the number of interview invites ? Or Should I just hold back and take the exam later on, maybe in September/October, so that I have the result before the programs prepare ROLs (assuming I get some interviews without step 3)?
2- I was considering the option of applying to other specialties besides applying for internal medicine. Given the fact that IM is getting tough, would it be worth applying to other specialties, even though I won't have supporting clinical experience/LORs ?
3 How many IM programs should I aim to apply for? Does being a repeat applicant act as a major drawback/red flag?
Once again, here’s a summary for you:

Pros- recent YOG, excellent USMLE scores, USCE, no visa needed
Cons- No glaring cons that I can see

I can see why you might have faced problems in the past, but this year you have a much better shot at residency as long as you are willing to put in the work. Not having your ECFMG Certification and applying to programs that might have wanted it sooner was an error. Research programs very carefully to ensure you qualify before applying to them. Not only will you want to research programs, but you also need to apply to enough. We recommend at least 100 programs to be a competitive applicant.

If you pass the Step 3 it will be a very attractive aspect on your application. Programs like to see the Step 3 as it smooths the way for a successful residency (you wont have to worry about studying/possibly failing it later). If you decide to take the exam STUDY HARD and make sure you pass, a failing Step 3 will be very hurtful to your chances.

About multiples specialties, it’s usually good to apply to more than one specialty if you can support it:
Financially
With supporting documents

If you can’t get the documents or funds, you may want to focus on IM.

Finally, as I’ve said before, make sure your whole application is as strong as it can be. Specialty specific Personal Statements and LoRs and a complete/error free MyERAS Application.

You have nothing that could really hold you back so with the right amount of preparation you have a strong chance at Matching.

-Olivia
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I need some advice as well. I am applying for Neurology. How many programs should I apply to? (including prelim IM programs)

My stats:
Step 1- 239
Step 2 CK- 252
CS- 1st attempt
USCE- 12 weeks electives
LoRs- 5 US LoRs
No publications
Visa needed
YOG- 2015
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I need some advice as well. I am applying for Neurology. How many programs should I apply to? (including prelim IM programs)

My stats:
Step 1- 239
Step 2 CK- 252
CS- 1st attempt
USCE- 12 weeks electives
LoRs- 5 US LoRs
No publications
Visa needed
YOG- 2015
Is it me or are people doing better and better on their USMLE scores?

Pros- USMLE scores, large increase from Step 1 to Step 2, no attempts, US clinical experience, recent grad, and LoRs
Cons- Visa sponsorship, no publications

You have a very strong application profile from what I can tell. You have the scores to get you in the door, the LoRs to keep you there and youíre a recent graduate. However, all of these positives wonít secure you a Match.

Just a few words of caution.

Pay close attention to the programs you are interested in by making sure you meet their requirements with your qualifications. For example, youíll want to check they do J-1 Visa sponsorship. You donít want to waste time and money on programs you canít get into Also be prepared to apply to at least 100 programs (prelim or categorical).

Make sure you are selecting the right LoRs for the right programs. You wouldnít want a letter praising your FM skills going to an IM program (just for example). Your Personal Statement should be well crafted and full of our enthusiasm, play on the fact you are new and flexible. Your weakness will be the MyERAS Application, since you donít have a lot of experience, but if it has everything to offer and no errors, you should be fine.

Have everything ready by Sept. 15 and youíll have a very good chance at getting interviews.

-Olivia
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Oh...tnks so much Olivia
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Thanks a lot Olivia :blush: just one question. Doesn't ecfmg cover the J1 visa issue with its exchange visitor program? Or does the program need to sponsor it as well?
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Thanks for the analysis. I will definitely apply to more than 100 IM programs. Your words were very encouraging.

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Hi All ,

Please I also need assessment and advise.
YOG 2009
Step 1 220 ( didn't take it yet , but my worst case scenario is 220 below average )
Step 2 225
CS 1st pass
Did1 year residency in ACGME-I accredited program ( other than internal medicine ) .
previous experience in my home country ( other than Internal medicine ) with one year gap.
2 LOR from same program and 2 from home country .
No USCE .
No Visa
Applying for internal medicine
1st time applying

Applying in October , after I have my Step 1 results .
What are my chances in this year match ??
And is it advisable to apply on Sep 15 , or better wait my step 1 results ? what are pros and cons ?

Thank you in advance.
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Hi All ,

Please I also need assessment and advise.
YOG 2009
Step 1 220 ( didn't take it yet , but my worst case scenario is 220 below average )
Step 2 225
CS 1st pass
Did1 year residency in ACGME-I accredited program ( other than internal medicine ) .
Continuous previous experience in my home country ( other than Internal medicine ) with one year gap.
2 LOR from same program and 2 from home country .
No USCE .
No Visa
Applying for internal medicine
1st time applying

Applying in October , after I have my Step 1 results .
What are my chances in this year match ??
And is it advisable to apply on Sep 15 , or better wait my step 1 results ? what are pros and cons ?

Thank you in advance.
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I think that is very responsive score. Thank you so much for posting good score that appreciate me every-time. I love it.
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