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Ok, I know lots of you guys who matched are superexcited and many who didn't are super depressed. Congratlations to the first category, you deserved it so wish you a bright career ahead. Now for the second group. Improving the application and trying next year sounds like a real gamble considering that there are not a lot of options to improve. My nervous system is all messed up. It would be easier for me to take a longer and more expensive path than gamble again and mayby die of an early onset heart attack))) Really cant take this IMG match crap any more.

So I was thinking about going back to US school.

- Who has done it? Can you please share with me where to start and what steps you need to do to get in?

- Do IMGs need an undergrad degree first or you can apply to med school straight?

- If can go straight what exams do we need to take? MACD? Is it difficult compared to USMLE?

-> If someone has done it, please share every little step as detailed as possible. I would really appreciate your help. Thank you!


PS. People say its not worth it, choose an alternative career. But the problem is: when I found out that didn't match I imagined my life without medicine just for a second and I felt really empty. I just can't do anything else (((
d and many who didn't are super depressed. Congrat
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Ok, I know lots of you guys who matched are superexcited and many who didn't are super depressed. Congratlations to the first category, you deserved it so wish you a bright career ahead. Now for the second group. Improving the application and trying next year sounds like a real gamble considering that there are not a lot of options to improve. My nervous system is all messed up. It would be easier for me to take a longer and more expensive path than gamble again and mayby die of an early onset heart attack))) Really cant take this IMG match crap any more.

So I was thinking about going back to US school.

- Who has done it? Can you please share with me where to start and what steps you need to do to get in?

- Do IMGs need an undergrad degree first or you can apply to med school straight?

- If can go straight what exams do we need to take? MACD? Is it difficult compared to USMLE?

-> If someone has done it, please share every little step as detailed as possible. I would really appreciate your help. Thank you!


PS. People say its not worth it, choose an alternative career. But the problem is: when I found out that didn't match I imagined my life without medicine just for a second and I felt really empty. I just can't do anything else (((
d and many who didn't are super depressed. Congrat

Are you even going to try to SOAP? You should exhaust all options before doing this.


1) I think all US med schools require you to have an undergrad degree. There are some 6 year programs, but they are attached to an undergrad program. It's hard enough for a student from the US to get a position in medical school...
2) I don't know if you'll be allowed to retake your USMLE.
3) I'm pretty sure you'll have to take the MCAT. They just redid the whole test, and now there is a sociology component w/ psychology. It is not comparable at all to the USMLE, because it tests completely different things. I did HORRIBLE on the MCAT, and pretty well on the USMLEs.

Honestly, I don't think any US med school would let you try to apply as a first year. You already have your USMLEs done, and I don't know how they'd view that.

Sorry to hear that you didn't match, Hal. I remember reading your posts. I think you really need to take time to decide about this. Try to SOAP, and if that doesn't work, consider your options.
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Are you even going to try to SOAP? You should exhaust all options before doing this.


1) I think all US med schools require you to have an undergrad degree. There are some 6 year programs, but they are attached to an undergrad program. It's hard enough for a student from the US to get a position in medical school...
2) I don't know if you'll be allowed to retake your USMLE.
3) I'm pretty sure you'll have to take the MCAT. They just redid the whole test, and now there is a sociology component w/ psychology. It is not comparable at all to the USMLE, because it tests completely different things. I did HORRIBLE on the MCAT, and pretty well on the USMLEs.

Honestly, I don't think any US med school would let you try to apply as a first year. You already have your USMLEs done, and I don't know how they'd view that.

Sorry to hear that you didn't match, Hal. I remember reading your posts. I think you really need to take time to decide about this. Try to SOAP, and if that doesn't work, consider your options.

Seems like its doable but very long shot. Not worth it.

Thank you. I remember you encouraging me. I don't know how it was before but now even if you are great on the interview and your credentials are insufficient for them, you dont have a real chance. They will take someone with better numbers. I was so excited that I was shining with confidence and enthusiasm. And everyone seemed to love me but see the result. its a freaking numbers game. Even now I see tons of unfilled positions on SOAP yet no one is contacting me. They are fishing high numbers again. So disappointing (((((
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Ok, I know lots of you guys who matched are superexcited and many who didn't are super depressed. Congratlations to the first category, you deserved it so wish you a bright career ahead. Now for the second group. Improving the application and trying next year sounds like a real gamble considering that there are not a lot of options to improve. My nervous system is all messed up. It would be easier for me to take a longer and more expensive path than gamble again and mayby die of an early onset heart attack))) Really cant take this IMG match crap any more.

So I was thinking about going back to US school.

- Who has done it? Can you please share with me where to start and what steps you need to do to get in?

- Do IMGs need an undergrad degree first or you can apply to med school straight?

- If can go straight what exams do we need to take? MACD? Is it difficult compared to USMLE?

-> If someone has done it, please share every little step as detailed as possible. I would really appreciate your help. Thank you!


PS. People say its not worth it, choose an alternative career. But the problem is: when I found out that didn't match I imagined my life without medicine just for a second and I felt really empty. I just can't do anything else (((
d and many who didn't are super depressed. Congrat
So actually you do not need a US College degree, however what you do need is to take pre med courses at a college which include, Biology, Gen Chem, Organic Chem, and physics. these are the basic courses that med school require you to generally have done. Some schools have other specific courses that need completion and based on this they can gather what kind of competitive science GPA you would have. Then you need to take the MCAT which is nothing like the USMLE at all. Being an IMG, i think you will have an insanely hard time with this exam especially on the verbal section. If you are having trouble with reading and comprehension, you will be screwed for that part of the test. Then the next step is, once you have a competetive score with a nice science GPA you can apply to med school and that alone takes about a year. Then you do med school for 4 years and then residency. I would say this route is probably not the best idea for you because it would require at least a minimum of 2 years of pre-medical course work then the MCAT. So we are talking 2 years before applying to med school and even if you got in, thats another 4 years of med school and then residency
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So actually you do not need a US College degree, however what you do need is to take pre med courses at a college which include, Biology, Gen Chem, Organic Chem, and physics. these are the basic courses that med school require you to generally have done. Some schools have other specific courses that need completion and based on this they can gather what kind of competitive science GPA you would have. Then you need to take the MCAT which is nothing like the USMLE at all. Being an IMG, i think you will have an insanely hard time with this exam especially on the verbal section. If you are having trouble with reading and comprehension, you will be screwed for that part of the test. Then the next step is, once you have a competetive score with a nice science GPA you can apply to med school and that alone takes about a year. Then you do med school for 4 years and then residency. I would say this route is probably not the best idea for you because it would require at least a minimum of 2 years of pre-medical course work then the MCAT. So we are talking 2 years before applying to med school and even if you got in, thats another 4 years of med school and then residency

Dear God. This is a nightmare. Maybe if you are 22 you could do it. But for old farts not an option. Its too long, too stressful too. You'll get sick of everything pretty soon. Especially if the med schools don't accept you after you do everything.
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I am sorry to hear that you didn't match. Instead of attending US medical school, getting a master degree (in Public health) will be a shorter, acceptable and increase your chance of matching in the future. I have heard some people with MPH do better in the residency application than those who do not. Maybe, that is an option.
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I just saw here somewhere someone posting about their experience. This year was their THIRD year trying and they just matched!

Don't give up. Improve your CV the best way you can, and apply again this September!
It's all so recent, it must be hurting a lot, and I understand where you're coming from (being an IMG myself).
But let time do some healing, take some time off. And then, take a deep breath and go for it again.

Think about it.
Best of luck!
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