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Angry Last year's IMGs Fiasco was a Fake!

last year, many people here in forums warned us and in fact scared us that there will be no more IMGs to be accepted due to increased seats of AMGs blah blah..but this year, matching of IMGs remained almost same..so it means that was a bump..why people do such nonsense ?? may be to create sensation and panic to others.
that's ridiculous and disgusting.
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They meant subsequent years after 2013, when the new US med schools start c ranking out an additional 200 students/school x 10 schools. Now obv that figure isnt exactly precise but in a ballpark.
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so this year 2012-2013 would not be affected?
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so this year 2012-2013 would not be affected?
Its expected to start this year due to no pre-matches.
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please dont spread wrong and false rumours otherwise you will have to be answerable before GOD...read following article
No More IMGs in the Future; Is It True?
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please dont spread wrong and false rumours otherwise you will have to be answerable before GOD...read following article
No More IMGs in the Future; Is It True?
Um, the article that Sabio wrote depended on congress passing the 15K new residency bill. Which got shot down, and is being re-appealed. I doubt its going to be even sent to the senate anytime soon considering there's expected to be a SIGNIFICANT cut from medical spending.

The fact that there are almost 3000+ new AMG's expected to go for the match this year means limited to no spots for other graduates.

Its not wrong information, and its certainly not a rumor.

Sometimes, facts are bitter. I for one am certainly not happy because Im going for the match this year, but facts are facts.
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I have heard from so many people, they prefer Caribbean graduates over 99/99 from other countries. I asked couple of PD's they all say so, I think this year will be very hard for any one with no real hands on clinical experience, at least 9 or 12 month.
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The fact that there are almost 3000+ new AMG's expected to go for the match this year
What is the source of this information?

Also please comment about this here
IMG matching in 2012 remained the same

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What is the source of this information?

Also please comment about this here
IMG matching in 2012 remained the same

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There was an article published in the NEJM, I can't find the link right now, but will google it more and will post asap.
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There was an article published in the NEJM, I can't find the link right now, but will google it more and will post asap.
The problem is that I've been hearing this for over three years now, every year they say there will be over 3,000 or 5,000 new AMGs this year but that has never been substantiated in any match for the last three years according the published NRMP data.

I don't know maybe it will become a reality in 2013 but I think we should not speculate until it actually happens. I mean IMGs should keep trying their best until a that day comes and only then we can say "OK, no more space for IMGs and the hundreds of ECFMG employees should go home".

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http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee....html?page=all
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Default Long term match prospects

Check out this interesting paper from last year. It claims that over a seven year period (from 2003 to 2010) that IMG's match success rate was 75%. Some of it is a bit dense. The conclusion is that with persistence comes success (in the Residency Match, at least). A more uncertain conclusion is that IMG's will find it increasingly harder to find matches as US medical schools turn out more MD's. The latter assertion isn't really examined in detail, so it is sort of dubious.

http://www.step2match.com/Participat...U.S.%20GME.pdf

I originally saw it on Medscape.
Any thoughts, anyone?

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plz have a look on the amg coming out from us med schools...link..http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/201...1/prsc0522.htm
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Default Supply and Demand

The supply of Physicians is increasing because demand is increasing. The US already has a shortage, especially in Primary Care. The increasing supply of AMG's will may affect the number of IMG's matching, but no one is sure exactly how.

See this too:
IMG matching in 2012 remained the same
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I agree

....so what's the conclusion of this discussion.
I hope admins Sabio and others can shed more light on it
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The prospects of IMG matching in 2013 remains to be seen.
Right now, there's no firm indicator that there will be a drastic change in 2013 matching for IMGs.
I recommend that IMGs should continue to look for matching this year just as they have done in the prior decades.
Perhaps, higher scores, more USCE needed to get a match but the chances are still high of getting residency in USA.

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The fact that there are almost 3000+ new AMG's expected to go for the match this year means limited to no spots for other graduates.

Its not wrong information, and its certainly not a rumor.
So have you found that article yet?
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I agree Article

That article is in the link below:
http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee....html?page=all
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So have you found that article yet?
I thought you would have read the numerous posts by Hope490, and Amacrine. But evidently not...

Here are the articles:

http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee....html?page=all

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Meanwhile, more than two dozen medical schools have opened, begun accreditation or started discussions to open nationwide since 2007, which is the biggest surge in decades, according to the American Medical Association.
http://www.ama-assn.org/amednews/201...1/prsc0522.htm

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The nation’s allopathic medical schools are on track to increase enrollment by close to a 30% goal set by the Assn. of American Medical Colleges six years ago.

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I couldn't find any mention of "3000+ new AMGs" going for match this year

And the 30% thing that you have mentioned is the over all goal set in 2006 of increasing enrollment 30% by 2015 (using 2002-03 as the baseline.)

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The impetus to enroll more medical students is to increase the total number of physicians in the US, not replace IMG's with AMG's. If that's the goal, then the Federal govt. must fund more Residency spots.

The percentage of IMG's matching has remained more or less the same (+/- 3%) for the last five years. I don't think there is any reason to believe that there will be a dramatic change for 2013.

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The impetus to enroll more medical students is to increase the total number of physicians in the US, not replace IMG's with AMG's. If that's the goal, then the Federal govt. must fund more Residency spots.

The percentage of IMG's matching has remained more or less the same (+/- 3%) for the last five years. I don't think there is any reason to believe that there will be a dramatic change for 2013.

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...but for now residency slots have remained the same and the fear is the new graduates coming out this year ie 2012 will be preffered to IMG's.
Quoting from the link by Patel MD
"“I tell our graduates they are shiny new pennies who should cast a wide net. If they don’t get in, they need a backup plan, because in 2012, a crop of brand new, shinier pennies will be competing.”
Fear is atleast a bit genuine,because fesh grads are graduating this year from crops of new med schools opened in last few years.
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Let's tie this down to figures. Does anyone have any idea how many more US med. students will be graduating this year (and participating in the match) than graduated last year and participated in the match?

If we know the numbers, then we can figure out the impact.

Also, AMG's traditionally shun many fields in favor of careers with 'more manageable' lifestyles and better salaries. More AMG's may graduate but may eschew the fields of IM, FM, Pediatrics and Psychiatry. My guess is that those fields will still remain very friendly to IMG's.

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Please check attachment.
Source: Iglehart JK. The uncertain future of Medicare and graduate medical education. N Engl J Med. 2011;365:1340-5.
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i am a plain jane guy with poor step score..just hoping against hope that this year's match shows favourable results for the IMGs..otherwise things will be so difficult for many IMGs like me..keeping fingers crossed for this year's match
and of course thanks to everyone here for bringing the matter to notice..such a wealth of info given in xpabhisekh and patelMD's post..
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i am a plain jane guy with poor step score..just hoping against hope that this year's match shows favourable results for the IMGs..otherwise things will be so difficult for many IMGs like me..keeping fingers crossed for this year's match
and of course thanks to everyone here for bringing the matter to notice..such a wealth of info given in xpabhisekh and patelMD's post..
How many programs will you apply to and what specialities are you interested in?

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i just wanted to make a point that those who think that it will be impossible to match this year...will they not participate in it because its getting difficult?..i bet they will.Just speculating by citing articles when one can actually see the NRMP data is an unreasonable approach.Everyone should try their best and hope for the best.And please do not discourage others.
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