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I am sorry but i dont get this, does it mean we have to apply on sep 6 for all the programs?? I have a travel planned on 6th,thats why am anxious.
No. It means you can apply any day starting from September 6th. But the program's can only download your application from 15th. So applying on say 6th or 12th September is kinda the same thing as your application will not be available to the program's until 15th
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No. It means you can apply any day starting from September 6th. But the program's can only download your application from 15th. So applying on say 6th or 12th September is kinda the same thing as your application will not be available to the program's until 15th
Thank you so much, i figured that out, checked the eras guidelines. I need to ask few more things, sorry but had posted it earler but none replied-do we get the NRMP no and then apply or is it the other way round? And can i add a current experience to the application like an ongoing observation or a research that isnt over yet? Would be grateful if u can offer some insight over these.
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Thank you so much, i figured that out, checked the eras guidelines. I need to ask few more things, sorry but had posted it earler but none replied-do we get the NRMP no and then apply or is it the other way round? And can i add a current experience to the application like an ongoing observation or a research that isnt over yet? Would be grateful if u can offer some insight over these.
You don't have to be registered with NRMP to apply. NRMP registration starts from 15th.
Yes I think you can add a current experience but not exactly sure on how ERAS would allow you to add it in the work experience section. But I know that people have done it in the past.
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You don't have to be registered with NRMP to apply. NRMP registration starts from 15th.
Yes I think you can add a current experience but not exactly sure on how ERAS would allow you to add it in the work experience section. But I know that people have done it in the past.
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I have added a prev one under the work experience only and it did allow me, all it asked ws the position and dscription and the dates and sponsor, i wasnt sure about the current one and i guess the research should fit in there only or maybe in the accomplishments section.
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Applying for categorical IM and PSTP...anyone else applying for PSTP ?
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STEP 1: 246 / STEP 2 CK: 255 / PASS (1) / STEP 3: awaiting results / 3 US LORs / 2 months OBS at Top teaching hospital / 1 month USCE at Top teaching hospital / Need Visa / 2014 Grad.
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I am sorry but i dont get this, does it mean we have to apply on sep 6 for all the programs?? I have a travel planned on 6th,thats why am anxious.
Some programs are still receiving applications on NOV - HOWEVER- the sooner the better. We are IMG's = less desired candidates. Try not to make your chances even lower by applying later than other candidates.
You can read about the recommended timeline in the following link:
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I am interested in applying for IM and neurology programs in the upcoming Match. I am not sure whether it matters but i worked as a general physician for 2 years in government sector in my home country.

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I am interested in applying for IM and neurology programs in the upcoming Match. I am not sure whether it matters but i worked as a general physician for 2 years in government sector in my home country.
Any comments or suggestions regarding my chances to match are welcome and are highly appreciated.
It is very hard to estimate your “chances” as they depend on so many factors (especially how many programs you applied for). However, I recommend you to do your best to maximize them. 2 years gap from graduation can be a “red flag” so highlight in your personal statement and your ERAS application that you gained meaningful clinical experience. Your 2 US LoRs are very important, consider asking the letter writers to update them if they are too old dated. If you do phenomenal on you step 3 exam maybe it will be in your favor as you can prove that you are still very clinical and updated.
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guess I can officially join the party now. goodluck everybody may this be a blessed year for us all!
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What are my chances guys? I am applying to 100+ IM programs.

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What are my chances guys? I am applying to 100+ IM programs.

245/252/PASS/Pending/2014/GC holder/1.5 mo obs/1 accepted abstract/1 US LOR, 3 home LORs
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Your application overall looks good. The GC is going to really help you out as many IMGs may have your scores, but programs automatically consider people who do not need visas just coz it saves them so much paperwork.
( this was told to me by a PD at a program I did a sub-int in)

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You have scores around 250 and you are asking about your chances? Haha Come on man.
The only thing your profile might require (if anything at all) is 1 or 2 US LoRs as more competitive programs want lors from US physicians.
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Your application overall looks good. The GC is going to really help you out as many IMGs may have your scores, but programs automatically consider people who do not need visas just coz it saves them so much paperwork.
( this was told to me by a PD at a program I did a sub-int in)

All the best!
I understand. Thank you. I tried really hard to get some hands-on USCE but couldn't find one. Guess something is better than nothing with the observership.
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You have scores around 250 and you are asking about your chances? Haha Come on man.
The only thing your profile might require (if anything at all) is 1 or 2 US LoRs as more competitive programs want lors from US physicians.
I really understand what you are trying to say. I have heard those stories of high scorers not matching possibly down to lack of USCE, US LORs or bad interviews. I just have this observership I am doing right now to show and a US LOR from there. I don't want anything competitive man. Anything will do.
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Step 1: 222 (1st attempt)
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Dual citizen - UK & US but grew up in Birmingham, spent 3 summers in Maryland as a child/teen
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I really understand what you are trying to say. I have heard those stories of high scorers not matching possibly down to lack of USCE, US LORs or bad interviews. I just have this observership I am doing right now to show and a US LOR from there. I don't want anything competitive man. Anything will do.

one of the things that sometimes happens to high scorers imgs is that top programs don't call them...and mid tier programs don't think that the candidate is interested in them and is only using them as backup ...eg a high scorer guy gets rejected from Yale ...and does not get invited from medstar harbor because they think that this guy can't want to come here...as a result he gets very few ivs...happened to someone I know..
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I am sorry but i dont get this, does it mean we have to apply on sep 6 for all the programs?? I have a travel planned on 6th,thats why am anxious.
what this means is that from the 6th you can start assigning documents and applying to programs. however on sept 15th is when programs will actually access and download your applications. the reason for this is to prevent the ridiculous traffic that has occurred in previous years on sept 15th. imagine thousands of applicants all applying simultaneously online... the server gets jammed. so there is no issue if you are travelling on 6th, from 6th onwards you can start applying, you are neither at an advantage or disadvantage if you apply on a later day btw, its merely to prevent traffic.
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what this means is that from the 6th you can start assigning documents and applying to programs. however on sept 15th is when programs will actually access and download your applications. the reason for this is to prevent the ridiculous traffic that has occurred in previous years on sept 15th. imagine thousands of applicants all applying simultaneously online... the server gets jammed. so there is no issue if you are travelling on 6th, from 6th onwards you can start applying, you are neither at an advantage or disadvantage if you apply on a later day btw, its merely to prevent traffic.
Yes i figured that out, thanks for explaing though.
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I have a query about LOR, would be great if some1 would help, I have a LOR from my med school by the department chair but thats like 3 yr old and a very generic 1, I can get it updated and rather ask the author to write a more personal one but I am afraid that he is no more working at the med school, so he wont b having the med school letterhead but he will surely be having a prof letterhead from the place where he is working this time, should i go with the generic, old dated letter on my med school letterhead or a more personal, updated letter but ofcourse on a different letterhead, any advice??
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I have a query about LOR, would be great if some1 would help, I have a LOR from my med school by the department chair but thats like 3 yr old and a very generic 1, I can get it updated and rather ask the author to write a more personal one but I am afraid that he is no more working at the med school, so he wont b having the med school letterhead but he will surely be having a prof letterhead from the place where he is working this time, should i go with the generic, old dated letter on my med school letterhead or a more personal, updated letter but ofcourse on a different letterhead, any advice??
I would go with the updated personal one. Generic letters and letters beyond 2 years old are essentially worthless. Just ask him to mention that he got to know you while working in the medical school
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I would go with the updated personal one. Generic letters and letters beyond 2 years old are essentially worthless. Just ask him to mention that he got to know you while working in the medical school
Thanks, yes he will certainly write that and the previous position too, I was worried about the letterhead not being one from the med school, I hope that wont be some issue.
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Thanks, yes he will certainly write that and the previous position too, I was worried about the letterhead not being one from the med school, I hope that wont be some issue.
I don't think the different letterhead would mean anything. It might actually be seen in good light that you are still in touch with him and he remembers your performance. Only thing is some programs specifically state they need a letter from the department chair while most will be okay with a home LoR from a physician you worked with. Would probably take the generic letter from the current department chair as well and use it only for such programs.
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I don't think the different letterhead would mean anything. It might actually be seen in good light that you are still in touch with him and he remembers your performance. Only thing is some programs specifically state they need a letter from the department chair while most will be okay with a home LoR from a physician you worked with. Would probably take the generic letter from the current department chair as well and use it only for such programs.
Yeah I will need to figure that out, have no idea who the current one is and if I know him, my author was actually the department chair all through my med school and while generating the request form I did mention that and requested him to mention that in the letter too, dont know if i still would be requiring another one.
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one of the things that sometimes happens to high scorers imgs is that top programs don't call them...and mid tier programs don't think that the candidate is interested in them and is only using them as backup ...eg a high scorer guy gets rejected from Yale ...and does not get invited from medstar harbor because they think that this guy can't want to come here...as a result he gets very few ivs...happened to someone I know..
That's a different aspect you brought up here. Things are trickier than they seem with the application and interview chances. Your credentials are off the charts though. Good luck!
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Hi fellas.. Count me in for the race..

Step 1: 250
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I have a ques regarding the visa- I am planning to give Step 3 by dec, should i be mentioning both h1b n j1 in application or just mention a j1 requiremnt, I hope that while they filter the application and having a h1b wont hurt??
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I have a ques regarding the visa- I am planning to give Step 3 by dec, should i be mentioning both h1b n j1 in application or just mention a j1 requiremnt, I hope that while they filter the application and having a h1b wont hurt??
5 of the people I know who were done with step 3 were only sponsored J1 as 80-90% of the programs do only J1. Regardless best to mention both. It won't hurt your application.
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Hey guys
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Will my low step 1 score affect me for IM, should I just focus on family medicine? Applied years before with out green card, few IVs. Hopefully the green card makes a difference this year.
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I'm kinda confused if I should wait the year out and apply next year.
B/c I have no USCE yet, since I'm still studying for CK

Thanks for this thread, let's see how this goes.
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I'm kinda confused if I should wait the year out and apply next year.
B/c I have no USCE yet, since I'm still studying for CK

Thanks for this thread, let's see how this goes.
You'll need US letters regardless of the scores. I think it will be hard without USCE but that's my personal view
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Guys you think I have a shot at IM w a failure but 240 plus after that? 1 year USCE hands on? Most IM progs filter attempts ;(
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But by when do most programs need applicants to have finished the CK and be ECFMG-certified?
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But by when do most programs need applicants to have finished the CK and be ECFMG-certified?
Most places will want to see the ck score when you apply and ask that you are certified by rank order list (Feb 2017)
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I applied last year in few programs in IM based on 6 week observership in IM last year and I didnt match. Since November I have been involved in Research in surgery at state university and I have done poster presentation, gonna submit a study and continue to collect data in OR. I didnt get any good opportunity in IM. Now I am in a big confusion. My cv is going towards surgery and it is very tough to get a interview in surgery. If i apply in IM based on cv i have I am not sure i will get any interviews in IM either. I dont know what to do. I still continue to get opportunities in different departments of surgery for research and probably will get LORs from chiefs. Also If some one can tell me about IMG friendly programs in surgery I will appreciate.
BTW my scores are 233 in step1, 239 ck, step3 221
Hi I understand your confusion. From what I know, it is easier to find a research opportunity in Surgery as compared to Medicine. I am sure you have sent a lot of emails already and out in a lot of efforts to find positions on Medicine, so give yourself credit for that. You sound right about the mixed CV, but hey,it is some kind of research,better than no research. This famous doctor who accepted me for surgical research asked me why I was interested in it when I clearly mentioned I was into IM, I said I wanted to acquire research skills! He accepted that answer. Just remember that no application is perfect, your conviction is the most important factor IMHO. Meanwhile you can now look for IM positions, you have some experience in hand. Wish you the best of luck!
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Any IMG friendly lists anyone willing to share?
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I am looking for fellow applicants like me who are interested in making a program list by themselves. Its much easier to get together and make one.
Please let me know if anyone here is interested.
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passed all in first attempt
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any advice? family med or internal will have better chances for me?
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any advice? family med or internal will have better chances for me?
You have a good step 2 score and you're a fresh graduate. If you have some USCE in IM, I would say that you're a good candidate for IM.
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Has anyone tried to assign documents to programs? I am not being given an option to upload MSPE and transcript.
Is it the same for everyone else?
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Where do you mention that you intend to take step 3 during the interview season in the application? Is it advisable to apply to both cat and primary positions at the same program?
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Where do you mention that you intend to take step 3 during the interview season in the application? Is it advisable to apply to both cat and primary positions at the same program?
Don't think there is any place where you can put that you will be taking step 3 (other than personal statement of course). I think the step 3 topic will come up in interviews anyways.
Usually not a good idea to both at the same program as people talk. Your application may not be looked at favourably if the program realizes that.
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Don't think there is any place where you can put that you will be taking step 3 (other than personal statement of course). I think the step 3 topic will come up in interviews anyways.
Usually not a good idea to both at the same program as people talk. Your application may not be looked at favourably if the program realizes that.
Thanks, I meant the primary positions not the preliminary ones, read some progs advising to apply to both primary n cat-they just have a difference in the weeks spent in ambulatory settings , they might interview u fr one or both the position but u need to rank them seperately, not sure abt it though.
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hi , Can anyone please tell me what should I put for the graduate certificate program (it is like a 1 year diploma) I am doing in MyEras "Higher education" section? I mean should I put it as "Graduate" or "Other" in the heading?

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Thanks, I meant the primary positions not the preliminary ones, read some progs advising to apply to both primary n cat-they just have a difference in the weeks spent in ambulatory settings , they might interview u fr one or both the position but u need to rank them seperately, not sure abt it though.
I meant primary care as well. I don't know man, what I heard from previous applicants is its not a good idea to apply to 2 tracks in the same program
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I am an IMG and applying to IM only, I am not picky , just want to apply to more IMG friendly places.
I have some program lists created by my friends but how do I go about making my own.
I am applying to about 150+ programs, do you search for individual programs and read their requirements
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that is new information for me, do you think there is some reasoning to that ?
If I were a PD and someone applied to both tracks, I would be flattered, that the candidate likes my program ,so much so that he is keeping options open.

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that is new information for me, do you think there is some reasoning to that ?
If I were a PD and someone applied to both tracks, I would be flattered, that the candidate likes my program ,so much so that he is keeping options open.

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Lol. I think it's more cause of the goals of applicants. Primary care residency is essentially for people who see themselves as primary care physicians in the future, while categorical residency is for those interested in working as hospitalists or those who want to pursue a fellowship. Though, people from primary care residency go into fellowships, it might not be regarded very positively if you are aiming to get into a categorical program from the beginning and apply for primary care as back up at the same place.
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Hi. Can you explain more about what the program was exactly about? Was it part of your medical education or a requirement for your degree?
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I am sorry but i dont get this, does it mean we have to apply on sep 6 for all the programs?? I have a travel planned on 6th,thats why am anxious.
I just got off the phone with an ERAS representative.
I had the same question.
He said it does not make a difference as to when you apply between 6-15th September!
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I really love this strategy introduced by ERAS this year. Just love it!

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Pretty good... CK drop is a bit worrying. But if you apply broadly, you will surely come across programs that won't care that much. Otherwise, you have a decent package.
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I found this information on FREIDA really confusing..

Under the general information of a so called IMG friendly program,it says:


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Current ECFMG certificationYes
US citizenship No
US permanent resident No
J-1 visa Yes
H1-B visa Yes
F-1 visa No
Unrestricted state medical license for this state No

Does this mean that only applicants with J1 and H1B will apply to this program? In that case why would they not allow citizens and GC holders?

How could someone already have that visa unless they have a job already?
I am sure dependents have a different category like H4 etc

I am guessing that they mean they sponsor a J1 and H1B for their accepted candidates. Any alternate views?

Although it is odd that programs would put misleading information on FREIDA!

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I found this information on FREIDA really confusing..

Under the general information of a so called IMG friendly program,it says:


IMGs should have, among other qualifications, one or more of the following

Current ECFMG certificationYes
US citizenship No
US permanent resident No
J-1 visa Yes
H1-B visa Yes
F-1 visa No
Unrestricted state medical license for this state No

Does this mean that only applicants with J1 and H1B will apply to this program? In that case why would they not allow citizens and GC holders?

How could someone already have that visa unless they have a job already?
I am sure dependents have a different category like H4 etc

I am guessing that they mean they sponsor a J1 and H1B for their accepted candidates. Any alternate views?

Although it is odd that programs would put misleading information on FREIDA!

Please let me know your views.Thanks!

PS : Theor website is down and they dont answer phone calls or emails!
I agree with you. i have had it with such programs. I get that they are really busy but the least they can do is update their website or FREIDA/ERAS information when we are spending 26$ on them. I came across several programs who put that they do not sponsor J1 visa and when I asked them about it they said that they support J1 but don't sponsor it.
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I agree with you. i have had it with such programs. I get that they are really busy but the least they can do is update their website or FREIDA/ERAS information when we are spending 26$ on them. I came across several programs who put that they do not sponsor J1 visa and when I asked them about it they said that they support J1 but don't sponsor it.
Dont you think it is odd when they say they refuse Citizens and take J1 visa holders?
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Very odd indeed
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There are many posts on this forum regarding how people obtained their PTAL. It has some specific requirements like SSN, transcripts with n months of psychiatry rotation etc etc. I dont have mine but I did an extensive search once.
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I agree with you. i have had it with such programs. I get that they are really busy but the least they can do is update their website or FREIDA/ERAS information when we are spending 26$ on them. I came across several programs who put that they do not sponsor J1 visa and when I asked them about it they said that they support J1 but don't sponsor it.

US citizenship : No , means that US citizenship is not required...if they favored visa seekers > US citizens ,Trump would surely have noticed..

BTW freida website is useless...in many cases pds have not been updated for 10 years...
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Pretty good... CK drop is a bit worrying. But if you apply broadly, you will surely come across programs that won't care that much. Otherwise, you have a decent package.
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Somewhere around 120. I don't have any US-LOR's. So, I want to keep my options open.
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Somewhere around 120. I don't have any US-LOR's. So, I want to keep my options open.
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Does anyone know if pending green card application equals green card option when you select it on myERAS?
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you'll want to apply to more than 120 if you dont have any US lors and want to keep your options open. maybe some mid tier programs will overlook your lack of lors and there's tons of low to mid tier programs out there.
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you'll want to apply to more than 120 if you dont have any US lors and want to keep your options open. maybe some mid tier programs will overlook your lack of lors and there's tons of low to mid tier programs out three.
Agreed. Btw which one do you think is a better option? 4 US LoRs or 3 US LoRs plus 1 home LoR (I have found that very few state specifically that they need home LoR from department chair)
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Agreed. Btw which one do you think is a better option? 4 US LoRs or 3 US LoRs plus 1 home LoR (I have found that very few state specifically that they need home LoR from department chair)

I am planning to go 3+1 .. logic...most programs only consider 3 LORs in any case...to be honest they only read 1 or 2...around 15% progs need home chief LOR.if i don't have the home chief LOR the application would automatically get filtered in those progs as incomplete..it would be a pain in the ass to sort out those programs and assign 3+1 to those..and 4 US won't be a came changer v/s 3+1..i mean that certainly wont' be the deciding factor for interview invites...I decided to be 3+1 for all cases for the sake of simplicity...my home LOR is waived too..
one of my US-LORs is likely to be quite generic as it is from an observership...i ll probably not alot that...my home LOR provides information that the generic one certainly cannot...
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I am planning to go 3+1 .. logic...most programs only consider 3 LORs in any case...to be honest they only read 1 or 2...around 15% progs need home chief LOR.if i don't have the home chief LOR the application would automatically get filtered in those progs as incomplete..it would be a pain in the ass to sort out those programs and assign 3+1 to those..and 4 US won't be a came changer v/s 3+1..i mean that certainly wont' be the deciding factor for interview invites...I decided to be 3+1 for all cases for the sake of simplicity...my home LOR is waived too..
one of my US-LORs is likely to be quite generic as it is from an observership...i ll probably not alot that...my home LOR provides information that the generic one certainly cannot...
Seems like a good plan. But I have a very generic unwaived home LoR which is essentially full of grammatical errors and quite honestly useless. All my US LoRs are waived and I know that they are very strong letters. I am having a tough time deciding what to do.
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you'll want to apply to more than 120 if you dont have any US lors and want to keep your options open. maybe some mid tier programs will overlook your lack of lors and there's tons of low to mid tier programs out there.

if he focussed on mid tier+lower mid tier than he can manage with 120... I know 2 people with similar profiles applying to 150 progs last year...one chap got 25 ivs ..other chap got 5...the 5 iv chap thought it would be good to donate more money towards ivy league univ progs...the 25 iv chap applied mainly to solid mid tier progs...none had any usce...
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I'm not going for ivy programs or anything of that sort. Mid-tier prog is all I want. And I won't be disappointed with a lower mid tier program as well. Currently, I have saved around 135 programs. Looking to cut down further 10-15 if that's possible. But, I may end up not doing so...

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I am an IMG from europe and have done two years of internal medicine in my home country, published 3 papers and hhave done 4 months of electives in North america. Now my step 1 was 229, cs pass on first attempt. I will be writing Ck in end of september and get my score oct 19th. Will there be a huge decrease in the amount of interviews i will get because my CK score will be pending? I will apply to IM only.

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if he focussed on mid tier+lower mid tier than he can manage with 120... I know 2 people with similar profiles applying to 150 progs last year...one chap got 25 ivs ..other chap got 5...the 5 iv chap thought it would be good to donate more money towards ivy league univ progs...the 25 iv chap applied mainly to solid mid tier progs...none had any usce...
in light of no financial constraints, I dont see any reason to limit yourself to 120 when you can send out another 15-20 applications and probably get more interviews.
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Seems like a good plan. But I have a very generic unwaived home LoR which is essentially full of grammatical errors and quite honestly useless. All my US LoRs are waived and I know that they are very strong letters. I am having a tough time deciding what to do.
in your case, I would use your US letters for all programs except the ones that need home medicine chairman. i wouldnt want a PD who thinks I'm a decent candidate read a letter from outside America which has grammatical mistakes and doesn't really say anything of consequence ruin my shot at a quality program.
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in light of no financial constraints, I dont see any reason to limit yourself to 120 when you can send out another 15-20 applications and probably get more interviews.
120 was my initial target (based on last year's applicants from my school with similar profile). But yeah, the more the better as long as I fulfill the program's criteria. And maybe I should follow your suggestion as I am having a hard time cutting down my current list of 135ish...
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Can you guys guide me about description in work exp? I mean how you are describing like home country residency things. I mean how long should be the description? If I describe my all clinical exp in 3-4 lines my CV is around 5 pages. Thank you guys.
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Same situation CK exam to be taken at the end of this month... 238 step 1 CS pass, 2 months OBS YOG 2014... Any advice about applying this year guys? I mean I'm determined to apply on the 15th but any suggestions with places? and how bad will be to apply without the CK score on time?

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Same situation CK exam to be taken at the end of this month... 238 step 1 CS pass, 2 months OBS YOG 2014... Any advice about applying this year guys? I mean I'm determined to apply on the 15th but any suggestions with places? and how bad will be to apply without the CK score on time?

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I don't think its a good idea to apply without a ck score. Most programs need ck score for IMGs and your application will be filtered out if you apply without ck. It would dramatically decrease the number of interviews you would get. That is my personal opinion. Good luck.
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I came across this statement in a residency program information:
All of our positions will be offered outside the match.

Does this mean that all positions will be filled via pre-match
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I came across this statement in a residency program information:
All of our positions will be offered outside the match.

Does this mean that all positions will be filled via pre-match
Yes, exactly. (St. Barnabas, NY?)
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I don't think the spreadsheet is working. Maybe we should copy paste credentials like last years thread?
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I don't think the spreadsheet is working. Maybe we should copy paste credentials like last years thread?
Yes... I think so... The problem with spreadsheet is that if someone accidentally edits or deletes some info, then it becomes very difficult to restore it to the previous state... The previous year's scheme was good.
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Npktun - 256/262/passed(1)/2016/need Visa/ 3 months USCE/ 1 Pub
Medstud. - 245/255/pass/2016/GC/2 months USCE
GORDO - 247/225/PASS/NO STEP 3/2011 with continues clinical experience /Need J1 or H1/1m USCE 2016/ 3PUB
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did a copy/paste of people who had a signature in this thread. those who used the spreadsheet, did not have their credentials as a signature or new posts, kindly update your credentials to the post. also include if you require visa as a few people above missed that
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Yes, exactly. (St. Barnabas, NY?)
I think so, not sure cos I have been looking at many programs since a couple days.
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It might be too late to ask this ..heheh but I would really like to understand- what preliminary positions are for?
Is it only for people who want to go for neuro etc...
Do those interested in IM only also take up prelim positions as an alternative (~backup) to Cat positions?
What happens when I choose prelim & Cat in the same program, what could possibly be going on in their mind?

I would really appreciate some information on this
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From your experience, how long it really takes ERAS to approve waived letter of recommendation and make it available to the programs?
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For me it was 1-2 business days for all waived lors.
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Lot of posts about chances of getting into residency here. Guys, there is no point asking these questions. I realize that you want to get a fair idea about your chances but the fact of the matter is nobody can really answer that question. Spend time building on your application. I guess you would know which part/parts of the application would need more work. Apply and leave the rest to God/fate. Good luck
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Yes same , 1-2 days. One letter was uploaded on thursday and it took 1.5 days to be available in the system.
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It might be too late to ask this ..heheh but I would really like to understand- what preliminary positions are for?
Is it only for people who want to go for neuro etc...
Do those interested in IM only also take up prelim positions as an alternative (~backup) to Cat positions?
What happens when I choose prelim & Cat in the same program, what could possibly be going on in their mind?

I would really appreciate some information on this
.........Please?
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It might be too late to ask this ..heheh but I would really like to understand- what preliminary positions are for?
Is it only for people who want to go for neuro etc...
Do those interested in IM only also take up prelim positions as an alternative (~backup) to Cat positions?
What happens when I choose prelim & Cat in the same program, what could possibly be going on in their mind?

I would really appreciate some information on this
Preliminary year is usually the 1st year of residency before moving on to other advanced specialities like Opthalmology, dermatology, etc. Preliminary residency in general is a lot tougher to get into compared to categorical residency. Also if you manage to get a prelim spot its a lot tricky to get into pgy-2 spot after completing the prelim year so you might have to apply for a categorical position again and do the intern year all over again. Again, from what I have heard its not a good idea to apply to prelim and cat tracks as you will be interviewed by the same folks usually. Unless you are planning to get into advanced specialities or just want to do a prelim year for getting usce or getting an idea of the system, it might not be in your best interests to apply for prelim as a back up.
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Preliminary year is usually the 1st year of residency before moving on to other advanced specialities like Opthalmology, dermatology, etc. Preliminary residency in general is a lot tougher to get into compared to categorical residency. Also if you manage to get a prelim spot its a lot tricky to get into pgy-2 spot after completing the prelim year so you might have to apply for a categorical position again and do the intern year all over again. Again, from what I have heard its not a good idea to apply to prelim and cat tracks as you will be interviewed by the same folks usually. Unless you are planning to get into advanced specialities or just want to do a prelim year for getting usce or getting an idea of the system, it might not be in your best interests to apply for prelim as a back up.
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Hello. I am applying for IM categorical.
IMG European
Yog October 2011
Step 1 250 first attempt
Step 2ck 250 first attempt
Step 2cs pass first attempt
Residency in my home country in Family medicine (completed on December 2015).
Work experience as a locum physician for more than 1 year/some research experience in my home country
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USCE:1 week of clinical observership in a top university. 2 weeks in a community hospital. 5 weeks in a top university. Total 2 months of usce experience
LOR 2 home letters (one from directors/chiefs) +3 us lors (2 from professors of a top US university)
What about my chances to match in IM categorial in a good university program?
I am currently enrolled in a second residency program in my country (neurology) but I am going to start it on november 2016. Should I apply also for IM/neurology preliminary?
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Hello. I am applying for IM categorical.
IMG European
Yog October 2011
Step 1 250 first attempt
Step 2ck 250 first attempt
Step 2cs pass first attempt
Residency in my home country in Family medicine (completed on December 2015).
Work experience as a locum physician for more than 1 year/some research experience in my home country
3 abracts
USCE:1 week of clinical observership in a top university. 2 weeks in a community hospital. 5 weeks in a top university. Total 2 months of usce experience
LOR 2 home letters (one from directors/chiefs) +3 us lors (2 from professors of a top US university)
What about my chances to match in IM categorial in a good university program?
I am currently enrolled in a second residency program in my country (neurology) but I am going to start it on november 2016. Should I apply also for IM/neurology preliminary?
Need Visa
Thanks in advance.

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