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Question Can I apply to two different specialties; IM and Surgery?

Can an applicant apply to like surgery and IM, I mean 2 widely divergent specialties and will it be an issue.
I guess this may have been addressed somewhere else but I cant find it.

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You can apply to IM and Surgery at the same time but the issue here is that what will be your CV looking?
Are you going to do IM or Surgery USCE, LoRs, Work Experiences,..etc

If you are going to answer: I will do both, then am going to tell you, don't do that, because if you are not focused on one goal and put all your efforts into it then you most likely won't succeed in the match.

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i am suffering from the same dilemma
but since surgery is relatively more competitive, applying only to surgery is a gamble in itself
so i guess u have to take chances :S
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You can apply to IM and Surgery at the same time but the issue here is that what will be your CV looking?
Are you going to do IM or Surgery USCE, LoRs, Work Experiences,..etc

If you are going to answer: I will do both, then am going to tell you, don't do that, because if you are not focused on one goal and put all your efforts into it then you most likely won't succeed in the match.

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thanks sabio for your speedy reply
i was thinking to get 'one size fits all' LORs
Is it true the pds can find out if a person applies to more than one specialty, i heard they can.
my second question was the feasibilty of matching surgery without USCE or research as an img. dont even mind preliminary, from my research very many AMGs are getting prelim for surgery so an img shouldn't really be hoping for categorical.
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thanks sabio for your speedy reply
i was thinking to get 'one size fits all' LORs
Is it true the pds can find out if a person applies to more than one specialty, i heard they can.
my second question was the feasibilty of matching surgery without USCE or research as an img. dont even mind preliminary, from my research very many AMGs are getting prelim for surgery so an img shouldn't really be hoping for categorical.
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Again. If your approach is general and not specific and having non-specific LoRs, your chances are much less than other thousands of focused and determined applicants.
PDs cannot know if you have applied to other specialties. The only exception is if you apply to the same hospital for two specialties in that hospital then in that case there's a slight chance (1%) they know.
As for surgery, I know people matched in categorical surgery who are IMGs and did not have USCE. On the other hand, I know AMGs with great score who could not make it! So there's no rule. Many many factors go into the equation and you cannot predict based on one or two or even a bunch of factors.

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thanks sabio for your speedy reply
i was thinking to get 'one size fits all' LORs
Is it true the pds can find out if a person applies to more than one specialty, i heard they can.
my second question was the feasibilty of matching surgery without USCE or research as an img. dont even mind preliminary, from my research very many AMGs are getting prelim for surgery so an img shouldn't really be hoping for categorical.
thanks
IMG's get into about 40% of the places in IM, but only 20% in Surgery - and that is all IMG's, including US citizens + green carders. So, my guess is that an IMG would have to have something pretty outstanding to get Surgery. Pretty outstanding means more than just having a very good score on the USMLE Steps.

In general, I think that any IMG, who has the odds stacked against them from the start, must have a very focused plan if they hope to make a Residency match.

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