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Resident IMG Requirements for a perfect match!

Can some one tell us What is the best things of IMG require ment to get a Perfect MATCHED ??
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Perfect matched, if you mean match to your dream program, then you need the following:
1- high scores, traditionally double if not triple 99
2- at least one US LOR and one strong Home-based LOR from a faculty who knows your real clinical skills and interaction manners
3- US LOR better to be taken from a faculty in a residency program and it will be better if from a university program (although not generally necessary)
4- write a real personal statement reflecting yourself, in your own words and expressions. PDs can easily know when interviewing you if this PS is yours or if somebody else wrote it for you.
5- Don't risk by applying only to dream programs, you need to keep the backdoors opened, no!! APPLY WIDELY and to more than one specialty.

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Thanks a lot for the response and the question actually! This is what i wanted to know as well.

It would be nice if some more people give their feedback on this question though.
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ApplicantGuide has covered most of it. My only addition is to item 5. Decide specialty you want to apply and make sure your changes are higher in that specialty. Ex: Specialties like dermatology & emergency medicine are very popular among US citizens, your probabilities of matching here are lesser until you have exceptional results in all items listed by ApplicantGuide.

Which year are you looking to match? 2010 Match might be a little late for you if you haven't taken your USMLE yet.
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Default chances of getting interviews without CS result and USCE?

What are the chances of getting interviews if someone applies without CS result and none USCE at the time of 1st Sept?

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Perfect matched, if you mean match to your dream program, then you need the following:
1- high scores, traditionally double if not triple 99
2- at least one US LOR and one strong Home-based LOR from a faculty who knows your real clinical skills and interaction manners
3- US LOR better to be taken from a faculty in a residency program and it will be better if from a university program (although not generally necessary)
4- write a real personal statement reflecting yourself, in your own words and expressions. PDs can easily know when interviewing you if this PS is yours or if somebody else wrote it for you.
5- Don't risk by applying only to dream programs, you need to keep the backdoors opened, no!! APPLY WIDELY and to more than one specialty.

Goodluck
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"1- high scores, traditionally double if not triple 99"? You mean that anyone not possessing 99's is doomed???
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5- Don't risk by applying only to dream programs, you need to keep the backdoors opened, no!! APPLY WIDELY and to more than one specialty.

Goodluck
Wouldn't it be a negative for one to apply to more than one specialty? In other words, wouldn't the program directors see such an applicant as confused and unsettled? Looks to me like pursuing two birds and catching none. Please elucidate.
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PDs are trying to make a risk-free selections for match, especially that last year many of them were giving prematches for competitive applicants. If your scores are very high and you are a fresh graduate you may still get few interviews without CS and USCE inparticular if you applied on Sept 1st. But I don't advice you to take this risk and delay your CS because if you , God forbid, failed CS during the match, you will have been lost then all the applications and registration fees (including interviews and travels) you paid for match which in low average may reach 10000$. Try to take CS before the match to avoid applying purposely to a costy match.

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I was answering a very specific question asked by silakan_isi:
"BEST" & "PERFECTLY MATCHED"
these criteria I mentioned has nothing to do with the regular match or applicants, we are speaking here about those who are planning for a riskless match game. I know many people with low 80s scores and no USCE got matched, although most of them have no visa requirements.
Double 99 is not a requirement and nobody will be doomed, but for a decent number of interviews and PERFECTLY matched you need them.

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PDs will never know that you are applying to different specialties, WHY?

1-on the ERAS system you can assign each specialty a different personal statement and even you can assign each program a different PS, ie you can upload from your computer to your MyEras account as many as PSs you want, and the PD will see only one PS.

2-You can send to ECFMG/ERAS as many LORs as you want in many specialties, however the PDs will only see the max 4 LOs you will assign to them through your eras account. ie they don't have access to your other LORs.

3-You will not tell the PDs during the IVs that you are applying to other specialties.

4-You will be taking safety measures, ie Don't apply to different specialties in the same hospital.

Goodluck everybody
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Default Chances of IMGs getting residency in scramble?

ok if i will apply for scramble then is it impossible to get residency or chances are very low? I ve heard that scramble is useless for IMGs ?

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PDs are trying to make a risk-free selections for match, especially that last year many of them were giving prematches for competitive applicants. If your scores are very high and you are a fresh graduate you may still get few interviews without CS and USCE inparticular if you applied on Sept 1st. But I don't advice you to take this risk and delay your CS because if you , God forbid, failed CS during the match, you will have been lost then all the applications and registration fees (including interviews and travels) you paid for match which in low average may reach 10000$. Try to take CS before the match to avoid applying purposely to a costy match.

@ath.pantelis
I was answering a very specific question asked by silakan_isi:
"BEST" & "PERFECTLY MATCHED"
these criteria I mentioned has nothing to do with the regular match or applicants, we are speaking here about those who are planning for a riskless match game. I know many people with low 80s scores and no USCE got matched, although most of them have no visa requirements.
Double 99 is not a requirement and nobody will be doomed, but for a decent number of interviews and PERFECTLY matched you need them.

@Neutrophil
PDs will never know that you are applying to different specialties, WHY?

1-on the ERAS system you can assign each specialty a different personal statement and even you can assign each program a different PS, ie you can upload from your computer to your MyEras account as many as PSs you want, and the PD will see only one PS.

2-You can send to ECFMG/ERAS as many LORs as you want in many specialties, however the PDs will only see the max 4 LOs you will assign to them through your eras account. ie they don't have access to your other LORs.

3-You will not tell the PDs during the IVs that you are applying to other specialties.

4-You will be taking safety measures, ie Don't apply to different specialties in the same hospital.

Goodluck everybody
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ok if i will apply for scramble then is it impossible to get residency or chances are very low? I ve heard that scramble is useless for IMGs ?
If you don't have contacts in the programs it will be difficult, but you may relatively more easier find a prelim surgery position, the scramble list of which is present on my blogspot. These programs usually takes IMGs thru scramble. I hope you will get matched PERFECTLY thru the regular match.
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Oh ApplicantGuide you are so helpful. I have a strange story.
I want to do electives next year but tell now I did not decide which specialty is suitable for me...I think I have to make 1 month in internal medicine & 1 month in surgery, It would be better than 2 months in a one specialty,wouldn't it?
By the way, I have U.S citizenship so I do not need visa sponsoring programs.

I heard that Program directors will not be interested in me when they find that I did two different electives.
I am scared that they will know that from CV or LORs...
Could you tell me how I will put my electives in ERAS or ECFMG to avoid that?
(Could you tell me how is the normal way to send them to ECFMG or ERAS?)
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Oh ApplicantGuide you are so helpful. I have a strange story.
I want to do electives next year but tell now I did not decide which specialty is suitable for me...I think I have to make 1 month in internal medicine & 1 month in surgery, It would be better than 2 months in a one specialty,wouldn't it?
By the way, I have U.S citizenship so I do not need visa sponsoring programs.

I heard that Program directors will not be interested in me when they find that I did two different electives.
I am scared that they will know that from CV or LORs...
Could you tell me how I will put my electives in ERAS or ECFMG to avoid that?
(Could you tell me how is the normal way to send them to ECFMG or ERAS?)
Thanks
US cit is definitely a big plus but it is not the only determinant. Actually it may give you advantage over other applicants in IM, FM, Neurology, Pathology and maybe Pediatrics but not in Surgery. Usually surgery PDs may be meticulous in choosing the future surgeons, you need high scores (I don't know your scores).
The usual answer which applicants give during interviews when asked why you did different observerships (although this is rare) is THIS WHAT WAS AVAILABLE FOR ME, I DIDN'T FIND OTHER OBSERVERSHIPS. and usually the PDs will not argue with you, they will just take it as is.
You don't have to send the info about observerships to ECFMG or eras but you have to fill the info in the corresponding areas of the MyEras CAF application. This will happen later when you register (buy eras token from oasis by the end of June and register to ERAS on July 1st) then you will have access to your MyEras account and you will fill all your data there and when you apply thru this system to residency programs it will automatically send your CV.
Regarding LORs and PS, you will send LORs and upload PS(s) to ERAS as much as you want BUT each PD will see only those you assign to them, ie IM will see IM and surgery will see surgery according to what you assign to them (you can assign maximum of 1 PS and 4 LORs to each program).

So when you write the IM PS don't mention your surgery experience and vise versa.

Goodluck
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