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Default Fresh IMG with only MBBS but interested in USMLE. Advice!

I'm a graduate of Nigerian medical school from Nigeria. I want to do my residency in neurosurgery or general surgery in the US. No clinical electives, no research and publications, nothing except my MBBS. Please what steps do I need take to achieve this? I'm 30yrs, is it too late to go USMLE path?
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Wow, you're ambitious! Neurosurgery is one of the most competitive positions you can wish for in the US. Surgery is not as competitive but is very hard too. Trying to get a residency position in the US is a full-time commitment, and it can take years. If you really want to, you should start right away. You'll need contacts to secure a research position in a US hospital, and work your way up. You are going to need major publications, presentations, and posters. You're also going to need stellar USMLE scores. For me (i took USMLEs 1 year after graduating from med school) Step 1 took about 7 months of full-time studying, Step 2 took 1 month and 1/2 and CS 2 weeks.

Take all those things into consideration and if you're still up for it, GOOD LUCK!! I hope you achieve all your goals!
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Wow, you're ambitious! Neurosurgery is one of the most competitive positions you can wish for in the US. Surgery is not as competitive but is very hard too. Trying to get a residency position in the US is a full-time commitment, and it can take years. If you really want to, you should start right away. You'll need contacts to secure a research position in a US hospital, and work your way up. You are going to need major publications, presentations, and posters. You're also going to need stellar USMLE scores. For me (i took USMLEs 1 year after graduating from med school) Step 1 took about 7 months of full-time studying, Step 2 took 1 month and 1/2 and CS 2 weeks.

Take all those things into consideration and if you're still up for it, GOOD LUCK!! I hope you achieve all your goals!
Thanks a great deal Marisu. I'm fully aware of the fiercest competition ahead which calls for a good back up plan. However, I would like to know if 1 year or 2 into good research is enough for one to get major publications, good presentations and posters. As to the exam, I perceive that preparing for it while embarking on research will be difficult. I may be wrong but I can't say if I should settle to study for the exam only when I'm done with research. A little more clarification please.
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Thanks a great deal Marisu. I'm fully aware of the fiercest competition ahead which calls for a good back up plan. However, I would like to know if 1 year or 2 into good research is enough for one to get major publications, good presentations and posters. As to the exam, I perceive that preparing for it while embarking on research will be difficult. I may be wrong but I can't say if I should settle to study for the exam only when I'm done with research. A little more clarification please.
Sure. I agree you shouldn't do them both at the same time. I would take the exams first since a lot of research positions require you to be ECFMG certified. Regarding how much time of research could be enough.. it can vary a LOT from person to person. The guy that I know had to work in voluntary research for four years before achieving a position, so be prepared!
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I knew an IMG with slightly less than mean or maybe median USMLE scores who matched to upper- Mid tier IM program after 2 years of research. No idea about his previous USCE.

So, at the very least for Neurosurgery, you would need stellar USMLE scores with 2+ years of research + some USCE.

I find it odd because aren't you pretty much away from clinical practice for a long time for research, and where its improving your CV in one way, its bringing it down in the other? (Although the IM guy I knew was doing great)
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