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Passport J1 visa vs Green Card

I wanted to know if there are any meaningful data on percentage of IMGs matched with GC vs IMGs on J1/H1? I have looked at websites of dozens of programs and almost all of them say that they accept qualified applicants with J1 visa sponsored by ECFMG. They have IMGs in their program, but it is hard to tell if they have a GC or are on J1 visa.

I was talking to a doctor I know who did her residency about 10 years ago. She told me that when she applied without GC, she received 3 interviews and when she tried the next time with GC, she received 16 interviews. I think she also managed to get externship or observership in the mean time, so I don't want to draw far reaching conclusions from her experience.

However, I am curious about the significance of having a GC for IMGs. Any statistical data on this aspect?
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I don't have solid reference or statistical data about this. But I know for a fact that Program directors would certainly prefer a Green Card holder over someone applying for J1 visa.

The reason is that they don't want to go through the hassle of J1 Visa processing and that sometimes J1 visa takes time to process and the resident might join late.

So if all the other factors are similar (such as scores, USCE, YOG, LoR, Interview performance, ...etc) then one applicant is J1 and the other is GC, they would certainly pick the GC applicant.

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This is a very interesting question. First of all, an IMG may be a US citizen, born and raised here in the US. The NRMP does break up Match data into US and non-US IMG's and gives figures for both, by Specialty and by State.

The difference between 3 interviews and 16 is really large. But we don't have enough information to really account for the difference. Did your informant apply for more Residencies the second time around? Did she target a better selection of Residencies? Or even different specialties? This will obviously affect the number of interviews likely to be offered. Her USCE in the intervening time may have also made a critical difference.

All that being said, if you look at the Program Director's Survey from 2010, you will see that visa status is viewed as a somewhat important factor in selecting candidates for interview.

Judging from the questions asked on this forum, it seems to me that many aspiring Residents are quite unprepared for the complications of the matching process, never mind being prepared for professional life in the US. It takes the non-US IMG time to adjust, so going through one or two match seasons may bring vital insights into the process.

A paper I read recently seem to bear this out. It suggested that a good number of IMG's took many years to find Residencies. But they succeeded in the end. With the prospect of greater competition from an increased output of US Med. grads. in the future this may no longer be the case. But I really don't know.

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Does having a green card put you in the us-IMG group? Or you will be in the non us-IMG group? I am asking the question becasue looking at NRMP data, I don't know which group shows the better data for GC holders?
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Does having a green card put you in the us-IMG group? Or you will be in the non us-IMG group? I am asking the question becasue looking at NRMP data, I don't know which group shows the better data for GC holders?
Green Card holders go into the non-US IMG group.

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Green Card holders go into the non-US IMG group.

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Doesn't make much sense, because both are entitled to the same privileges, besides voting in federal elections, or other miscellaneous things that have no affect on residency. So how do they differentiate the two? And does differentiating the two even have a meaning?
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Doesn't make much sense, because both are entitled to the same privileges, besides voting in federal elections, or other miscellaneous things that have no affect on residency. So how do they differentiate the two? And does differentiating the two even have a meaning?
Generally, green card holder's can't vote in any elections in the U.S. As regards Residency, there is no particular advantage or disadvantage in holding a green card as opposed to being a citizen. The disadvantage MAY come when the applicant requires a visa.

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