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Hello everyone,
I am an IMG who graduated last year. I just recieved my step 1 score : 203.
I am very disheartnened since I had scored 240/600 on uwsa and 222 on nbme 7. The real test was tougher than UW n nbme. I knew after the test that I would not get a good score but was not expecting below 210.
I wanted to apply for radiology but obviously that has gone down the drain.
I have done 1 elective and 6 months research at mass general hospital, boston in IR ( 3 publications, 1 poster presentation and contributed in Harvards imaging atlas) and 2 pretty strong LORs.
I want to ask, with this score where do I stand ? Should I give up my dream of doing residency in the US ? any advice/opinion would be greatly appreciated. Thank you ...
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im not sure man, but currently i think its kinda hard. you got pretty good stuff behind your back but that score is way low for radio, Amg scores for radio residents ave 250s up, who knows even more. if you got 250+ in step2 ck & increase your radio electives, i think you could still make it.
i got good practice scores too, but in reality ended up ave score.
just give it evrything you got on ck, coz you already have nice credentials (except the score). Good luck man.
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Thank you everyone for the advice. I know it is pretty late but I came across my post and never got the chance to update my situation. I applied for IM and Rads in Sept 2013 and ended up getting 5 IVs in Rads/none in IM. I matched into a Radiology Residency program in march 2014. I am currently completing an internship/prelim year in surgery. I guess my stars were aligned, that I ended up matching with below average scores. CS pass, Step 1-203, Step 2-199 (1st attempt for all). Thanks to you guys for giving me hope when I was down after my Step 1 result. Cheers
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Thank you everyone for the advice. I know it is pretty late but I came across my post and never got the chance to update my situation. I applied for IM and Rads in Sept 2013 and ended up getting 5 IVs in Rads/none in IM. I matched into a Radiology Residency program in march 2014. I am currently completing an internship/prelim year in surgery. I guess my stars were aligned, that I ended up matching with below average scores. CS pass, Step 1-203, Step 2-199 (1st attempt for all). Thanks to you guys for giving me hope when I was down after my Step 1 result. Cheers
May I ask if you need visa?
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Yes. I am currently on a J1 visa.
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Yes. I am currently on a J1 visa.
Just to be honest with you (and no offence), I'm quite surprised that you were able to match with grades under 220 in both steps, without being a US citizen or having a G.C. Did you have very strong LORs, a lot of USCE?
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None taken, I was surprised too. I had 4 waived LORs but I guess the strongest aspect of my CV was the 1.5 years of research experience. Before applying in Sept 2013, I had quite a few first author original articles/lit reviews and oral/poster presentations at RSNA/ARRS/SIR etc
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None taken, I was surprised too. I had 4 waived LORs but I guess the strongest aspect of my CV was the 1.5 years of research experience. Before applying in Sept 2013, I had quite a few first author original articles/lit reviews and oral/poster presentations at RSNA/ARRS/SIR etc
Thank you for your reply, I thought that research experience can never be considered as a "strong part" of an application, everybody has always told me that only "hands on" USCE counts as "strong" (not even observerships).
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For Diagnostic Radiology, I would say research exp with publishing articles in reputed journals/presenting at conferences does make a difference. Of course preference is given to high usmle scores and strong LORs like applying for any other specialty.
You are correct, electives count more than observerships, but getting a strong/waived LOR from them is more important. But again, that is just my theory.
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I am glad that you updated about your matching.
Though I am a good student but I got a very low step1 score and an attempt at CS. The resaon being I tried to do everything on my own without doing a lot of research about the steps and their importance. I am an IMG and I am a practicing physician in my country and I do feel my credentials dont match my calibre but for matching all they look at is scores.
I am trying to do the best now, hoping to get interviews from community hospitals. Dont have enough money to do research, yet trying to make contacts and trying to cover up for the 2 redflags on my cv.
Sometimes emotinally overwhelmed i feel may Be I m not destined to be in the USA???
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This is impressive , what you think I need to have a spot in general surgery with score like yours may little bit butter ??
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Hello,Im also an IMG, I got a step 1 score of 203 as well. My dream is to enter radiology. Can you please share your story with me? Please give me hope.. I have not started rotations yet since I am very depressed to start 3rd year.. Please tell me there is hope if i do better on step 2.. Can I please please hear from you??


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Thank you everyone for the advice. I know it is pretty late but I came across my post and never got the chance to update my situation. I applied for IM and Rads in Sept 2013 and ended up getting 5 IVs in Rads/none in IM. I matched into a Radiology Residency program in march 2014. I am currently completing an internship/prelim year in surgery. I guess my stars were aligned, that I ended up matching with below average scores. CS pass, Step 1-203, Step 2-199 (1st attempt for all). Thanks to you guys for giving me hope when I was down after my Step 1 result. Cheers
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What country are you studying in? Are you American?

Are you more looking for hope, or looking for an honest opinion?

There is good news and bad news. The bad news is your step score. The good news is there are ways to redeem yourself. A high Step 2 CK will not eliminate your Step 1 score, but it will tell the programs "I learned from my mistakes, and look at what I am capable of!".

Why do you think you scored a 203? Learn from why you underperformed, and put that towards a high CK score. Learn from your mistakes and rock the CK.
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Hello everyone,
I am an IMG who graduated last year. I just recieved my step 1 score : 203.
I am very disheartnened since I had scored 240/600 on uwsa and 222 on nbme 7. The real test was tougher than UW n nbme. I knew after the test that I would not get a good score but was not expecting below 210.
I wanted to apply for radiology but obviously that has gone down the drain.
I have done 1 elective and 6 months research at mass general hospital, boston in IR ( 3 publications, 1 poster presentation and contributed in Harvards imaging atlas) and 2 pretty strong LORs.
I want to ask, with this score where do I stand ? Should I give up my dream of doing residency in the US ? any advice/opinion would be greatly appreciated. Thank you ...
Don't take the step 2 test until your scoring above 240 on practice tests on a regular bases
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Don't take the step 2 test until your scoring above 240 on practice tests on a regular bases
Unfortunately that won't work well. The NBME, even UWSA are not very reliable for Step 2 like they were for Step 1. It's a very rough gauge. I scored 15-20 points higher on my Step 2 than I did on NBME or UWSA, thankfully, but it doesn't always work out that way.
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Unfortunately that won't work well. The NBME, even UWSA are not very reliable for Step 2 like they were for Step 1. It's a very rough gauge. I scored 15-20 points higher on my Step 2 than I did on NBME or UWSA, thankfully, but it doesn't always work out that way.
If you got a 203 then I'd just quit.
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I agree with a few of the above comments.

It really is going to be an uphill battle regarding a residency spot in Radiology. However it isn't impossible. I really think focusing on STEP 2 CK and CS is probably the most important thing to do right now. I also agree, your goal is to have STEP 2 CK score > 240. I'm not sure where you are based, however I would really start looking into radiology research. Getting your name on a case presentation or anything in the radiology world is a plus. Also try to start rounding/volunteering with Radiologist for LoR later on.

I think that's where I would start.

I hope that helps,
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Party pooper. Your gona be a horrible doctor...

PATIENT: Doctor, i have cancer, what do i do?

You: Good news, i can now assist you with medications that may shorten your life span.


Id rather get a 203, become a successful and liked doctor, than get your score and be forced to walk in your office.Good luck with your career. Remember, program directors dont only look at scores. UNFORTUNATELY for you, personality and interview skills are required.
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Seriously ? Give the guy a break he matched he got in the system. Stop being jealous you do it with your 250s... I admire this guy hazaa my leigue hazaa!

I have talked to soooo many sooooo many ignorant dbags on these forums parading around cocky I'd rather this guy gets residency then them which he did.
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My comment was for you?
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I'm scared

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What about you harami
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