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Last year I applied to a lot of university programs, but I didn't get any interviews from them. The only difference this year for me is that I'll apply with Step 3 results. Do you think I should apply to university programs again? or will it be a waste of money?

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how come you did not match last year with these scores?
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how come you did not match last year with these scores?
It may sound strange, but if you search over the internet you will find many similar cases. High scores do not guarantee a match.

But let's get back to our main topic here.
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well I think psych programs are making considerable effort to 'filter out' applicants like you, who are only using psych as backup but have no affinity for it. sorry to say this, but I think they are right, psych is a specialty you will not be able to (and should not) do without commitment and genuine interest in that patient population.
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well I think psych programs are making considerable effort to 'filter out' applicants like you, who are only using psych as backup but have no affinity for it. sorry to say this, but I think they are right, psych is a specialty you will not be able to (and should not) do without commitment and genuine interest in that patient population.
I forgot to say that I do have an interest in psychiatry. In fact, I did really well in it on the USMLEs and I do find it interesting. It's not that I hate or anything. It's just that I find IM more interesting, so that's why it's my main target.

You say that they would know that I'm applying to psychiatry just as a backup. So you're implying that if I have no relevant experience in the field, I'll simply be marked as that? If not, how would they get the notion that I'm not really interested in it?
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well, in that case you will have to do everything to prove your affinity to PDs. They are implying you only use it as backup simply because many applicants do..if you had any related history or LOR, it would be easier for you to convince them. but a separate personalized statement is something you should definitely write.
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well, in that case you will have to do everything to prove your affinity to PDs. They are implying you only use it as backup simply because many applicants do..if you had any related history or LOR, it would be easier for you to convince them. but a separate personalized statement is something you should definitely write.
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But hey! We still missed the point of this thread, which is: applying to university programs! I think we both got this mixed up with my other thread about psychiatry!

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Last year I applied to a lot of university programs, but I didn't get any interviews from them. The only difference this year for me is that I'll apply with Step 3 results. Do you think I should apply to university programs again? or will it be a waste of money?

I have high scores in the USMLEs (both 99s, all first attempt).

Last time i checked, 99 wasn't a score. Its an old scale, which has no value in the match process. Its useless as PDs can't compare applicants based on this scale. About a year ago, both 230 and 270 was a 99, one is an average score, while the other one is extra-ordinary
what are your actual scores, YOG and other credentials?
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You need major USCE for psych if you have not done a psych residency in your home country.

270/270 wont get you psych but a 190/196 with USCE gets you interviews and maybe even a match if you could speak with no accent and know the lingo of the American culture
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I do want to advice anyone who's considering using "backup" specialties.

IM and Psych (in this particular example), are really different from one another. Truth of the matter is, even if you get matched in psych, you might not be happy with it. Essentially, you've take a spot from someone who REALLY REALLY wanted psych (#1 choice). Now if you were in their position, and someone took your IM spot (in this particular example), than you'd be pissed!

I'm not criticizing haisook, but a 3rd person opinion reveals the above.

Applying to FM as backup for IM can make sense, because you can do very similiar things (except specializing), but you're still taking away the FM position from someone who "wanted" it more than you, while you reapply for IM the year after.
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