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I guess its important to set a target score when ur studying...my question is
Should we aim for the mean score of amgs who matched in that specialty for steps 1 and 2 ck?(as noted in the charting outcomes in match 2011) I guess this is everyone's question. Any reply is appreciated
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no. don't aim for amg scores. even if they get only 195, they wud still be preferred over a 250 img.

for imgs, aim 240 +/-10...
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for all specialties? What about peds?
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for all specialties? What about peds?
no. that's usually for IM.
peds & FM is 220 +/-10. surg 260 +/-10.
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no. that's usually for IM.
peds & FM is 220 +/-10. surg 260 +/-10.
This is nonsense and complete bs. The vast majority of IMGs who match into IM had scores less than 240...much less.
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This is nonsense and complete bs. The vast majority of IMGs who match into IM had scores less than 240...much less.
before you negate others comment, i suggest you think & analyze man.

add1 is asking for a target score, not for average scores of IMGs who matched. of course, it is much lower than 240. i am trying to help add1 by suggesting a decent score to target. why would i let someone aim for a lower score & let him/her have a hard time matching bcoz i suggested a lower target score. i answered 240 bcoz it's a good target score for IMG and doesn't exactly mean she has to get 240. every review material: kaplan, DIT and uworld tells IMG should target that to be competitive.

your a doctor, act and think like one dude.
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no. that's usually for IM.
peds & FM is 220 +/-10. surg 260 +/-10.
Hey Dr.JPRizal..man you are awesome..a rockstar..you came in late but you are so helpful and full of infoi mean am a fan of you..So according to you 210-230 is the score range for IMGS targetting peds..well is it for GC holders or normal visa needing IMGs??...am asking this because a year back a senior i know matched in peds in Nassau with 204 score in Step 1 and 226 in Step 2...well this match its really getting difficult...i know a senior with 229/239 and has just 6 ivs so far...am a bit scared..myself with 213 and 6 months back a senior in IM residency told me to go for peds with this score as it will be a so-so score for peds only...now with this match i am feeling doubly insecure..dont know if peds is safe or should try something like Psy(which of course i don't like that much)..so an honest opinion from you...
P.S:Am a prefinal year student with final year remaining to do electives in USA and am need of visa...will apply for 2015 Match.will plan accordingly..
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before you negate others comment, i suggest you think & analyze man.

add1 is asking for a target score, not for average scores of IMGs who matched. of course, it is much lower than 240. i am trying to help add1 by suggesting a decent score to target. why would i let someone aim for a lower score & let him/her have a hard time matching bcoz i suggested a lower target score. i answered 240 bcoz it's a good target score for IMG and doesn't exactly mean she has to get 240. every review material: kaplan, DIT and uworld tells IMG should target that to be competitive.

your a doctor, act and think like one dude.
Fine, if you want to talk "ideal" scores for an IMG, then consider that the latest average for the CK was a 237 for all test takers. Thus, I would say an IMG should ideally aim for a 250-260 and not a 240.
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For Ck ofcourse, since 240 is just above average but for step 1 its great. It's all about the national average guys lol
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I think it is specialty specific. Every specialty has its own score requirements.
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Hey Dr.JPRizal..man you are awesome..a rockstar..you came in late but you are so helpful and full of infoi mean am a fan of you..So according to you 210-230 is the score range for IMGS targetting peds..well is it for GC holders or normal visa needing IMGs??...am asking this because a year back a senior i know matched in peds in Nassau with 204 score in Step 1 and 226 in Step 2...well this match its really getting difficult...i know a senior with 229/239 and has just 6 ivs so far...am a bit scared..myself with 213 and 6 months back a senior in IM residency told me to go for peds with this score as it will be a so-so score for peds only...now with this match i am feeling doubly insecure..dont know if peds is safe or should try something like Psy(which of course i don't like that much)..so an honest opinion from you...
P.S:Am a prefinal year student with final year remaining to do electives in USA and am need of visa...will apply for 2015 Match.will plan accordingly..
in reality, those who matched to peds are actually lower, as low as 200. that's last year's trend/match accdg to my img friend(IMGs need visa).. my score is 208/215, so i too was told by him coz he has PGY1 seniors(both needing visas), that my scores fit well for peds based on his senior's results. then he added, do a 4-6mos hands-on rotation in peds and it will make it easier to get peds. yes these scores are so-so but (aside from visa) USCE is also a factor. doing a lot of rotations (plus acquiring good LORs) in the specialty you like is also an impt factor. its good that you are doing US electives, that's the heaviest wt among usce. and most of all, there's a few hidden factors that most IMGs fail to include (eg. politics), scores are just tip of the ice berg.

MD2.0: those scores i mentioned are just safe target's, i didn't say you hit it bull's eye. if you surpass it, the better. if hit it, your average. if your below it, at least your not that low as it is. (i got this from kaplan's live course & just shared it). what is there to argue about? geez..
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So thank you for shedding some light on pollitics issue....Will take it into account from now..and man best of luck for your ivs and wish you match at your#1 place
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in reality, those who matched to peds are actually lower, as low as 200. that's last year's trend/match accdg to my img friend(IMGs need visa).. my score is 208/215, so i too was told by him coz he has PGY1 seniors(both needing visas), that my scores fit well for peds based on his senior's results. then he added, do a 4-6mos hands-on rotation in peds and it will make it easier to get peds. yes these scores are so-so but (aside from visa) USCE is also a factor. doing a lot of rotations (plus acquiring good LORs) in the specialty you like is also an impt factor. its good that you are doing US electives, that's the heaviest wt among usce. and most of all, there's a few hidden factors that most IMGs fail to include (eg. politics), scores are just tip of the ice berg.

MD2.0: those scores i mentioned are just safe target's, i didn't say you hit it bull's eye. if you surpass it, the better. if hit it, your average. if your below it, at least your not that low as it is. (i got this from kaplan's live course & just shared it). what is there to argue about? geez..
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Hi I am an IMG graduated in 2004, My USML step 1 was 231. Is it good for IM. Thanks!!!!
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Hi I am an IMG graduated in 2004, My USML step 1 was 231. Is it good for IM. Thanks!!!!
I want to say yes. However, I'm sure everyone will agree with me when I say that is just one facet of the whole application (CK, CS, USCE, LOR, YOG. etc.). I guess a more definitive answer would be to tell you that I do know of people that matched in IM with a similar score.
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