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Hi!
I got my step 1 score yesterday, 223/82. Although this was not my goal and even near the goal, I'm pretty happy finishing with step 1 Here is my wonder - what do you think, is it possible to get general surgery (or any other surgery) residency with this score?
* Assuming that step 2 score will be on high edge + 1st attempt CS pass.

I just want to organize my future plans and narrow my possible choices. According to First Aid (NRMP) it's the average score in general surgery. But I have no idea about what's going on in reality.
If anybody share his/her thoughts, I'll appreciate it.
Wish you all the best!
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If you need visa, as an IMG, great scores alone wont get you a surgery IV. So you definitely need to get US surgery exp, and get US surgery LORs.

For example in current cycle, IMG (fam member), US citizen, step 1<220, step 2>220, 3yrs USCE and 5 US surgery LORs plus, US surgery contacts and multiple US research pubs has 5 IVs so far

while another person we know, IMG, non USC, step 1>240, step 2>240, 2 yrs USCE, 4 US surgery LORs, no US research pubs has 2 IVs so far.
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Thank you a lot, docs! Your posts were very helpful for me to figure out what is needed to get in surgery. I think it is an issue of smart choices and persistence.

Lena, but I have a question about USCE and YOG. For instance, if you do USCE 2 years, obviously, it takes your 2 years from your YOG (and in my case, it equals 4-5 years) Does the pro compensate for con?
And, is it possible to get several (2-3) LORs during 1 observership/externship?
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Thank you a lot, docs! Your posts were very helpful for me to figure out what is needed to get in surgery. I think it is an issue of smart choices and persistence.

Lena, but I have a question about USCE and YOG. For instance, if you do USCE 2 years, obviously, it takes your 2 years from your YOG (and in my case, it equals 4-5 years) Does the pro compensate for con?
And, is it possible to get several (2-3) LORs during 1 observership/externship?
When I state USCE, I mean useful surgical USCE, usually clinical research with someone that is influential. In that case, yes it is worth it, because off the bat, surgery isnt easy to get, even for a fresh IMG grad, unless you are a Carib grad.
So for both ppl I posted above, yea it took away from their YOG, but they
For surgery, I dont think a 1mth observership/externship is the way to go, one will definitely need more than that. For surgery its not just getting LORs, but having big time surgeons who will make calls for you.

Now on the other hand if your step 1 score was a 260+, I'd say go ahead regardless for GS.
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