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First of all congratulations to everyone who matched this year!!!

I am an FMG from India.. graduated in 2010. I applied from neurosurgery and prelim gen surg match this year... this was my first attempt for residency... my first intention was not to come to the us for residency and so it took me an extra year to apply... i got 2 interviews for ns.. but i didnot match anywhere.. had no luck in SOAP either!!

scores: 195/205/cs passed all first attempt
did 7months observership at UIC... now doing another one at cook county hosp..
got 2 US LORS and 1 from US certified doc n 2 from indian docs..
got 3 publications and working on another one now..
green card holder..

as my scores are on the low side i have been trying to get some good clinical experince as suggested but some residents i ve met (who r also FMGs), and i came to know about the paid externships just a couple of weeks back and i wanna know how good my chances would be if i do them...
I feel like i m not doing this the right way!!
hoping to get some information regarding USCE and also about what specialities would be wise for me to try out for...
I would appreciate it very much if anyone can please advice me on how to proceed forward..

thank you...
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Can u please tell me how did u get observership at UIC and cook county.? coz on their website they state that they do not offer observerships.

Plz reply..thanks
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my father was at UIC as a fellow so he put in a word me.. n at cook country we have to contact the volunteer services about doing an volunteer/obeserver work... this stuff aren't really posted on the website... email the residenct coordinators or call them using the contact info in the website and ask them about observerships.. and if anyone u know works some where then u can ask them to put a word in for u.. that will work most of the time... hope this info was helpful!!!
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Thank you sooo ,much..i will try to contact directly..i Wish ALMIGHTY GOD helps me..

Thanks a ton for replying
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you are welcome!!!
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From what you have shared it appears that you are an American IMG/FMG, with a gap after graduation, low scores, and no US hands-on clinical experience or related LORs from US physicians.

What you may not know is that due to your US residency immigration status, many residency programs may be holding you to the same standards as US Medical Graduates because you have greater access to training in the US when compared to a traditional IMF/FMG with a visitors visa.

You have done extensive research and observerships which are beneficial to NS and GS applicants (read below). However, as a IMG/FMG with US residency you have access to two types of residency relevant hands-on training/ experience in the US which are ranked higher by most residency programs as their selection criteria:

1.) Physician supervised insured hands-on clinical rotations
2.) Work experience (salaried) in the US healthcare field that is residency relevant


Visit our website to learn how we ca help you obtain both. http://advancedcolleges.us/programs-and-approvals

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"Despite student perceptions that research in medical school is an essential ingredient for a successful application to residency, our findings indicate that research experience ranks low among selection criteria when all specialties are grouped together. The NRMP also found that research experience in medical school did not differ significantly among U.S. seniors who matched in their specialties of choice and those who did not.1 This was consistent across competitive and noncompetitive specialties. It should be noted, however, that in our survey, program directors in particularly competitive specialties (radiation oncology, plastic surgery, neurosurgery, and dermatology) ranked research experience highly (Table 3). It may be that when all other selection criteria are outstanding among applicants to a particular specialty, research experience or research publications may help discriminate candidates."

Reference: http://journals.lww.com/academicmedi...s_of_a.24.aspx
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Hye Iam a IMG i will appear for my ck in september ending . Can i apply for the 2014 match?
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Hye Iam a IMG i will appear for my ck in september ending . Can i apply for the 2014 match?
Yes u can... ERAS requires that u complete step 1 as a criteria for applying for residency.. so u can complete ck n cs even while the residency match process is going on!!
hope this was helpful..
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From what you have shared it appears that you are an American IMG/FMG, with a gap after graduation, low scores, and no US hands-on clinical experience or related LORs from US physicians.

What you may not know is that due to your US residency immigration status, many residency programs may be holding you to the same standards as US Medical Graduates because you have greater access to training in the US when compared to a traditional IMF/FMG with a visitors visa.

You have done extensive research and observerships which are beneficial to NS and GS applicants (read below). However, as a IMG/FMG with US residency you have access to two types of residency relevant hands-on training/ experience in the US which are ranked higher by most residency programs as their selection criteria:

1.) Physician supervised insured hands-on clinical rotations
2.) Work experience (salaried) in the US healthcare field that is residency relevant


Visit our website to learn how we ca help you obtain both. http://advancedcolleges.us/programs-and-approvals

Contact me for a free evaluation.


Best - Victor



"Despite student perceptions that research in medical school is an essential ingredient for a successful application to residency, our findings indicate that research experience ranks low among selection criteria when all specialties are grouped together. The NRMP also found that research experience in medical school did not differ significantly among U.S. seniors who matched in their specialties of choice and those who did not.1 This was consistent across competitive and noncompetitive specialties. It should be noted, however, that in our survey, program directors in particularly competitive specialties (radiation oncology, plastic surgery, neurosurgery, and dermatology) ranked research experience highly (Table 3). It may be that when all other selection criteria are outstanding among applicants to a particular specialty, research experience or research publications may help discriminate candidates."

Reference: http://journals.lww.com/academicmedi...s_of_a.24.aspx
Hello Victor,

Thank you very much for the information. I have gone through the weblink you sent me and there was quite a lot of information to read.

You said that as a US resident i have 2 options for hands on clinical experince. the physician supervised insured hands on experience is something i have heard about.. but the other one, work experience (salaried) in the US health care field that is residency releveant, is new to me.. I tried to find specific information relevant to that in your wesbite but i could not. Could you please give me more information regarding that?
and also with my credentials, what are my chances of getting into a surgical specialty provided i do some externships??

Thank you very much for your time. I appreciate your help.

Siddharth.
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Hye Iam a IMG i will appear for my ck in september ending . Can i apply for the 2014 match?
One more thing i forgot to mention before... even though you can apply to ERAS with just step 1 score make sure you complete ck n cs by the time the interviews start.. coz getting ur ECFMG certification by then will help you a lot with your interviews...
good luck!!
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Hello Victor,

Than you very much for the information. I had gone through the weblink that you sent me and there was quite a lot of information to go through.

you said as a US resident IMG, i have 2 options for securing hand on experience in the US. the first one, physician supervised insured hands on experience is something i have heard of before. but the other one, work experince (salaried) in the US health care field that is residency relevant, that is something i have not heard bout before. I could not find information specific to that in your website. Could you please give me more inforamtion regarding that? And also with my credentials, what are my chances of getting into a surgical specialty provided i do some externships?

Thank you again for your time. I appreciate your help very much.

Siddharth
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Hi Dr. Siddhart,

Thank you for replying. I will do my best to answer your questions on this thread but would greatly appreciate it if you would contact me to better explain.

In the last 5 years we have noticed a large increase of AMGs/FMGs having residency relevant work experience and utilizing it as part of their ERAS application and to obtain LORs from US Attending Physicians. Some of the most popular forms of work experience are PA, RN, LVN, and Advanced Medical Assisting. These positions are residency relevant because of the clinical skills that are practiced.

All of the programs listed above are excellent. However, most programs reserve their hands-on clinical rotations until all the required courses are completed. Our MST and MRT programs are designed to help medical students and graduates complete hands-on clinical experience while completing the courses. And job placement assistance for CAMA positions

The Experience Tab section of an ERAS application recommends for applicants to "(Include clinical and teaching experience as work experiences; include all unpaid extra-curricular activities and committees you have served on as volunteer experiences)."
https://www.aamc.org/download/139512/data/worksheet.pdf


ACAs Medical Specialty Track Program and Medical Residency Track Program are designed to help medical students and graduates that qualify obtain:

1.) 3-5 individual Physician supervised hands-on clinical externship rotations.
2.) Assistance with securing 3-5 Performance Based LORs and Clinical Evaluations.
3.) 8-10 Online courses related to the US Healthcare System and Advanced Medical
Assisting.
4.) Diploma in Advanced Medical Assisting.
5.) AMA NCCT certification examination training manual.
*6.) SALARIED job placement assistance as a Certified Advanced Medical Assistant (F1 with work permit and H1 visa minimum requirement).
7.) CV, Personal Statement, and ERAS application review.
8.) Residency Mock Interview preparation.


The clinical externships rotations completed as part of the MST or MRT program fall under work experience.

The clinical skills practiced in a salaried position as a Certified Advanced Medical Assistant are considered to be residency relevant and fall under work experience.

From our experience, having a well balanced combination of externship/work experience, related LORs/Clinical Evaluations, and professionally revised CV, Personal Statement and ERAS Application highlighting all US hands-on clinical experience helps an applicant distinguish themselves from the competition.


Hopefully, this was a clear enough explanation. Im sure you will have questions. Contact me at your earliest convenience.


Best - Victor
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Yes u can... ERAS requires that u complete step 1 as a criteria for applying for residency.. so u can complete ck n cs even while the residency match process is going on!!
hope this was helpful..
good luck!!!
Thank you soooooo much
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Yes u can... ERAS requires that u complete step 1 as a criteria for applying for residency.. so u can complete ck n cs even while the residency match process is going on!!
hope this was helpful..
good luck!!!
thanks a lot...i didnt know this...so i can apply alsoi passed step 1 did cs but no score result yet...in july will take ck...so i have a chance for 2014.....
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thanks a lot...i didnt know this...so i can apply alsoi passed step 1 did cs but no score result yet...in july will take ck...so i have a chance for 2014.....
Hey,

Yeah since u already completed step1 and cs and gonna complete ck in july.. u will get ur scores in the next 3 weeks and the certification in 2 weeks after that.. so everything is gonna be done by the time u have to apply!!!
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