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Hello everyone,

The match begins Sept 1st the yr before and the residency begins in July the year after
So when u apply Sept the 1st let's say 2013 and u graduated in June/july 2012 is that 1 yr after grad or 2 yrs because
u begin residency July 2014
and apply through ERAS Sept 2013?
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The year of graduation matters (if at all matters) at the time residency program (program director or program coordinator) look at your application (usually September to November).

So in the example you gave they'll say Oh OK this guy is 14-15 months since graduation. They rarely think of what will be the calculation at the July after. Especially if the applicant is currently engaged in doing something (internship, USCE, research, ..etc)

However, most of the times, programs (those that care about graduation year) put automated filters in ERAS. For example for the 2013-2014 match, they'll say "we are not going to look at anybody graduated before the year 2008", in such case, your calculation does not really matter, anybody graduated 2007 and before will be filtered out. They usually say that openly in their website.

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I have a question regarding the "filter" you mentioned please.

Is there a filter in ERAS that programs use to filter out applications with "interruptions" in their educations or "extensions" or perhaps an "F" in a transcript?

I know that evaluations from clerckships are important for AMGs but when it come to IMGs, how bad is it to have failed a class or two five years ago during basic sciences? Does a filter exist to filter our such applications?
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I checked with our program coordinator, she said she cannot filter out on the basis of school performance using the ERAS program director workstation (PDWS). There is an official online guide for what programs can see in ERAS, here's the link https://www.aamc.org/download/249322/data/pdws_ug.pdf

School performance is not an important factor when it comes to IMGs, this issue has been discussed before here
The effect of Med School Failure on Residency Matching
also search the forums for "school performance" you will see that this issue was discussed several times before.

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hi steptaker, in my home country graduation certificate is given after completion of 1 yr internship, meanining internship is required to complete graduation. however, in final MBBS certificate (which is provided after intership) its written that he/ she passed the exam held in the previous yr. example, i passed in the exam held in july 2008..results were out in november 2008 and completed internship in november 2009. the certificate was issued on t the jan 2010, and it says i passed the exam held in july 2008.

my question is, which one shud be considered my YOG?

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hi steptaker, in my home country graduation certificate is given after completion of 1 yr internship, meanining internship is required to complete graduation. however, in final MBBS certificate (which is provided after intership) its written that he/ she passed the exam held in the previous yr. example, i passed in the exam held in july 2008..results were out in november 2008 and completed internship in november 2009. the certificate was issued on t the jan 2010, and it says i passed the exam held in july 2008.

my question is, which one shud be considered my YOG?

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That's an issue that has been discussed several times before here in the forums for example here About Graduation Date?

My personal opinion (I might be wrong) that your graduation date is what's written in your final medical diploma but you should also get some sort of documentation about your internship. You should make residency programs understand somehow that you were not sitting home for that year and that you did internship.

You can count your internship as postgraduate training (even though it's required to graduate) but since it's dated after your final diploma then it can be considered postgraduate training.

The idea is that you should let people here in the US understand that you have been working so that they don't think you were out of touch from clinical work.

A one year difference in graduation date is not a big deal really. Anything less than 2 years since graduation is considered fresh graduate by all programs and less than 3 years is still considered fresh graduate by many programs.

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I checked with our program coordinator, she said she cannot filter out on the basis of school performance using the ERAS program director workstation (PDWS). There is an official online guide for what programs can see in ERAS, here's the link https://www.aamc.org/download/249322/data/pdws_ug.pdf

School performance is not an important factor when it comes to IMGs, this issue has been discussed before here
The effect of Med School Failure on Residency Matching
also search the forums for "school performance" you will see that this issue was discussed several times before.

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hi can anyone tell me what r my chances for match in 2014 b/c i am 2007 graduate plz i need a reply thanks
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The year of graduation matters (if at all matters) at the time residency program (program director or program coordinator) look at your application (usually September to November).

So in the example you gave they'll say Oh OK this guy is 14-15 months since graduation. They rarely think of what will be the calculation at the July after. Especially if the applicant is currently engaged in doing something (internship, USCE, research, ..etc)

However, most of the times, programs (those that care about graduation year) put automated filters in ERAS. For example for the 2013-2014 match, they'll say "we are not going to look at anybody graduated before the year 2008", in such case, your calculation does not really matter, anybody graduated 2007 and before will be filtered out. They usually say that openly in their website.

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Hello friends , wanna ask u sth ,
Do u know the approx. % of that progr. requiring 5 yrs cutoff ?
As im a 2004 graduate , n` im studying in the middle of step 1 , means that I may have 2 yrs for the rest and having some USCE and may apply for 2016 match ,
So could anyone plz inform me with info. that would help , esp. abt my chances , knowing that I have a very strong will for studying n` having high scores , n` interested in the less competitive int. med.
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Hello friends , wanna ask u sth ,
Do u know the approx. % of that progr. requiring 5 yrs cutoff ?
As im a 2004 graduate , n` im studying in the middle of step 1 , means that I may have 2 yrs for the rest and having some USCE and may apply for 2016 match ,
So could anyone plz inform me with info. that would help , esp. abt my chances , knowing that I have a very strong will for studying n` having high scores , n` interested in the less competitive int. med.
i love the human brain. stop stressing, who cares, get 230+ on steps and no one cares for anything. you can still apply to like 65% of IM programs and many other programs.
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Hi.. Can anyone tell me which is d correct starting date for applying for 2014 match? Some ppl say its 1st sept an some say its 15th..
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