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I have a question... As far as I know, there are some States that require completion of premedical education in order to get licensed in that State. What about IMGs who come from abroad - how are they expected to finish US-based premedical coursework before medical school ? Are you aware which States have such requirements ? I know Illinois and New York does, according to their rules and statues, but how does it look like in practice ? In many countries, medical school starts right after completion of high school.
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I think those boards would understand the process IMGs go through, but in any case you should call up the boards themselves and ask whether its feasible for you to even apply for residency in that state. IMO don't rely on someone's answer on a forum for such a delicate matter, just find their phone number and it'll be a 5 min call and all your queries will be answered. I think New Jersey has this as well. Btw if this matter was an issue why would so many IMGs match in NYC?? Just a thought. Anyways best of luck
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Thanks for your quick answer. I thought the same - why do supposed IMG friendly states have this requirement, if at the same time they should understand the process of ECFMG certification (which, if I understand correctly, does not require completion of premedical courses for international medical graduates). Also, I wonder if the states that have this requirement enforce it only with applicants for permanent licensure in that state, or also for postgraduate training/residency... I read on the official web site of the Florida Medical Board (looking through their rules and statues), that the applicant must have completed pre-professional training before medical school. And yet, many IMGs match to FL´s residency programs straight from their home countries, after having completed just medical school for six years right after high school.
I emailed the Medical Board of Pennsylvania, but received a very short response - basically saying, that it is on a case-by-case basis. How can something as objective as someone´s educational credentials be verified on a case by case basis when it comes to official state licensure ? I find it very strange... Anyways, if someone has any official info, please share. Thank you.
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There is No State in the entire country of the United States that requires premedical education from IMGs!

Six years medical schools are considered equivalent to the premed/med system here in the US.

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Nope. The illinois state does! I matched this yr in chicago and for my licensure they asked for proof of minimum 2years of premed, which in my case was my high school degree, in subject biology chemistry and physics.
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Oh really!
First time I hear this.

How come a high school degree qualifies for premed!

Anyway thanks for the info.

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Any other state-specific info ? Keep it coming...
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There are states that require pre-med. But it has to be the requirement of the country in which you graduate from.

So, if its India, you'd need proof of high school subjects etc.
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That is interesting... Any idea on which specific states require pre-med, and what states simply do not care ? I mean, as long as you have the ECFMG certificate...
I e-mailed the FSMB, and received a vague response - basically stating, that it is on a case-by-case and state-by-state basis...
Let me share some information with you, according to my research (reading the statues, rules and regulations of individual Medical Boards, provided on their web sites), of the states that DO NOT require premed. So far I have a list of: Arizona, California (requires PTAL, though), Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana, Arkansas. At least, the above mentioned states do not write anything about premed or ´pre-professional´ requirement, as the Illinois Medical Board does. Who has some more state-specific info. ?
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That is interesting... Any idea on which specific states require pre-med, and what states simply do not care ? I mean, as long as you have the ECFMG certificate...
I e-mailed the FSMB, and received a vague response - basically stating, that it is on a case-by-case and state-by-state basis...
Let me share some information with you, according to my research (reading the statues, rules and regulations of individual Medical Boards, provided on their web sites), of the states that DO NOT require premed. So far I have a list of: Arizona, California (requires PTAL, though), Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana, Arkansas. At least, the above mentioned states do not write anything about premed or ´pre-professional´ requirement, as the Illinois Medical Board does. Who has some more state-specific info. ?
You have to go to each state's medical boards website and see their requirements for PERMANENT license. Some say you need pre-med, but this can be of the country where you did undergrad med training.
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Nope. The illinois state does! I matched this yr in chicago and for my licensure they asked for proof of minimum 2years of premed, which in my case was my high school degree, in subject biology chemistry and physics.
I asked one of the pgy2 who is from the same medical school in my country egypt, he said tht he signed it from vice dean and it was accepted here in usa
They just need the signature and stamp
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Could someone kindly contribute with a list of States that do (or do not) have this requirement ?
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Could someone kindly contribute with a list of States that do (or do not) have this requirement ?
I doubt there's a list.

You have to do the legwork and go to each and every states medical licensing boards website and see their requirements for permanent licensure.
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hi, do any one can tell me if i need to complete my Internship(1 yr) to be eligible for usmle? or i will need a 6 year completion certificate if i cn go up to residency? plz help me friends. I did my mbbs frm Bd.
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If the internship is part of your basic medical school curriculum, then yes, you must complete it. If you have completed your degree and obtained what FAIMER and ECFMG call a ¨final medical dilploma¨, then you would be eligible without it. For example in Mexico, there is a one year compulsory internship and one year rural service as part of the medical school curriculum. In other words, it is required in order to get the final medical diploma. To find out closer what the ¨final medical diploma¨ is for your specific country, go to: https://imed.faimer.org/ and search by Country or University name.
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hi, do any one can tell me if i need to complete my Internship(1 yr) to be eligible for usmle? or i will need a 6 year completion certificate if i cn go up to residency? plz help me friends. I did my mbbs frm Bd.
If you need to do internship to get a medical degree, yes. You are required to do it.
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