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Unhappy is working as an IMG doctor in usa possible??

actually i thougt about usmle but too many obstacles are present for IMG

that make it not possible for an IMG to be a doctor except as a family medicine or general internal medicine

first of all you are not allowed to have surgical residency

you have to travel to usa before your graduation to have electives for a minmum 3 months for at least 3 LORS

you are not allowed to have elective after graduation

even researches and externships of no great importance

your score is of no importance even if it is so high except if you have electives

so what is the importance of scores?? first aid??? kaplan?? secreats of usmle?? what is the importance of an IMG !!!!
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I do not understand what you are talking about.
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5000 FMG/IMG match every year

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He is probably ranting.. i dont find any coherent idea or reasoning behind his post...
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He is probably ranting.. i dont find any coherent idea or reasoning behind his post...
iam talking about obstacles facing IMG which are so difficult
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iam talking about obstacles facing IMG which are so difficult
Being an IMG puts you in disadvantage that is true..

But having good USMLE scores plus good USCE (you dont need more than 3 months) puts you in almost any specialty except the ones that are reserved for AMG;s (plastics, derm, orto, RadioOncology etc)

Also eventho its unfair thats the way the U.S and almost every other country that accepts IMG's is... it is fair and correct that they give an edge to people they train in their own country and then start picking from the best foreigners. If people are going to complain about this I assume is because they dont know anything about life in general.

NOT everybody is destined to enter US residency.. doesnt matter what others say or with the famous quote "Never stop pursuing your dreams" bla bla bla.. If that was the case then everybody would be entering a residency in the U.S and that is not happening right?

Play by the rules.. give your best and if you fail at least be glad that you tried.. but dont come here complaining about the U.S system because it is their right to put or implement the rules they want.
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Does anyone have IMG friends who matched into psychiatry recently? Is it IMG friendly?
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I do not understand what you are talking about.
dears please answer my question. How is it that some programs don't need step 1 or step 2 scores? How does this work?
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dears please answer my question. How is it that some programs don't need step 1 or step 2 scores? How does this work?
The most important reason why IMG;s fail to match or fail to pass the USMLE is LACK OF INFORMATION...

How come people want to apply for the exams or residency without knowing the rules or the art of applying to residency?

I have never heard of ANY program that doesnt require at least step 1 to apply.

AMG's (people that graduated from U.S Medical schools) typically apply only with step 1 and/or step 2 CK, this is because they are measured differently and thats the norm.

If you are not an AMG you need ECFMG certification plus USCE in order to be competitive.

People need to learn to do some research for themselves instead of just asking a question
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The most important reason why IMG;s fail to match or fail to pass the USMLE is LACK OF INFORMATION...

How come people want to apply for the exams or residency without knowing the rules or the art of applying to residency?

I have never heard of ANY program that doesnt require at least step 1 to apply.

AMG's (people that graduated from U.S Medical schools) typically apply only with step 1 and/or step 2 CK, this is because they are measured differently and thats the norm.

If you are not an AMG you need ECFMG certification plus USCE in order to be competitive.

People need to learn to do some research for themselves instead of just asking a question
Beleive me I have checked FREIDA online and there are some programs that don't need step1 or 2 scores. here is an example: Northridge Hospital Medical Center Program. Identifier: 120-05-11-053, Specialty: Family Medicine how doesthis work. Are they money based,(You have to pay alot of money) or what???
Northridge Hospital Medical Center Program
Identifier: 120-05-11-053
Specialty: Family Medicine

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actually i thougt about usmle but too many obstacles are present for IMG

that make it not possible for an IMG to be a doctor except as a family medicine or general internal medicine

first of all you are not allowed to have surgical residency

you have to travel to usa before your graduation to have electives for a minmum 3 months for at least 3 LORS

you are not allowed to have elective after graduation

even researches and externships of no great importance

your score is of no importance even if it is so high except if you have electives

so what is the importance of scores?? first aid??? kaplan?? secreats of usmle?? what is the importance of an IMG !!!!

Dont post any such comments without any concrete proof and stop demotivating other people who are studying their hearts out ....i dont know whether you want to decrease the competition or what but you should know the statistics when speaking

As per NRPM in their latest 2013 match result list it states
"Notable this year, however, are the results for U.S. citizen IMGs and foreignnational IMGs, whose match rates increased by four and seven percentage points respective"

NRPM 2012 program result
Percentage of Programs that Typically Interview and Rank Each Applicant Groups

http://postimg.org/image/4jw3e1du5/

72 % IMG get interviewed same as the % of US grads .....

so on what grounds are you stating your observation ???

if you are competent enough you can get to any desired residency program as you like .....but as long as you are competent .....dont try to derail people who already have put enough

Secondly as for the electives ....
i have talked to numerous people and they have mostly done steps after graduation and they have done externships afterward and mind you they have all gotten to respective residency programs and they are satisfied with them .

Thirdly Scores....
are you in your senses .....what high scores are you talking about that are not worth it any more ..... i guarantee you if you have scored 260+ in all steps and passed in first attempt all steps ......even you have one US Lor and then 3-4 your home LORS .....then as far as i know you can get residency in your top most priority programs .........internal medicine i am talking about .... in a reputable program also


So kindly don't just start posting random thoughts of your own on random threads..don't misguide people....grab books and score ... hardwork .....and compete ......and make your own way .....
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The most important reason why IMG;s fail to match or fail to pass the USMLE is LACK OF INFORMATION...

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People need to learn to do some research for themselves instead of just asking a question
Very well said!
Unfortunately, this happens way to much in this forum... I wish ppl would read the ecfmg.org or usmle.org information before they asked questions!
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first of all you are not allowed to have surgical residency
This is not true!
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Moustafa you sound like an idiot. Stop bringing hard working and passionate people down. Find something better in life to better yourself.
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Moustafa you sound like an idiot. Stop bringing hard working and passionate people down. Find something better in life to better yourself.
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Dont post any such comments without any concrete proof and stop demotivating other people who are studying their hearts out ....i dont know whether you want to decrease the competition or what but you should know the statistics when speaking

As per NRPM in their latest 2013 match result list it states
"Notable this year, however, are the results for U.S. citizen IMGs and foreignnational IMGs, whose match rates increased by four and seven percentage points respective"

NRPM 2012 program result
Percentage of Programs that Typically Interview and Rank Each Applicant Groups

http://postimg.org/image/4jw3e1du5/

72 % IMG get interviewed same as the % of US grads .....

so on what grounds are you stating your observation ???

if you are competent enough you can get to any desired residency program as you like .....but as long as you are competent .....dont try to derail people who already have put enough

Secondly as for the electives ....
i have talked to numerous people and they have mostly done steps after graduation and they have done externships afterward and mind you they have all gotten to respective residency programs and they are satisfied with them .

Thirdly Scores....
are you in your senses .....what high scores are you talking about that are not worth it any more ..... i guarantee you if you have scored 260+ in all steps and passed in first attempt all steps ......even you have one US Lor and then 3-4 your home LORS .....then as far as i know you can get residency in your top most priority programs .........internal medicine i am talking about .... in a reputable program also


So kindly don't just start posting random thoughts of your own on random threads..don't misguide people....grab books and score ... hardwork .....and compete ......and make your own way .....
Dear, very well, analyzed post. I am very old IMG 2004, tried to appear in steps in 2008, family issues and post like this thread made me disappointed and took job in United Nations, still working for UN, I have now decided to apply, as one of my cousin who is family practitioner in US has motivated me. I am studying hard my eligibility period SEp-Nov.
Still need your advice, my chances as I have no electives and I am very old IMG not in practice for many years.
Your suggestion will be worthy.
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