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Default USMLE Step 3 passed before starting residency

Some programs indicate this on "how to apply", they offer H1B visa.

is Step 3 for H1B or is it for residency.

I mean they can not kick you out or ask about step 3 mark before submitting ROL.

so I guess this is for H1B visa correct.
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Some programs indicate this on "how to apply", they offer H1B visa.

is Step 3 for H1B or is it for residency.

I mean they can not kick you out or ask about step 3 mark before submitting ROL.

so I guess this is for H1B visa correct.
I don't know much about step 3 but here's what I know & I may be wrong.
step 3 is required for all residents whether they need a visa or not , but when it comes to IMGs needing a visa sponsorship,the programs ask for it beforehand to make sure that you're not gonna fail it & the sponsorship is gonna go in vain , I think it gives them a little more insight about the applicant.
people who don't need a visa still need to take step 3 though , I think before the end of first year of residency .

again I'm not a %100 sure but that's what I heard.
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I don't know much about step 3 but here's what I know & I may be wrong.
step 3 is required for all residents whether they need a visa or not , but when it comes to IMGs needing a visa sponsorship,the programs ask for it beforehand to make sure that you're not gonna fail it & the sponsorship is gonna go in vain , I think it gives them a little more insight about the applicant.
people who don't need a visa still need to take step 3 though , I think before the end of first year of residency .

again I'm not a %100 sure but that's what I heard.
So step 3 is for H1B, not J1
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So step 3 is for H1B, not J1
sorry Shima , this I don't really know , don't even know what the difference is.
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Residency programs may offer visa sponsorship to foreign medical students or graduates.

FMS completing USCE/USMLE test prep typically receive B1/B2, F1/F2 visa sponsorship.

PGY1 FMG typically receive J1/J2 or H1/H4 for residency.

J1 is the most popular for PGY1 FMG. If the FMG passes Step 3 during their first year of residency they can apply for H1.

If a FMG passed Step 3 before applying/securing residency they can request H1 visa sponsorship instead of J1 if the residency program offers it. Qualifies a FMG to apply to more programs.

An employer files a petition on the behalf of the FMG with the documents required to suffice to establish the FMG qualifications. Passing USMLE Step 3 is a prerequisite for a physician in order to get an H1B visa for residency training.

If a residency program only offers H1 visa sponsorship its away for them to say that they only accept FMG that have passed Step 3.

If you apply and interview with a residency program that only offers H1 visa sponsorship and you havent passed Step 3 they can reject you on that basis before submitting your Rank Order List.

If you rank a residency program that you didnt interview with and you dont meet their Step 3/H1 visa sponsorship requirement they can reject you on that basis after you submit your ROL.
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Residency programs may offer visa sponsorship to foreign medical students or graduates.

FMS completing USCE/USMLE test prep typically receive B1/B2, F1/F2 visa sponsorship.

PGY1 FMG typically receive J1/J2 or H1/H4 for residency.

J1 is the most popular for PGY1 FMG. If the FMG passes Step 3 during their first year of residency they can apply for H1.

If a FMG passed Step 3 before applying/securing residency they can request H1 visa sponsorship instead of J1 if the residency program offers it. Qualifies a FMG to apply to more programs.

An employer files a petition on the behalf of the FMG with the documents required to suffice to establish the FMG qualifications. Passing USMLE Step 3 is a prerequisite for a physician in order to get an H1B visa for residency training.

If a residency program only offers H1 visa sponsorship its away for them to say that they only accept FMG that have passed Step 3.

If you apply and interview with a residency program that only offers H1 visa sponsorship and you havent passed Step 3 they can reject you on that basis before submitting your Rank Order List.

If you rank a residency program that you didnt interview with and you dont meet their Step 3/H1 visa sponsorship requirement they can reject you on that basis after you submit your ROL.
thx for the clarification
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Residency programs may offer visa sponsorship to foreign medical students or graduates.

FMS completing USCE/USMLE test prep typically receive B1/B2, F1/F2 visa sponsorship.

PGY1 FMG typically receive J1/J2 or H1/H4 for residency.

J1 is the most popular for PGY1 FMG. If the FMG passes Step 3 during their first year of residency they can apply for H1.

If a FMG passed Step 3 before applying/securing residency they can request H1 visa sponsorship instead of J1 if the residency program offers it. Qualifies a FMG to apply to more programs.

An employer files a petition on the behalf of the FMG with the documents required to suffice to establish the FMG qualifications. Passing USMLE Step 3 is a prerequisite for a physician in order to get an H1B visa for residency training.

If a residency program only offers H1 visa sponsorship its away for them to say that they only accept FMG that have passed Step 3.

If you apply and interview with a residency program that only offers H1 visa sponsorship and you havent passed Step 3 they can reject you on that basis before submitting your Rank Order List.

If you rank a residency program that you didnt interview with and you dont meet their Step 3/H1 visa sponsorship requirement they can reject you on that basis after you submit your ROL.
That's what I meant,lol
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Bottom line.. if you can take the exam (and hopefully get a good grade) before the match.. then by all means do so! it looks good, you can focus on your intern year and dont waste time re-reading crappy stuff.. and I also believe that the feeling of getting rid of USMLE forever should be quite exciting
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Bottom line.. if you can take the exam (and hopefully get a good grade) before the match.. then by all means do so! it looks good, you can focus on your intern year and dont waste time re-reading crappy stuff.. and I also believe that the feeling of getting rid of USMLE forever should be quite exciting
so programs that say usmle step 1 is required before starting residency are talking about getting H1b visa , they will not kick you out if you match, since they also sponsor J-1 visa.
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so programs that say usmle step 1 is required before starting residency are talking about getting H1b visa , they will not kick you out if you match, since they also sponsor J-1 visa.

Yes, exactly, but it would be nice to enter residency without USMLE worries.. also if you are applying and lets assume 2 applicants have almost exactly the same profile + CV and stuff, but one has step 3 (with a decent to good grade) and the other one doesnt, and both are applying lets say to J1 visa, I guess they would pick the one with step 3
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