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Question Impact of repeating a year of medical school

I think I'm overall an above average medical student. Actually, I'm a hard working person, that always tries to do the best.

All I can say is, I take the responsibility for what happened, but I can't change the past. I have improved a lot after that, and my teachers almost all of them think I'm a great student, I get compliments from them. It was just a difficult time for me back then, I had many issues but they were permanently solved. And now I'm wondering if I will match with that red flag on my application. I intend to apply for 2014 match, hopefully.
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Here are the details about what happened: I failed two disciplines in medical school on my second year, and my school had this requirement that you cannot fail two disciplines that are given in a 6 month period, and when that happens, you cannot advance to the next year while you retake the disciplines you previously failed. This basically means, that it took me +1 year to finish medical school, but I didn't repeat everything I had passed before, just those 2 disciplines, which by the way I'm not sure if you guys ever seen something like this before, but I'll try to describe the best way I can, one was scientific metodology (it was supposed to teach us how to do research), and the other was preventive medicine (it was all about visits in a underserved community nearby).

You guys wouldn't believe the crazy things that happen on medical schools around the world. Why hold back a medical student that did great on pharmacology, physiology, just because of that. And by the way, we have had those 2 disciplines like 4 times during the entire graduation course!! While other important subjects like microbiology or dermatology is given only once. I don't get it. Not saying my medical school is the worst, that would be a lie.
I know about at least 5 students from here that completed residency training in the US.
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I have the same problem although in more important subjects, but that was primarily down to me being very unwell at the time of the exam. I wonder if good scores on the steps can compensate for the gap.

If anyone knows someone who matched with a failure in med school, your input would be much appreciated.
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Repeating a year is a red flag. The PD will ask you about this so prepare well for the interview.
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The match is already hard enough without any red flag and good credentials. I not only have this red flag but also need visa, that's why I'm desperate, I think it could mean game over for me. So I really wanted some kind of reassurance here.
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I have the same problem although in more important subjects, but that was primarily down to me being very unwell at the time of the exam. I wonder if good scores on the steps can compensate for the gap.

If anyone knows someone who matched with a failure in med school, your input would be much appreciated.
Yes, I think it's something that can happen to anybody, and I hope that good scores, LORs and usce can save us.
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The match is already hard enough without any red flag and good credentials. I not only have this red flag but also need visa, that's why I'm desperate, I think it could mean game over for me. So I really wanted some kind of reassurance here.

I think you're being too pessimistic. Needing visa isn't a 'red flag' per se. 4000 residents who need visa match every year. If people with failed attempts on steps who need visa can match, I think we can too.

In my opinion a step failure should be worse than a med school failure.

EDIT - I know people with scores in 200s who needed visa and matched. Compared to them, if we can manage 250s and 260s, we should be safe. Besides, as Sadde says, its the interviews where the failure will be brought up. If you get 10 IVs, there's bound to be at least 2-3 where they don't ask you about that.
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I think you're being too pessimistic. Needing visa isn't a 'red flag' per se. 4000 residents who need visa match every year. If people with failed attempts on steps who need visa can match, I think we can too.

In my opinion a step failure should be worse than a med school failure.

EDIT - I know people with scores in 200s who needed visa and matched. Compared to them, if we can manage 250s and 260s, we should be safe. Besides, as Sadde says, its the interviews where the failure will be brought up. If you get 10 IVs, there's bound to be at least 2-3 where they don't ask you about that.
I think that what you said makes sense. Perhaps I was just overreacting. There is nothing we can do to change what has happened, but we sure can work very hard to compensate for that. Good step scores, research, voluntary work, whatever we can do to show them our passion for what we do, and prove them that there is no pattern of failure, and it was just one isolated fact!
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I dont say its not gonna have an effect at all.....but chances are very slim because med school grades are evaluated only for USMGs...for IMGs step scores are important...
So if you do well with steps then you have pretty good chances like all the other IMGs...thats not a problem at all..
so dont worry and prepare well...
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I dont say its not gonna have an effect at all.....but chances are very slim because med school grades are evaluated only for USMGs...for IMGs step scores are important...
So if you do well with steps then you have pretty good chances like all the other IMGs...thats not a problem at all..
so dont worry and prepare well...
wish you a very good luck...
Hey thanks! I truly hope that step scores and everything will compensate for that. I don't want to see my future residency spot jeopardized for something that happened in med school years ago.
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Hey Guys I have pretty much the same problem. I "failed" two years of med school because I didn't go to school to work. I had financial problems. So I had to repeat those 2 years. I am a US citizen. If I get really god scores and god LORs, do you think that I will be able to match? I am interested in Family medicine and Ortho.
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