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I am new to Forum. I am an old img, graduate of 2005, December. I got a associate degree in Ultrasound in 2011 and currently working as an ultrasound tech for 1 year now. I am a RDMS and following this forum for some time now. I never attempted to take USMLE because of family obligations; I have 3 kids. Now since kids are getting older, I want to persue my career in medicine. I have already bought some USMLE prep books + Dr. Najeeb lectures. I want to know what are my chances of getting residency. I am a US citizen and would love get any advice regarding my situation. I have very strong contacts and friends who are international MD in different hospitals here, also in Mayo clinic and I know I can get clinical internships (may be hands on experience too, if I try).
Any advice will be appreciated.......confused rt now.

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Take exams, get experience and participate in match, that is the only way you can find out if it is gonna work out or not. No one can give you definite answer to your question. It is doable! Good Luck!
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Take exams, get experience and participate in match, that is the only way you can find out if it is gonna work out or not. No one can give you definite answer to your question. It is doable! Good Luck!
Thanks for your advice. I just wanted to know if it is worth spending a lot of time preparing for USMLE with a part time job and 3 kids.
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I went to med school with 1 y.o. child!!!! graduated 2012, passed all the steps and hopefully matching! Doable!!!
Don't waste time on forums and study!
PS: It is gonna be HARD! but nothing is harder than raising kids, if you can raise 3 kinds you can do anything in the world!

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I went to med school with 1 y.o. child!!!! graduated 2012, passed all the steps and hopefully matching! Doable!!!
Don't waste time on forums and study!
PS: It is gonna be HARD! but nothing is harder than raising kids, if you can raise 3 kinds you can do anything in the world!
I think u are right. I went to medical school for last two years of MBBS with two kids....it was very HARD for me. But I finished and graduated in 2005. Then I had my third kid and went to ultrasound school for three years. I always thought I could not pass usmle exams...and that is one of very few things in life that I regret very much. When I started reading these usmle forums, then I realized I could have done it too.
I will start serious prep for usmle asap. Thanks
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I am listening to Dr. Najeeb lectures right now and want to know if that is enough to build the concepts necessary for everything that I need to prepare for Step 1? I am planning to do RR (if possible), BRS physio, High yield anatomy, neuroanatomy and embryo. In addition to that I might do kaplan Pharma and then I will pick up FA ( I don't know how many times I will do that; may be 3 times) but I am still confused about how to study Biochemistry. So anyone have any suggestion about Biochemistry; I read that it is a low yield subject, so don't wanna do Lippincotts or Kaplan biochem for that.
My next question is about kaplan videos...if I complete Dr. Najeeb videos, should I do Kaplan videos too?? How much it will be helpful or would it be just a waste of time?? I want to mention that since I graduated in 2005, my basics are week. And I am working on that.
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I am listening to Dr. Najeeb lectures right now and want to know if that is enough to build the concepts necessary for everything that I need to prepare for Step 1? I am planning to do RR (if possible), BRS physio, High yield anatomy, neuroanatomy and embryo. In addition to that I might do kaplan Pharma and then I will pick up FA ( I don't know how many times I will do that; may be 3 times) but I am still confused about how to study Biochemistry. So anyone have any suggestion about Biochemistry; I read that it is a low yield subject, so don't wanna do Lippincotts or Kaplan biochem for that.
My next question is about kaplan videos...if I complete Dr. Najeeb videos, should I do Kaplan videos too?? How much it will be helpful or would it be just a waste of time?? I want to mention that since I graduated in 2005, my basics are week. And I am working on that.
Do Kaplan only- not Najeeb. Read the books and watch the videos. Weak on basics? Then watch and read them twice or thrice. Then do questions and read First Aid cover to cover as many times as possible.

Najeeb is too long. It's great if you're doing preclinical stuff in med school but it's not as board-geared as kaplan.

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Good luck with your preparation. We should organize a group- moms preparing for USMLE

Anyway, I read that median age of matching for IMG is 31.6 years, with a SD of 5.6 years (I was an old graduate when I was 31.6, too). A half matches the first year, and 3/4 within 5 years. Although statistic is not that good, it's actually not that bad, also! I mean, there's a lot of people out there matched, as old grads. So, get into top gear and have faith!
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Thanks tootsie and Marina
I know this is one of the hardest decisions for me; Should I even bother studying for USMLE or not. I am an old grad + IMG. My only plus point would be already working in the health care field and able to find observerships. But age would be a negative; I don't know if it's a huge negative or not. But if old IMGs are not considered for match, why should I invest my time and money in studying for USMLE. I have a casual job; it means I get work only on demand basis, it is not a regular job. So honestly I don't make much money, that is the only reason I get some time to study with kids and family.
If I have very low chances to get a match, I should reconsider my decision to go for USMLE.
I request for honest evaluation of my situation. Thank you everyone in advance for your opinions and suggestions. Do you think this criteria is not good for a match, then let me know, Please!

Age:37
graduation year:2005
Degrees: MBBS + Associate bachelor of Sonography
Work Experience: Two medical centers as ultrasound tech for less than one year
Citizenship: US citizen

Again.......opinions and suggestions welcome!
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Hi Katie!

No one on this forum can you the best advice as none of us know you and we don't know what's your real circumstances...

You have to find the answer within yourself! If you have the passion for medicine and you really want to do it..then by no means go ahead and do it. Age shouldn't matter but attitude does. Talk to your significant other and see if he is ready to support you!

I know people who go to med school in their 40's cos they always wanted to do it and couldn't afford it...You are already done with school! Yes it will be difficult being that far away from medicine for that long but people still match..

To be honest, you will never know until you try!

Remember: there is a big difference between: " I want to do it" and " I will do it"
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Great and honest advice, Dr. Raw!!!
I really appreciate it.
Sometimes hearing it from someone else makes things clearer in your mind.

Thanks a lot!
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Can anyone help me with this decision? I want to know which BRS physiology edition is worth it: 2010, 2013, or 2014? 2013 is still 5th edition and 2014 is latest 6th edition. I am confused, I don't want to spent too much money on each book, coz I need to buy other books too. So what edition will you prefer or suggest?? Would 5th edition work? or is it worth waiting for the 6th edition to get cheaper?
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I went to med school with 1 y.o. child!!!! graduated 2012, passed all the steps and hopefully matching! Doable!!!
Don't waste time on forums and study!
PS: It is gonna be HARD! but nothing is harder than raising kids, if you can raise 3 kinds you can do anything in the world!
and I too realise its not just raising children but the combo of children and residency is very tough. I did my residency in emergency medicine in India and always wanted to do EM in US.
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and I too realise its not just raising children but the combo of children and residency is very tough. I did my residency in emergency medicine in India and always wanted to do EM in US.
totally agree.......people who have kids and can't hire help, USMLE is the toughest for them.....but we can still try....don't know how far we can go but there is no harm in trying!
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nobody can tell u what ur chances r. the only thing is to be persistent. in order to give usmles drs have to be fully motivated. go thru books for step1 or any step and see with which u r comfortable. i wud suggest kaplan and other established books but again ur the best judge.
hah u can beat my age but i still believe in being persistent.
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nobody can tell u what ur chances r. the only thing is to be persistent. in order to give usmles drs have to be fully motivated. go thru books for step1 or any step and see with which u r comfortable. i wud suggest kaplan and other established books but again ur the best judge.
hah u can beat my age but i still believe in being persistent.
Thank you for your inspiring words. Best of luck with your future!
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I am also a Mom, graduated in 2007, I had 5 interviews in family medicine my step 1 215, step 2 232, nothing impressive, but I had 2 awesome letters of recommendation from USA doctors who really wanted to help me, so I am sure working in the med field you have good contacts, the best advice a friend gave me when I was stuck getting low scores in qbank, thinking I can't pass this test, was, commit to study, you have to get stuck with the books, dream with this stuff, if your kid say " I am hungry" you say " I don't know you" LOL, a little too much, but yeah it takes a lot to pass this test, but it is not impossible. If I could have done anything different I would have try to do better on my scores instead of just trying to pass, because that is what will open the door even if you are an old grad. good luck!!
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I am also a Mom, graduated in 2007, I had 5 interviews in family medicine my step 1 215, step 2 232, nothing impressive, but I had 2 awesome letters of recommendation from USA doctors who really wanted to help me, so I am sure working in the med field you have good contacts, the best advice a friend gave me when I was stuck getting low scores in qbank, thinking I can't pass this test, was, commit to study, you have to get stuck with the books, dream with this stuff, if your kid say " I am hungry" you say " I don't know you" LOL, a little too much, but yeah it takes a lot to pass this test, but it is not impossible. If I could have done anything different I would have try to do better on my scores instead of just trying to pass, because that is what will open the door even if you are an old grad. good luck!!
Thanks......and LOL.....I know it's hard with the kids, specially when your kids are trying to get your attention when you are studying. They are good in giving you guilt trip too. But that's true, if you want to get a residency, you need to bury yourself into books. I know it's not always possible, but one should try his/her best. It's ironic when you think that kids will get older and I will have plenty of time to study for USMLE and.....the opposite happens, it seems you have less time now.
But anyway........our job is to do our best. Do you have any advice about which BRS PHYSIOLOGY edition I should buy. And what did you use for Biochemistry?
I will appreciate it....thanks
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Thanks......and LOL.....I know it's hard with the kids, specially when your kids are trying to get your attention when you are studying. They are good in giving you guilt trip too. But that's true, if you want to get a residency, you need to bury yourself into books. I know it's not always possible, but one should try his/her best. It's ironic when you think that kids will get older and I will have plenty of time to study for USMLE and.....the opposite happens, it seems you have less time now.
But anyway........our job is to do our best. Do you have any advice about which BRS PHYSIOLOGY edition I should buy. And what did you use for Biochemistry?
I will appreciate it....thanks
I used kaplan only for everything, videos, books, qbank, again following my only friend's advice... I did not even used uworld or first aid, I did not even knew they existed, I wish I had... but I loved kaplan it was long but worth the while to me because I had been out of school for so long.
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I used kaplan only for everything, videos, books, qbank, again following my only friend's advice... I did not even used uworld or first aid, I did not even knew they existed, I wish I had... but I loved kaplan it was long but worth the while to me because I had been out of school for so long.
o.k. Thanks and good luck!
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Anyone got Doctors in Training videos for Step 1? I checked the price online, it's way expensive. If anyone used DIT for step 1 preparation and doesn't need it anymore, are you interested in selling or sharing?? Please let me know.
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I would say stay away, kaplan and first aid book and u world are enough.

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I would say stay away, kaplan and first aid book and u world are enough.
Anyone out there willing to help:
Please let me know if you can share DIT videos. That will be very helpful. Thanks......
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Hi all, I need advice one more time. i know that for sure that all FM/IM residency programs in my state have a 5 year cut off year of graduation rule. That is why I wanted to go into psychiatry. Bcuz I have seen few examples of older IMGs getting into psychiatry program here. But today I was extremely depressed when a friend told me that there's going to be 5 year cut off YOG rule in psychiatry too. There's no point of me even trying for USMLE, I thought. My question is, does anyone know an older IMGs getting matched in psychiatry. I wish I get some hope or it will be a waste of time and money for me. Any advice will help!!!

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Hi all, I need advice one more time. i know that for sure that all FM/IM residency programs in my state have a 5 year cut off year of graduation rule. That is why I wanted to go into psychiatry. Bcuz I have seen few examples of older IMGs getting into psychiatry program here. But today I was extremely depressed when a friend told me that there's going to be 5 year cut off YOG rule in psychiatry too. There's no point of me even trying for USMLE, I thought. My question is, does anyone know an older IMGs getting matched in psychiatry. I wish I get some hope or it will be a waste of time and money for me. Any advice will help!!!
I noticed that this thread been around for a while, Have you managed to finish your exams?
in your response to your question and since I have applied this year to psychiatry, Yes some do have a cut of 5 years others of 2 and some up to 10,
Matcharesident.com helps you figure out these programs.
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I noticed that this thread been around for a while, Have you managed to finish your exams?
in your response to your question and since I have applied this year to psychiatry, Yes some do have a cut of 5 years others of 2 and some up to 10,
Matcharesident.com helps you figure out these programs.
Thanks. I will check this site out. No I did not take any exams yet, still preparing. But so scared of road blocks. I wanted to score high since I have so many drawbacks; YOG, IMG. I thought I had some chance because I don't need a visa and know connections in healthcare. I can't go faster in my preparation because a)I have to do a job due to a lot of student loan and b)have three kids so busy with family too. But I have been studying hard as much as I can. I hope I can get at least in Psychiatry if not any other residency program!
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Your focus should be USMLE scores and first attempt pass.

I was between 2 fields (one fairly competitive and one not so much). I told myself based on my scores would determine how realistic it was for me to pursue the more competitive one and my preference. I scored high enough that my question was answered on if I had a chance for the more competitive field.

Therefore, you really don't have an answer until you take your steps. Once you take your steps, than reassess.
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I am new to Forum. I am an old img, graduate of 2005, December. I got a associate degree in Ultrasound in 2011 and currently working as an ultrasound tech for 1 year now. I am a RDMS and following this forum for some time now. I never attempted to take USMLE because of family obligations; I have 3 kids. Now since kids are getting older, I want to persue my career in medicine. I have already bought some USMLE prep books + Dr. Najeeb lectures. I want to know what are my chances of getting residency. I am a US citizen and would love get any advice regarding my situation. I have very strong contacts and friends who are international MD in different hospitals here, also in Mayo clinic and I know I can get clinical internships (may be hands on experience too, if I try).
Any advice will be appreciated.......confused rt now.

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Dear Katie, our stories are very similar: I have 3 children (18, 17 and 16) the 18 yo boy is now in college; I did my residency in Pediatrics back home and 2 extra years of Intensive Care; I am US citizen; worked in the US in a laboratory; kind of contacts, etc. But I graduated in 1998 (YES). I applied on September to only 29 programs, got 6 interviews that went very well (2 of the interviews were because of contacts). This January 12 (my birthday) the program director of one of the programs called me to offer a prematch and I accepted, of course. They already sent me the contract to sign and I will start in July 1.
The distant year of graduation is a disadvantage, but you have other points on your favor : US citizen (a big one), worked in the US in the medical field and CONTACTS.
Believe in yourself and that you will make it. I personally went to Kaplan to study and invested on my preparation. When I passed Step 1 they offered me a part time job as Step 1 facilitator (kind of a tutoring for Step 1) and when I pass CS started working teaching Physical Exam and correcting patient notes and I am still doing that until I start residency.
I wish you the best. Let us know about your progress

BTW, Dr. Najeeb is great. I admire him so much
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Thanks. I will check this site out. No I did not take any exams yet, still preparing. But so scared of road blocks. I wanted to score high since I have so many drawbacks; YOG, IMG. I thought I had some chance because I don't need a visa and know connections in healthcare. I can't go faster in my preparation because a)I have to do a job due to a lot of student loan and b)have three kids so busy with family too. But I have been studying hard as much as I can. I hope I can get at least in Psychiatry if not any other residency program!
I wrote on this thread minutes ago. Then I realized that it has been for a while. Dear Katie, you already have a lot of feedback from people. Each story is unique. But, at this point, you have a lot of opinions to decide if it is worth it or not. I want to give you an "advice": Take one step (literally) at the time.
When people asked me about the residency application process or the Step 2 CK and I just was studying for Step 1 I always replied : I am taking one step at the time. I want to check if I can pass in a decent way the Step 1, and then I will think about the next one. I did it in that way and the process took me like 2 years because of my 3 kids, part time job, etc, etc, etc.

Cut off of 5 years are in most of the programs, but I still applied some of them and now I get my prematch and I will start residency. And I graduated in 1998 (OLD)
Just focus in your Study for Step 1 now, forget about residency for now.

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I wrote on this thread minutes ago. Then I realized that it has been for a while. Dear Katie, you already have a lot of feedback from people. Each story is unique. But, at this point, you have a lot of opinions to decide if it is worth it or not. I want to give you an "advice": Take one step (literally) at the time.
When people asked me about the residency application process or the Step 2 CK and I just was studying for Step 1 I always replied : I am taking one step at the time. I want to check if I can pass in a decent way the Step 1, and then I will think about the next one. I did it in that way and the process took me like 2 years because of my 3 kids, part time job, etc, etc, etc.

Cut off of 5 years are in most of the programs, but I still applied some of them and now I get my prematch and I will start residency. And I graduated in 1998 (OLD)
Just focus in your Study for Step 1 now, forget about residency for now.

Best of luck
Congrats Dr.Isabel very inspiring story
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Hello Dr. Isabel,

I am very impressed that you were offered prematch despite many years of gap in between your medical education. I am also in similar situation and would like to find out what programs did you apply into (family, internal etc). Any help would be appreciate or you can reference program names.

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Hello Dr. Isabel,

I am very impressed that you were offered prematch despite many years of gap in between your medical education. I am also in similar situation and would like to find out what programs did you apply into (family, internal etc). Any help would be appreciate or you can reference program names.

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Hi!!
I just applied to 18 programs in Peds and 11 in Family Medicine. I got 6 interviews, just 1 in FM, the others in Peds. I feel I did very good in my interviews (somehow I have good interview skills and I look confident even if I am nervous lol ). I researched on the internet about the questions I could have, and also the questions to ask to residents, attendings, program directors, etc. I also review current articles about the specialty just in case and I was asked about that in the program I prematched (I spoke about the article even with the results of the biostat study lol)
Then I sent Thank you emails to all the people whom interviewed me, without forgetting the program assistant and I sent Thank you cards to all of them by mail (maybe old-fashion way, but that is class act)
Two of my interviews I believe were because of contacts. If you have them, get advantage of it. There is no a sin to give a try. It is a really important part of your life that is involved. So, why not?
Try to get your Step 3 out of the way. Study and present it.
The best of luck
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I wrote on this thread minutes ago. Then I realized that it has been for a while. Dear Katie, you already have a lot of feedback from people. Each story is unique. But, at this point, you have a lot of opinions to decide if it is worth it or not. I want to give you an "advice": Take one step (literally) at the time.
When people asked me about the residency application process or the Step 2 CK and I just was studying for Step 1 I always replied : I am taking one step at the time. I want to check if I can pass in a decent way the Step 1, and then I will think about the next one. I did it in that way and the process took me like 2 years because of my 3 kids, part time job, etc, etc, etc.

Cut off of 5 years are in most of the programs, but I still applied some of them and now I get my prematch and I will start residency. And I graduated in 1998 (OLD)
Just focus in your Study for Step 1 now, forget about residency for now.

Best of luck
Thanks a lot DR. Isabel....you have really an inspiring success story. I think it's much better to be surrounded by positive people than the people who drag you down. I wish I have heard your story before. If you could do it, so can I. When a physician here told me that I have no chance because of my YOG, I was panicked, I cried most of the time two days ago. Then I talked to a program director in my state and she said they have taken a fewer older graduates in Psychiatry in their program. Other program directors said "No".
So my chances are not good but they are not that bad either. You are absolutely right about taking one thing at a time. I will continue studying and try my best.
Again thanks a lot. (What a wonderful gift you got on your birthday)!.
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