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Default Surgery residency; average USMLE scores?

Hello guys,
I hope you all are well. I want your opinion regarding General surgery residency for IMG's. What is considered a good/decent score 'range' for a handy chance for getting residency in general surgery. I read the NRMP 2013 match report which mentioned 240-250 range being the scored of most people who got the match. Can anyone post regarding this, with statistical and realistic mindset I'll be grateful. Thank you so much.
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Okay, firstly, whilst having a great Step 1 score (>250) is an asset to your application, it is not the only factor that determines whether you have a decent chance of getting a residency spot as an IMG.

Your USMLE scores are what get your foot through the door. By that logic, you should try and score as high as you can, but if you end up with a 230, it is by no means the end of the world. I know a few programs have a cut-off of 229 so do your best to score above that.

That being said, even if you have an amazing Step 1 score, if you're terrible to work with or can't communicate properly with patients, you will not get a residency spot. The interviews are designed to filter out people who, whilst being book-smart, don't know how to talk to patients. Unfortunately, a lot of IMGs tend to fall into this category.

Other factors programs will look at include US Clinical Experience and amazing LORs (from US surgeons) amongst other things.

So, in summary, whilst it is advantageous to score 240-250, it's not the end of the world if you don't.
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Okay, firstly, whilst having a great Step 1 score (>250) is an asset to your application, it is not the only factor that determines whether you have a decent chance of getting a residency spot as an IMG.

Your USMLE scores are what get your foot through the door. By that logic, you should try and score as high as you can, but if you end up with a 230, it is by no means the end of the world. I know a few programs have a cut-off of 229 so do your best to score above that.

That being said, even if you have an amazing Step 1 score, if you're terrible to work with or can't communicate properly with patients, you will not get a residency spot. The interviews are designed to filter out people who, whilst being book-smart, don't know how to talk to patients. Unfortunately, a lot of IMGs tend to fall into this category.

Other factors programs will look at include US Clinical Experience and amazing LORs (from US surgeons) amongst other things.

So, in summary, whilst it is advantageous to score 240-250, it's not the end of the world if you don't.

Hey thank you so much for posting. Indeed a bit of encouragment. Buti i'd like to hear that more more people as well. Been hearing from everyone that 250+ is a must...Some say step 1 scores matter more than step 2, some say the opposite, so I don't really know... Secondly does a Step 3 pass give you more edge being an IMG? Should an IMG be going for a Step 3 kill before applying for match?
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