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Default SOAP chances?!

I know it's time to ask this question.
Do IMGs actually match in SOAP or is it strictly to AMGs ?
in other words ,what are the chances for IMGs (US-citizens) to get a spot in SOAP ?
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Looks like there are none..I haven't received a call or email yet.. And there is not much time left..
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Looks like there are none..I haven't received a call or email yet.. And there is not much time left..
Looks like it bro\sis.
hypothetically , if someone receives a call ,will that make a big difference?
in other words,how many people do they call for one spot?
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Yup... In fact there was not much left for IM so true it was mostly 1-2 spots.. They prob. Have made their phone calls already I guess..
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Yup... In fact there was not much left for IM so true it was mostly 1-2 spots.. They prob. Have made their phone calls already I guess..
I dont understand.
how many do you think they call for one spot ?
anybody have an answer?

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Default Don't lose hope guys

Today officially starts at 11.30 AM ET. And we have got whole day today.

Besides I was thinking, Can they offer a program without IVs or Phonecalls? I mean purely based on our App materials
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Today officially starts at 11.30 AM ET. And we have got whole day today.

Besides I was thinking, Can they offer a program without IVs or Phonecalls? I mean purely based on our App materials
I was gonna ask about that too.
but still no one answered my question.
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Default No idea bro

I don't exactly know how many for 1 slot.
IMGs do match by SOAP, but its not a lot.
Green card holders have an edge over the Non GC holders


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I was gonna ask about that too.
but still no one answered my question.
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I have a green card n desperately waiting for something.. A miracle to happen..
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Yes, still did not receive any contacts. Really worried for the match this year.
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Does anyone know the deadline for phone/skype interview calls? I wasn't clear on the SOAP schedule. Can they interview till this evening or all the way until Thursday?
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No idea when and how will be contacted. Hope for the best .. But first cycle offer will start Wednesday 12 00 pm.
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calls anyone??? e mails???
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During the twitter chat the NRMP people said that the programs can send emails without contacting the applicants as its up to them to decide. But they would be hiring a stranger so I guess they would at least prefer to take some time so they can call who ever they want to.

I mean, they would have spent most of yesterday just sorting the hordes of applications pouring in as SOAP started.
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the second round is about to end.. good news anyone?
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I think SOAP is a joke for IMGs
the only message I get in my inbox is, if some1 posts in here....
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No news at all. I had one interview the first day about 1 hour after applications went out. I had another interview Tuesday in the afternoon. However, no offers for either round and now there are less than a quarter of the original spots left. btw, I'm an FMG.

I think some programs are not participating in the SOAP even though their spots are technically listed. I've just seen a few prestigious programs list a large number of spots, and then list the same number of spots after round 1, and now at the end of round 2 they are still listing the same number of spots. Looks like they are holding out for post-SOAP plans.

Anyone know about this?
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God knows how they intent to fill them

btw, could u please give us ur credentials? so v know wat gets ppl IVs at least
bcoz v got nothing so far

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No news at all. I had one interview the first day about 1 hour after applications went out. I had another interview Tuesday in the afternoon. However, no offers for either round and now there are less than a quarter of the original spots left. btw, I'm an FMG.

I think some programs are not participating in the SOAP even though their spots are technically listed. I've just seen a few prestigious programs list a large number of spots, and then list the same number of spots after round 1, and now at the end of round 2 they are still listing the same number of spots. Looks like they are holding out for post-SOAP plans.

Anyone know about this?
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God knows how they intent to fill them

btw, could u please give us ur credentials? so v know wat gets ppl IVs at least
bcoz v got nothing so far
Sure. 255(1)/256(1)/CS(1)/2012/No USCE (did have Canadian CE)/J1/Almost no research (undergraduate thesis).
22 IV in neurology (applied to about 100), 0 independent prelims (applied to 70)
ROL was 21 programs long and I had a few associated prelims to rank.
Matched to advanced program (likely my top choice), did not match to its associated prelim. This sounds pretty "shoot-self-in-foot" in retrospect, though I was given multiple assurances at the time and told I was pretty much guaranteed to match to IM. Pay attention when they say "pretty much".

Moral of the story: beware the risks of gambling for a dream.
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you got to be kidding !!!!!
with such scores you have and you did not get into the system.. i don't know then what they are looking for.. i feel like i am done here !!!

the only flaw i see for my application is that i applied pretty late and had only 1 interview !!
239(1)221(1)CS(1) 3 months USCE 2011 graduate.
and i know ppl who actually got matched with scores even lower than 200 in step 1 and not much USCE and required VISA !!!
so i don't know how else to participate in this game for next year.

i thought maybe i'll have a bit of a chance in soap.. but no call no e mail as a matter of fact many programs didn't even bother to download my application.
but i feel for you !!
wish better luck to you and to all for next time.

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Sure. 255(1)/256(1)/CS(1)/2012/No USCE (did have Canadian CE)/J1/Almost no research (undergraduate thesis).
22 IV in neurology (applied to about 100), 0 independent prelims (applied to 70)
ROL was 21 programs long and I had a few associated prelims to rank.
Matched to advanced program (likely my top choice), did not match to its associated prelim. This sounds pretty "shoot-self-in-foot" in retrospect, though I was given multiple assurances at the time and told I was pretty much guaranteed to match to IM. Pay attention when they say "pretty much".

Moral of the story: beware the risks of gambling for a dream.
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So how late was your application?
lets do some post mortem here


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you got to be kidding !!!!!
with such scores you have and you did not get into the system.. i don't know then what they are looking for.. i feel like i am done here !!!

the only flaw i see for my application is that i applied pretty late and had only 1 interview !!
239(1)221(1)CS(1) 3 months USCE 2011 graduate.
and i know ppl who actually got matched with scores even lower than 200 in step 1 and not much USCE and required VISA !!!
so i don't know how else to participate in this game for next year.

i thought maybe i'll have a bit of a chance in soap.. but no call no e mail as a matter of fact many programs didn't even bother to download my application.
but i feel for you !!
wish better luck to you and to all for next time.
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i applied the 1st week of November and continued till the beginning of 2nd week.
may fault was to wait for the results i should not have done that. i should have applied based on whatever i had.
i actually recently saw a lecture in which one of the PD said that
its better to apply with whatever you have and secure an IV. i saw the lecture late
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Default Okay brother cheer up, We learn our mistakes

only 5 months b4 next match, so v got work 2 do
Good luck for next time


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i applied the 1st week of November and continued till the beginning of 2nd week.
may fault was to wait for the results i should not have done that. i should have applied based on whatever i had.
i actually recently saw a lecture in which one of the PD said that
its better to apply with whatever you have and secure an IV. i saw the lecture late
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does anyone know how they fill up the spots after soap? Today as I am looking at the list of unfilled spots on NRMP, the programs that did not participate in soap but had most of their spots unfilled; within an hour they are full. how does that happen? are people just calling in and taking the spots or do they already have pre picked candidates that they know with connections to take those spots? I am speaking specifically of prelim surgical positions because they are the ones with the most left over spots, yet they are being filled up as we speak
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