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Hello Guys..

Congratulations to all those who are matched and best of luck to those who are going to apply.
I am just wondering if someone with extra knowledge could share it with us.
I am currently in the UK, and one of my friends in Core Medical Training told me that once you have completed Core Medical Training in UK and have passed STEP 1, 2 and 3, you can directly apply for year 3 of US residency. is this true?

Any comments are most appreciated.
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Some programs will allow you to omit one / several years of residency if you have completed "a period" of specialty training in the UK- i had asked a program director about this, and it would typically be if you have finished your CMT and have your full MRCP diploma.

Just how much time this might allow you to take out of a residency is very much up to the individual program, and certainly many (probably most) programs will not change their curriculum at all regardless of whatever training you have. Other programs may allow more flexibility in terms of developing a program with more elective/research than clinical work. This is what i had originally planned to do, but then spoke to a different attending who gave the clear impression that, generally, applying earlier is better than waiting around in the UK to finish CMT or whatever. Many programs have cut-off dates for years since graduation as part of their selection criteria.

If you intend to stay in the US permanently you need to successfully complete a residency at an ACGME accredited program. Some people come over and enter directly into fellowship training after completion of CMT etc in the UK, but will not be able to practice in the US after finishing the fellowship.

With the current and future competitiveness of residency posts in the US, i would just be happy to get into one, and not have too many expectations in terms of cutting down the length of it.
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From what i know, regardles of which country you came from, even if you are from UK, you still have to start with PGY1.

ECFMG/ERAS/NRMP and even the program websites never mentioned about any country who can bypass any PGY levels. The match itself foes not allow applying directy to PGY3. ERAS/NRMP only allows applicants to apply to PGY1 and PGY2 advanced programs (for those who have done PGY1 or matched to prelim or transitional progs).

THERE IS NO EXCEPTION TO THIS RULE!!! NOT EVEN CANDIAN GRADS!!!

THE US IS QUITE FAIR. NO SPECIAL CONSIDERATION AND NO SPECIAL TREATMENT TO ANY COUNTRY!!!
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From what i know, regardles of which country you came from, even if you are from UK, you still have to start with PGY1.

ECFMG/ERAS/NRMP and even the program websites never mentioned about any country who can bypass any PGY levels. The match itself foes not allow applying directy to PGY3. ERAS/NRMP only allows applicants to apply to PGY1 and PGY2 advanced programs (for those who have done PGY1 or matched to prelim or transitional progs).

THERE IS NO EXCEPTION TO THIS RULE!!! NOT EVEN CANDIAN GRADS!!!

THE US IS QUITE FAIR. NO SPECIAL CONSIDERATION AND NO SPECIAL TREATMENT TO ANY COUNTRY!!!
This isnt true. Not least of all because the US, in general, is definitely not fair. You need to apply via NRMP to each program at PGY1 level, but a few (not many) programs will allow you to finish the residency in a shorter time or alter the structure of it to take into consideration completion of UK training with a diploma like MRCP.

This was directly from a program director at a university hospital.

The requirements for eligibility to take the board examinations (which are what entitles you to practice after residency) are set out by the ACGME, ABIM, ABFM etc, not NRMP/ECFMG/ERAS, and there are "reciprocity" agreements which can take into consideration training abroad.

For example in family medicine:
https://www.theabfm.org/moc/reciprocityagreements.aspx

Which programs allow you to do this is another matter, but it can be done
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