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Default MPH from USA.. Advices Please?

Hello ppl..


I am an IMG with a low Step 1 socre (in 220s)

I am planning to boost my CV by attempting MPH from any university in USA.

Can any1 plz guide me about what universities to apply? When to start the application procedure? How much it costs? Are there any universities that take IMGs easily?

I would be really really thankful to anyone who can shed any light on this issue.. I am really looking forward for help from the 'senior' members of this forum.
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Don't waste your money on an MPH, it is a useless degree if your goal is to pursue medical residency in the US. Besides being costly, it wont provide you with any clinical experience, which is what PDs usually look for in your CV. On the other hand, an MPH/MBA degree provides a comfortable fall-back cushion should you don't match.
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MPH from a good university would cost about 50k in tuitions. Living expenses extra. Applications to public health schools can be submitted via SOPHAS. Most schools require a GRE score above 300 (new scale) and TOEFL. Most universities will accept international students with good scores. Background in medicine (MD/MBBS) is a plus for getting admission.

However, in my experience, MPH does not add substantially to you residency application. The degree itself means very little when applying to a clinical program. Having said that, an MPH can give you formal training in research methods, provide you opportunities to work with faculty in the affiliated medical school (research), hopefully get a few good first author publications and most importantly allows you to network. Also, if you concentrate/major in Epidemiology or Biostatistics, you can are eligible for a STEM extension on your visa, allowing you to live and work (in a related field) in the US for almost four and a half years. This might give you enough time to beef up your resume and make the necessary connections to get into a residency.

If you have high scores (>250), especially in Step1, no visa requirement, some electives, then apply without a second thought. Worst case, you will not match, but then you know that investing time/money in research is almost necessary.

How ever, you can do research and publish without doing an MPH. (save money). Email faculty in several universities for a research position (usually hard to get, unless you have some connections in the US). But if you do get a position (J1 research, has its own issues), that would get you almost everything that an MPH would, and you would potentially end up saving a lot of money.

Doing MPH does give you a back-up option in case you never match. However, if you can't do without clinical medicine right now, chances are you wouldn't be happy pursuing a career in Public Health.

Public Health in itself is a great career option. If you do all the right things early in your Public Health career, you can have a satisfying and successful career in a number of fields. However, its not clinical medicine, and I don't mean that as a negative thing at all.


I realize that my (unnecessarily) long post may not actually help you to make a decision, but it might provide you with a place to start thinking about what path you want to choose. Good luck!
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Yeah, I would advise you to do unpaid (or nominal pay) research for a year or two and get some publications, plus do observerships with the docs you're researching with. Then get some externships with organizations that help IMGs with getting clinical experience (you can find them if you look around this forum) and get LORs. That's the best chance you can give yourself for residency match.
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I have a different opinion than the other posters. I have seen many physicians with MPH degrees working clinically, and I think it will certainly make you more "integrated" into the American medical system. Unfortunately, there is not data provided on the effect of having a US MPH degree on matching, but it will almost certainly be a plus, especially if from a 'famous' university. I also believe that the residency programs at the university where you obtained your MPH may give you special consideration. Again, this is mostly assumption / heresay, but MPH degree is definitely a viable option to increase match chances.
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I do not believe getting in is very competitive btw, one IMG I met during IV season was getting his MPH from Dartmouth.

If you decide to go this route I would suggest you just research some programs, apply, and then see what your options are.
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Do we get paid or a stipend during MPH..? Pease tell me people...
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Do we get paid or a stipend during MPH..? Pease tell me people...
No, you actually get to pay them a hefty $50,000 in tuition fees
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All the above said is true.
But I feel that if your name is in the final list of possible IV candidates, or final ranking list, the fact that you have a MPH from a good school, can be a decisive factor, specially in Family Medicine.

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