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Default I intend to start a project to help FMGs! Look for people involved! Medical Graduates (AMGs/FMGs) need a FREEDOM SYSTEM! A system rather than this monopoly residency!

I intend to start a project to help FMGs with realistic goals after they obtain ECFMG certificate; they can work as PhAs- physician Associates for a few years then will create a One-year residency for them and they become licensed.

I believe this project would help a lot of FMGs especially when the current residency system is MONOPOLY and EXPENSIVE and very crushing, we need to find a good way for nurture true values and talents instead of oppressing them like the current monopoly residency and ERAS system have been doing for decades and decades.

Remember, the US had never had something called medical licensing until later 1940s'! and now it has become erratic and monopoly and besiege all medical graduates even practicing physicians in this injustice system.


we need to organize so we can become a strong association and we can try to make legislative for our initiative. There have been a couple of times FMGs has petitioned this project to president OBAMA office, but failed because we did not have enough signatures, and we did not do a well organization. Now, we need to prove our potentials, and we stand together to make this real, proving to society that we are a good asset of America!

we try to make our own association to protect our rights!





Medical Graduates (AMGs/FMGs) need a FREEDOM SYSTEM! A system rather than this monopoly residency!

the ERAS system for the NRMP by AAMC is a greedy electronic slaughterhouse.


ironically, they would not say a word in the match about USFMGs/IMGs who are a large sector investment into this slaughterhouse system.

I do not think getting into residency is the ONLY way to become a successful physician who can provide quality of care. The current residency system is pretty much a MONOPOLY system and abusing power of granting or more accurately, stealing from medical graduates (either AMGs or FMGs) their rights of practicing medicine independently!

Anything monopoly is bad!

there should be a more freedom system to give freedom and promote true talents rather than this cynical and oppressing monopoly system!

FMGs should have their own organization. Once they obtain ECFMG certificates, they should be able to work as PhA, physician associates, a mid-level position for 3 to 5 years under supervision of practicing physician to take over the work load; then there should be only ONE MORE YEAR for their residency or WHATEVER training IT SHOULD BE CALLED, just one more year and they become MDs or they can stay at PhAs Physician Associates!


America is an immigrant-based country, it seems those top MDs think they have all the power to manipulate a whole generation of AMGs/FMGs, remember FMGs come here because they are eligible to do USMLEs by accrediting from ACGME international, from Federal Board Medicine of the US, from ECFMG. They are as much qualified as AMGs.


Really, this monopoly system should be seriously changed by a new system that give more freedom to FMGs/AMGs to be able to have different routes for their own career development choices.


Anything monopoly is abusing, and ironically, this system has such "free land" for them to abuse!

Dear guys,

please reply to my opinion, we need to find a way to free ourselves and prove our competency INDEPENDENTLY! to make a REAL DIFFERENCE for medical graduates, and ultimately for communities whom we take care of their well-beings, we should be aware of our own well-beings!

we will initiate the project called Physician Associate to save all and every ECFMG holders, give ourselves a wider and more freedom choices for developing our medical career and be REAL HAPPY !


I need you to stand with me to work out this, please some TRUE ENTHUSIASTIC physicians out there! Either you are AMGs or FMGs, as long as you believe the truth of my message and have the urge to make it happen to make a BIG DIFFERENCE for all of us! PLEASE REPLY ME!
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You are correct! All my friends will support you.
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u say u did ob gy from ur home country and obviously didnt like it and left. now u come to usa and dont like the system here too. so wht do u like. why not talk directly to the ecfmg, residency programs.
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Default i know people often think of me like mad or crazy! does not matter to me! I am not affected by them!

Hello

I indeed still intend to OBGYN here until just a few years now i realize I do not want, but i want to do primary care! I indeed did a lot of volunteer at OBGYN doctors here in the US for many years before I realize I want to turn a new direction!

all what people can think of me why i change to Family practice or internal medicine from OBGYN because OBGYN is more competitive and so i cannot get into it because an old grad with passing scores!

NOPE, my reason is solid for my view and has nothing to do with competitive or OBGYN physicians make more than primary care physicians!

i tell my view, all and each physicians should treat each other with due respect, not just from their outside but deep from their hearts!
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Hello Eleve


i just sent you email, pls check your email!
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Stop posting, you're being offensive at this stage. And you're very identifiable. 10 seconds on google and I have your full real name and location. Whatever your plans are for the future, don't ruin them by publicly complaining about the entire system you want to train in.
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Here is a freedom of speech. Stay calm! Please, be respectful for others opinions.
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Default NAC ! you are the one who should stop or just be polite in your words!

All my posting are not offensive but protecting FMGs rights!

I believe you have arrogance and you may not know your arrogance showing!

I am not affected by your offending to me!

your scores USMLE have nothing to do with your true qualifications or quality as a good physician!

and this system is truly monopoly, there is nothing offensive about telling the truth that people should know and change it for better for EVERY ONE, not just for people of your type!

being trained in a hospital or any medical facility, whatever name it should be makes us better-skilled, but being ADMITTED into this monopoly system with all the current complicating process has nothing to do with improving quality, it only makes people arrogant.....such as you as an example!
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Default some people talking about a machine?

this machine system created long long ago and their creators are expired from this world long ago, they are not here anymore; and they did not leave the "manual" and so the current living people still use the "machine" have a hard time to fix when it become cranking and too much sucking!


that may be "the machine"
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You make almost no sense. And freedom of speech is great, but not when it is totally irrelevant to every thread she posts in. Stop spamming everyone with your personal problems.
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Default NAC, you are offending me and Eveli!

my personal problem? that is really irrelevant to say! intentionally ignore my addressing to all the people involved problem, you may not one of them, so this is nothing to do with you, you can ignore this!


I talk about the monopoly system that affect thousand and thousands of FMGs/AMGs career!

you are really too much, NAC, look at yourself!

I have no more words with you!

say what you say and let other people judge your arrogant attitude!

I am always the same!
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I can't ignore your posts if you keep posting them in every thread. If someone asks for advice on a visa, you go crazy about the ERAS. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but yours gets in the way of other people trying to use this forum for valuable information.
I'm not arrogant at all, which you'd know if you met me. And stop being judgemental because I matched. I haven't said anything about you not matching.
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My information is also valuable and not crazy as your insulting!

The system is monopoly and it needs a change to give freedom for FMGs/AMGs, ths system now leaves thousands and thousands no way to go! and they have to think because of their scores!

you of course think it is good because you are not on the same boat, and you even put your scores that shows your arrogance, you do not have to say you are not arrogant!

I do not listen to what people say good about them, i look at what they do
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definitely, i would not encourage people trying to come here and more than 60% they would also get into trouble, but no better! and they will spend thousands of dollars of their own pockets for what ? for this greedy monopoly system? to make it last longer and mess up people 's future ?

do you know 60% FMGs never match each year? that is almost always about 5,000 to 6,500 people FMGs either US-FMG like me or IMGs! plus 5% to 7% AMGs about 500 to 600 AMGs not matched ! and you know AMGs have much heavier loans !

the system is going wrong, not the FMGs/AMGs !

So NAC, i only tell the truth! the truth is hard to listen, that is why you do not like to hear because you are not the same boat !


I think you graduate 2014 as you put in your information, so you are rather younger than me! I am 42 years old, i do not say I am better than you in every way but at least I have more life experiences than you so you should better think of what you say to me as crazy or your insulting!
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lol...what is this crazy person talking about! Admins need to close this thread and ban lotus.
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maybe you should help me with your knowledge, you may be better in medicine knowledge because you are fresh from medical school, you can help me to realize this project to help thousands of people, and they will thank you!

I start to talk to EVELI now and she seems enthusiastic to do this instead of struggling for another career that is a waste for her life and her background as a medical doctor already from Ukraine! that is great people! they are not get matched, not their mistakes! there are thousands like her, I am also same!

if you continue to attack or reject me, then i have no other words to say to you! you say what you say,

but if you change your mind and want to help us instead, then we can talk more into a group of what we do!
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It just make no sense when person who succeeded in match talking about this post as a scam.
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No, I don't want to join your silly group. Every year a lot of people don't match, that's just life. There are a limited number of training positions, and there are more applicants than positions. It is absolutely insane to think that everyone who applys should get what they want. Every career in the world has some sort of selection process. If I want a job in McDonalds tomorrow, I'll have to compete for that position. Medicine is no different. You call me arrogant, but you're the one who believes you're entitled to absolutely anything you want, whereas I recognise I need to work hard for it. You think that the entire US system, which is extremely fair, should change because you're not a good applicant. I see your view as far more arrogant.
I want to be an astronaut, but I'm pretty sure I won't get into astronaut training because I'm not competitive enough. It doesn't mean I'm going to start a crusade against NASA.
Lastly, you keep saying my opinion is invalid because I have matched, and that i will obviously defend the system. That makes no sense. Using the same logic, I could say that your opinion is invalid because you didn't match, and you will obviously complain about the system. I am giving an honest opinion about a system I think is very fair. You are making absolutely no sense talking about a system you have a personal problem with.
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10 seconds on google and I have your full real name and location.
Wow, how can you do this
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Because she has posted information which links to her online professional profile. I couldn't do it on you. My point is that she's not anonymous, and she should really stop accusing ERAS of being criminals in public.
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No, I don't want to join your silly group. Every year a lot of people don't match, that's just life. There are a limited number of training positions, and there are more applicants than positions. It is absolutely insane to think that everyone who applys should get what they want. Every career in the world has some sort of selection process. If I want a job in McDonalds tomorrow, I'll have to compete for that position. Medicine is no different. You call me arrogant, but you're the one who believes you're entitled to absolutely anything you want, whereas I recognise I need to work hard for it. You think that the entire US system, which is extremely fair, should change because you're not a good applicant. I see your view as far more arrogant.
I want to be an astronaut, but I'm pretty sure I won't get into astronaut training because I'm not competitive enough. It doesn't mean I'm going to start a crusade against NASA.
Lastly, you keep saying my opinion is invalid because I have matched, and that i will obviously defend the system. That makes no sense. Using the same logic, I could say that your opinion is invalid because you didn't match, and you will obviously complain about the system. I am giving an honest opinion about a system I think is very fair. You are making absolutely no sense talking about a system you have a personal problem with.
So well explained!! You must be a really patient person for even trying to explain the complexity of the match process and how the world works...You are not an arrogant person in any way..This person is trying to distract people from what they should focusing on, how to improve their application.
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