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Question What defines old IMG ?

Hi guys, what defines someone as an old medical graduate ? Is it the number of years elapsed since he/she graduated with MD or since he/she was out of medical practice, let say I graduated in 2009 and spent another 1 years in residency in my country, am I called an old IMG by the time I apply for 2012 match ? Is that one year residency experience not counted as medical training ?
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That's a good question.

There's no clear answer to it unfortunately.

The issue here is that some residency programs put filters into their ERAS access portal.

For example, they put a filter so that all those graduated more than three years ago are filtered out. As such, they don't distinguish between someone who actually has been practicing all those three years from the other who has been out of touch all those years.

Logically, and ethically speaking. They should go by the gaps in your CV to say that you are "old" or that you are up to date in your practice and they should not discriminate merely by the year of graduation.

Unfortunately, in reality, they rely on that filter I mentioned above. To a certain extent, we can justify what they are doing, This is because each year they receive thousands and thousands of applications and they don't have the manpower to sift through these applications and therefore they have to use an electronic filter.

On the other hand, there are programs that do not put a filter and therefore your practice and training will be counted and you won't be considered "old" even if you have 10 years after graduation.

Also, you can bypass the filter, if you have connections in the program. Your friend can tell the coordinator to include your application for review and when the selection committee see that you have not been out of practice all those years, they'll like you and they won't then be considering the year after graduation as a negative factor.
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Thanks StepTaker for your answer. I graduated in Nov 2008, will it cause a big difference if I apply this year (for 2012 match) vs next year (2013 match) ? I can apply this year but my application will be less competitve since I havent secured USCE and LOR yet (though I am struggling to get one now).
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4 years after graduation versus 5 years after graduation does not make a big difference.
But US LoRs does make a difference.
Therefore, if your LoR won't be ready until the match after then I suggest you don't apply this match.

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http://www.usmle-forums.com/residenc...apply-not.html
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Thanks a lot !!! Anyway how do they count the year since graduation ? Is it from the time you apply for residency or the year of Match ?

eg. Graduate in 2009, apply in 2011 (for match 2012) --> 2 years or 3 years since graduation ?
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The time you apply. Because it's the time when the filter is applied!
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is there a great difference between two years since graduation and 3 years since graduation?
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StepTaker, you are a real help in almost all the threads... thanks for that.

I graduated in 2003, then completed my internship in 2004. 7 years after that !! I have to be old IMG. I have worked mostly in internal medicine wards. What are my chances?

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StepTaker, you are a real help in almost all the threads... thanks for that.

I graduated in 2003, then completed my internship in 2004. 7 years after that !! I have to be old IMG. I have worked mostly in internal medicine wards. What are my chances?

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You'll have good chances if you get high USMLE scores.

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is there a great difference between two years since graduation and 3 years since graduation?
I'd also like to hear some inputs on this question here...

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No there's not much difference between two and three years after graduation.

Most residency programs put up the three years cut off rather than the two years cut off.

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