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Question IMG graduation issue...

Most IMGs from India and Pakistan do internship in their home country after graduation. Then usually they do 1 or 2 years of specialization and after visa problems, it almost takes them to around 4 or 5 years after graduation.....I have heard that most programs accept applicants within 5 year range, it means these IMGs are already ineligible from many many programs...its absurd from an IMG point of view....
One more point. I have seen some programs saying GRADUATION DATE MUST BE UNDER 5 YEARS..but other programs say GRADUATION DATE UNDER 5 YEAR IS PREFERABLE...tell me whether programs may become lenient on graduation date matter????
If u have connections, can a 6 year old graduate enter in that program?
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I disagree with that statement. More and more "fresh" graduates from overseas are coming to USA right after graduation or internship, because they learned the trick, the sooner you come, the easier you get in.
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One more point. I have seen some programs saying GRADUATION DATE MUST BE UNDER 5 YEARS..but other programs say GRADUATION DATE UNDER 5 YEAR IS PREFERABLE...tell me whether programs may become lenient on graduation date matter????
If u have connections, can a 6 year old graduate enter in that program?
Yes, you are right. If they mentioned "preferred" or "desired" then it means they are not so strict about it.
The main issue here, is not the years since graduation, it's the gaps in your CV. Many programs will end up asking you "when did you last work as a doctor?" rather than asking you "when did you graduate?".
If you have connections, you can get into residency, even if they have said "MUST BE" yeah, seriously, connection is stronger than any statement in their website.
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what u think approximately how many programs out of total are without any graduation cut off????any guess plz........
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what u think approximately how many programs out of total are without any graduation cut off????any guess plz........
If I want to take a wild guess I'd say 30-40% of the IMG friendly programs do not have graduation cut off criteria.
But, there's no rule. Program differ from specialty to another, from state to state, and even the same program may change criteria from year to year.
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Oh... This is the same problem im facing..! I wud like to cme to US aft doing MD, in my home country... Nd by then it wud be minimum 4 yrs aft graduation..!
Bt i think PD wil take my MD as my experience, it proves that i was in clinical touch..! Thats d only positive thing i can get...!!
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Hi Ashishnet007
If you are an old graduate don't restrict your application to YOG criteria or even score criteria otherwise you will get minimum interviews, if any! In last couple of years many applicants were getting interviews from programs where they don't meet their criteria.
There are many factors that favours one application on the other regardless criteria including:
-previous residency back home (especially peds and psych)
-continious clinical experience (especially IM and FM)
-USCE and research
-no need for visa, which is one of the most important factors that was influencing interviews in the last 2 years.
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Yes, you are right. If they mentioned "preferred" or "desired" then it means they are not so strict about it.
The main issue here, is not the years since graduation, it's the gaps in your CV. Many programs will end up asking you "when did you last work as a doctor?" rather than asking you "when did you graduate?".
If you have connections, you can get into residency, even if they have said "MUST BE" yeah, seriously, connection is stronger than any statement in their website.
StepTaker, how about an old graduate (around 5 years past graduation) applying to be Matched after finishing a masters degree (ex. public health)? Will this be big plus? Or will this depend on the kind of residency program?
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StepTaker, how about an old graduate (around 5 years past graduation) applying to be Matched after finishing a masters degree (ex. public health)? Will this be big plus? Or will this depend on the kind of residency program?
MPH will be a big plus in your profile.

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Hi sabio i am an img graduated in 2009
step1 score 200
have to take step2 CK and CS
now i have plans to do USCE(externship) in family medicine for 4 months and 1 month in peds as that is only choice for me now i think

Since i have only 6 months for CS+CK+USCE
i can not do all of it in 6 months(as i did 1 year for step1 and got only 200)

my question is i have two plans now

PLAN A) apply for match in family medicine+Peds this year with passed CS in first attempt But may be really low score again in CK

PLAN B) apply next year for Family medicine+Peds after doing enough prep for Ck and doing research+volunteer and other stuff i can do till next match

What you guys think is worth and wise

THANKS
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I have my year of graduation on my school certificate dec 2004 but in my country we have obligatory year like transitional year so i wrote yog 2006 according to a friend advice -a cheif resident-
Most PD in my IV didnt comment on that and they accepted the number 2006
Except one who asked me to clarify that and he accepted my answer- i hope he believed me
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Hi sabio i am an img graduated in 2009
step1 score 200
have to take step2 CK and CS
now i have plans to do USCE(externship) in family medicine for 4 months and 1 month in peds as that is only choice for me now i think

Since i have only 6 months for CS+CK+USCE
i can not do all of it in 6 months(as i did 1 year for step1 and got only 200)

my question is i have two plans now

PLAN A) apply for match in family medicine+Peds this year with passed CS in first attempt But may be really low score again in CK

PLAN B) apply next year for Family medicine+Peds after doing enough prep for Ck and doing research+volunteer and other stuff i can do till next match

What you guys think is worth and wise

THANKS
get a high CK score, 200 is not enough for FM or PEDS/

PEDS and FM are very competitive since, everyone I know with 230+ is going for them.

DO NOT SELL YOUR SELF SHORT. apply with high scores.
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Thanks shima i really appreciate it.
Seriously 230+ for Fam/Peds..
dang its really scary dude.
i have to get all possible stuff to improve my cv then
like LORs,USCE,VOLUNTEER etc
so you are saying i go with plan B and apply after scoring good on Ck..
ok lets see and thanks for reply
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Thanks shima i really appreciate it.
Seriously 230+ for Fam/Peds..
dang its really scary dude.
i have to get all possible stuff to improve my cv then
like LORs,USCE,VOLUNTEER etc
so you are saying i go with plan B and apply after scoring good on Ck..
ok lets see and thanks for reply
you need to aim for 260+. yes, apply with your CK score. study for a month do a self assessment.

also try not to fail, this is not a race, everyone will be a doctor sooner , but some later.
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Having connections definitely helps.. You can also pay for these connections

You can enroll for an entire year in many programs.. There's free programs and there's paid ones - it really depends on where you look at what research you do

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Having connections definitely helps.. You can also pay for these connections

You can enroll for an entire year in many programs.. There's free programs and there's paid ones - it really depends on where you look at what research you do
i paid significant amount of money for externship in peds and FM as i am already a graduate so can not do electives or internship
PLEASE tell me what defines connections and how to get em?
i mean i will be in touch with 5 different physicians within 5 months period and definitely gona get LOR
but how exactly connections really help? AND what is meant by connections.
Thanks
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i paid significant amount of money for externship in peds and FM as i am already a graduate so can not do electives or internship
PLEASE tell me what defines connections and how to get em?
i mean i will be in touch with 5 different physicians within 5 months period and definitely gona get LOR
but how exactly connections really help? AND what is meant by connections.
Thanks

that is very good. work on the marks now
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Shims is it advisable. To. Do home. Country internship if u are a us citizen and its not related to getting your diploma or do start studying. For usmle by moving to the usa for cv improvement .what your advise
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Shims is it advisable. To. Do home. Country internship if u are a us citizen and its not related to getting your diploma or do start studying. For usmle by moving to the usa for cv improvement .what your advise
This is one thing I do not know. Sabio/StepTaker should shed a light.
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