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Hi guys,

What are the US medical school that accept international medical schools for electives students I didn't find any school so far!!

And I heard that I have to learn Spanish and take the step 1 before my elective! is that true??

PLZZ someone help me
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You definitely don't have to speak Spanish at most places. Some places require Step 1, but not necessarily.

I went to Tulane, but the administrative guy there is hard to reach sometimes.

There are lots of other schools that also accept overseas students, but they have specific requirements that I wasn't able to meet.

If you don't mind paying a bit more, you could also try Brown, Harvard, UCLA, UCSD, and some others. They always accept a lot of international students.
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You definitely don't have to speak Spanish at most places. Some places require Step 1, but not necessarily.

I went to Tulane, but the administrative guy there is hard to reach sometimes.

There are lots of other schools that also accept overseas students, but they have specific requirements that I wasn't able to meet.

If you don't mind paying a bit more, you could also try Brown, Harvard, UCLA, UCSD, and some others. They always accept a lot of international students.



thanks man really helpful
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ALBANY MEDICAL COLLEGE (AMC), ALBANY, NEW YORK
Located in the capital of New York State, Albany, this institutions provides Free electives to foreign and international students. Academic and teaching depends upon the Consultant or Visiting physician with whom you will be associated during your rotation. It all depends upon your physician that how he uses you or to some extent that how you make yourself useful by your knowledge, interest and hard work. It provides electives in all the departments of the college.
KNOWN PROBLEMS:
1) The college does not provide accommodation of its own, you will have to find one for yourself.
2) The institute is not among the top most institutes of USA, so you may get visa rejection.
3) AMC also requires you, like all other institutes of New york to get a letter of eligibility from NY state education department. This is not a big problem and you can easily get that letter following instructions for that in the specific folder.
4) AMC also states in the policy that you need to send along with your application an English Language certificate from your college.

UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT SCHOOL OF MEDICINE
They also don’t have any fee, and have a reputed hospital named, Hartford Hospital. You may need to be very quick to apply there, because they stop taking applications very early.
KNOWN PROBLEM
They state the policy of accepting the foreign students, but sometime they dont even respond on the emails.

INSTITUTIONS THAT DON’T HAVE ANY FEE BUT REQUIRE TOEFL FOR ELECTIVES
If you plan to take on toefl then it will open many institutes for you, likewise:
NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF HEALTH(NIH):
It does not have a medical school of its own, so its not mentioned in the website of extramural electives compendiu but it is a very highly reputed institute with programs associations with many top medical schools including John Hopkins etc. and has a wide variety of research programs.
Moreover the application procedure is simple, you have to send application electronically through their website. Then, you will have to send your transcript and LOR s by mail.
You will also have to give valid email address of one of your college faculty members and the email ID of Dean of Faculty/ Registrar for your reference. They will send the confirmation emails to those email IDs, and they must get the reply back to confirm your reference or your application will not process.
ADVANTAGE:

* It is widely known for its research projects and you can get one if you impress your consultant during your elective.
* They don’t give their own housing but aid you by giving a list of available housings in the vicinity.

UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE SCHOOL OF MEDICINE:
A very good institute and provides all the electives free without any cost.
Last year, they stated the policy on their website about the requirement of TOEFL.
But, recently few students got electives there without even taking the TOEFL. You can send a email to their elective co-ordinator stating that the medium of instruction in your institute is in English and that you will send a letter for that proof along with your application. So, you can take your chance and if luck goes you may get exempted from toefl.
Remember, these requirements or pre requisites are only to be checked by the elective coordinator and if somehow you succeed in convincing, you can get yourself exempted from these requirements.

* GOOD INSTITUTES THAT DON’T HAVE ANY FEES OR VERY LITTLE FEES, REQUIRES USMLE STEP 1 BUT CAN EXEMPT THIS REQUIREMENT
MOUNT SINAI SCHOOL OF MEDICINE:
This institute owns few of the top hospitals in USA. Along with Cornell, it is one of the best medical schools in NY state. They have some application fee around 250-300 dollars.
They can exempt you from USMLE Step 1 if you send them such a waiver from registrar or any faculty member requesting for your exemption from step 1.
They don’t require any sponsor.
Known Problem
They demand J1 visa for their electives , which is more difficult to get than B1/B2 visa. Moreover some people say you get a 2 year country restriction. However I am not sure about it.
* Anyways, you can overcome this problem by getting visa on the basis of letter of another university you are going for electives before or after this Mount Sinai elective. Once you are in USA, you can do electives in Mount Sinai.

HENRY FORD HOSPITAL, DETROIT
It has a number of hospitals in the Michigan state, which have good reputation.
They can also exempt you from USMLE step 1 on sending exemption letter and also provide you with housing on payment.
They need you to have a sponsor from any of their faculty members before you can apply there.
To see 'how to get a sponsor' click here.

UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT DALLAS
They have some affiliation with UHS of Pakistan. You can also try your luck there. You can only apply in the departments of INTERNAL MEDICINE in this institute.
SOME OTHER INSTITUTES THAT DON’T REQUIRE USMLE STEP 1 BUT HAVE SOME FEES:
SUNY DOWNSTATE MEDICAL COLLEGE. NEW YORK:
They have 170 dollars application fees with 30 $ of NY letter. They provide accommodation to visiting students on payment.
KNOWN PROBLEMS
They send the acceptance letter quite late. For example, If you want to apply for march electives, your acceptance letter may come after January. So, your letter may be too late for visa.
They also need letter of eligibility from NY, State Education Department.
UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, AT GALVESTON:
They have some application fees around 200 dollars.
But the problem is that they require you to come on F1 or student visa. F1 visa is usually of very limited time and the problem may arise if you also want to do other electives.
Again, you can get visa on the basis of some other university letter.

UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT, SCHOOL OF MEDICINE:
They only have a 100 dollars fee and have no particular requirement. They don’t require toefl from students who come from a medical school where medium of instruction is English.
KNOWN PROBLEM:
They don’t provide electives for the month of March and April.

TULANE UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MEDICINE:
They have a 300 dollars application fees plus 300 dollars tution fees.
KNOWN PROBLEM:
They have not been accepting too much students since the hurricane in their area, so your 300 dollars fees is at risk.

INSTITUTES THAT REQUIRE USMLE 1 AND HAVE VERY LITTLE OR NO FEES
If you have already taken USMLE step 1, then you just need to sit back and relax. Now, you have many many institutes open for you. Majority of the institutes have this requirement, so you have no shortage of options…….

Such institutes are:
CLEVELAND CLINIC is the best hospital in USA. It provides free electives and free accommodation.
MAYO CLINIC is the 2nd best, with 300 to 400 dollars application fees.
Other institutes are:
University of Cincinnati
University of Alabama
Albert Einstein college of medicine (only have 25 dollars fees)
Louisiana state university
Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine
Wayne State University and many more…….

* WELL-REPUTED INSTITUTES WHOSE BIGGEST REQUIREMENT IS THEIR FEES
If you are ready to pay their fees, then again you have no shortage of elective institutes.
YALE UNIVERSITY:
Their total fees is 3500 dollars with accommodation and malpractice and health insurance also included.
Weil Cornell Medical College
They have 2200 dollars tuition fees without accommodation with 100 dollars application fees.
HARVARD UNIVERSITY
Very expensive…….fees of 3100 dollars.

* Or: http://umartariq.com/node/18

(internet sources)

*I just copy paste the info from the blogs of some Pakistani/Indian students. Hope it helps you somehow.
*Some info are old and you need to check the original sources/homepages... but the general idea is the same,ie submitting your credits, waiting for acceptance, and trying to get the Letter of Recommendation (LORs) at the end of the electives... It takes quite a bit of time to check the Uni homepage, contact them via emails (for example if they don't say step1 is an absolute requirement...). You don't need to take a Toefl test if your institution's teaching language is English.

* this may be even more helpful:
Complete List of Clinical Electives for International Medical Students

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Many of this, is wrong info.. For example: cleveland clinic required 400$ for international students + toefil + 220 step1 min score...
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