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Default Electives list for international medical students

There are a number of good websites that provide information about the available elective opportunities for international medical students but frequently they are not updated. I am starting this thread so that it could be useful for others who are looking for possible elective opportunites. Please feel free to edit and update the list with the programs that you have participated in or know of as it will be helpful for others. Search for the requirements on each of these in their respective sites as the information is constantly updated for each academic year. List does not include electives which require formal affiliation or facutly sponsor for approval.

1. Harvard Medical School Exchange Clerkship
2. Tufts medical electives
3. UMass Advanced Student Electives : international students
4. Mayo Clinic Visting Medical Student Clerkship Program
5. Cleveland Clinic Elective Program
6. Visting student elective Program at CRWU School of Medicine
7. Visting international student electives at Weill Cornell
8. VIMS elective at Yale School of Medicine
9. International electives program at UNC School of Medicine
10. Visting medical students at UT Southwestern
11. Visting student at Johns Hopkins Medicine (research elective only)
12. Electives at UT health science center at San Antonio
13. Visting medical electives at University of Florida
14. Elective Program at Memorial Sloan Kettering
15. Visiting medical students at Stanford University (to be started soon for international students)
16. Brown VIMS at Alpert Medical School
17. Visiting senior students at UC San Diego school of medicine
18. Extern at University of Colorado Denver
19. Elective program at Emory University
20. Cook county international student clerkships
21. NIH clinical electives program
22. VIMS at Henry Ford Hospital, Michigan
23. Electives at SUNY Downstate Medical Center
24. Short term electives at Unisersity of Kansas Medical Center
25. McGovern Medical School electives
26. Ichan Hill School of Medicine at Mount Sinai electives
27. Thomas Jefferson University elecitves
28. Visiting medical students at Duke University
29. International visiting students at University of Illinois College of Medicine
30. BU International Student Elective Program

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thank you for replying to my queries, i saw your list for the electives as well, do you think the universities or hospitals you mentioned above provide observerships. Currently im not eligible for official electives, but im trying to arrange something seeing that hands on experience is preferred.

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thank you for replying to my queries, i saw your list for the electives as well, do you think the universities or hospitals you mentioned above provide observerships. Currently im not eligible for official electives, but im trying to arrange something seeing that hands on experience is preferred.

thank you
Sadly I don't know an extensive lot of places for observerships as I did electives. But there are a lot of places. Try and find observerships in university hospitals or good community hospitals (either via contacts or directly applying or requesting attendings to sponsor you). You can search FREIDA online as lot of residency programs provide info on their observership policy on their website.
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Its a good list, covers most of the places that offer electives right now.
But Tufts stopped taking international students since last year. I am positive about that as my aunt works there. She tried to get me an elective but they closed down the program due to the increasing volume of applicants.
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Tufts does require formal affiliation.
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Can someone tell me if I want to apply for august-sept. period where I should apply ? I cleared step 1 couple of months ago but tried email many unvi. hospitals they have told me i am too late for that period. so where i should i try now ?

what about UT health science center at San Antonio and UC San Diego school of medicine ? i didn't hear back from them.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
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Can someone tell me if I want to apply for august-sept. period where I should apply ? I cleared step 1 couple of months ago but tried email many unvi. hospitals they have told me i am too late for that period. so where i should i try now ?

what about UT health science center at San Antonio and UC San Diego school of medicine ? i didn't hear back from them.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
Most of the places need you to apply 6 months in advance. Getting an elective in August-September period is a little difficult as well as US medical students love doing their rotations during the fall and u will only be scheduled after them. Getting electives in winter (Oct to next year Feb) is relatively more easier.
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Most of the places need you to apply 6 months in advance. Getting an elective in August-September period is a little difficult as well as US medical students love doing their rotations during the fall and u will only be scheduled after them. Getting electives in winter (Oct to next year Feb) is relatively more easier.
yeah exactly, that's the big headache. Anyways thank you.
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Thank you for the list it is very helpful.

Anyone know if the hospitals above offer only Clinical Electives or if they offer Core Clinical Rotations too?

Which hospitals do not have a limit to the number of weeks an IMG can stay for?

Has anyone tried one of the paid clerkship services? How much can you expect to spend on such a service? How has your experience been with these services?
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Thank you for the list it is very helpful.

Anyone know if the hospitals above offer only Clinical Electives or if they offer Core Clinical Rotations too?

Which hospitals do not have a limit to the number of weeks an IMG can stay for?

Has anyone tried one of the paid clerkship services? How much can you expect to spend on such a service? How has your experience been with these services?
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US medical schools only offer clinical electives for international students. Core rotations are only for domestic students.

Every hospital has a limit for the number for weeks u can spent. Mostly its between 2-4 months.

Paid clerkships are okay but try to find university electives first as they are a lot better
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Hi,
thank you for replying to my queries, i saw your list for the electives as well, do you think the universities or hospitals you mentioned above provide observerships. Currently im not eligible for official electives, but im trying to arrange something seeing that hands on experience is preferred.

thank you
I have recently got in contact with my seniors from manipal medical who are doing observerships and externships all over the states. they have provided me with details of whom they went through and how much they paid to get these rotations. message me for info. glad to help.
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US medical schools only offer clinical electives for international students. Core rotations are only for domestic students.
Really? I see plenty of electives in FM, IM, Ob/Gyn. Those are core.
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Really? I see plenty of electives in FM, IM, Ob/Gyn. Those are core.
Not sure what/where you are looking, but in US medical terms
Core rotation or core clerkship = IM, peds, surgery, obgyn. Done in 3rd year of medical school
Electives/clerkships = sub-speciality rotations done in 4th year of medical school.
International students are ONLY eligible for electives and not eligble for core rotations.
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I would like to do an elective in november-december. But most universities don't seem to have a set deadline. I'm a little bit worried they will just tell me they don't have a spot and I'll waste all the fees. I would like to do a Medicine related elective (gastro, hematology, infectology, anything really). My USMLE score will only be available in mid august.

I've read Weill and NIH are supercompetitve and prolly a waste of time for me, especially since I'll be applying a little bit late. Any other place I should cross out of my list ?
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Also, most universities ask international medical students to apply months earlier than US students. Why is that ?
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I would like to do an elective in november-december. But most universities don't seem to have a set deadline. I'm a little bit worried they will just tell me they don't have a spot and I'll waste all the fees. I would like to do a Medicine related elective (gastro, hematology, infectology, anything really). My USMLE score will only be available in mid august.

I've read Weill and NIH are supercompetitve and prolly a waste of time for me, especially since I'll be applying a little bit late. Any other place I should cross out of my list ?
It depends on which place you are interested in doing. Selection for electives is mostly based on luck as far as I know. I know people who had scores in 260s and did not get electives to the places they applied while others who scored in 220-230s did electives in places like Mayo. Also, you might have to apply to a good number of places to get accepted in one or two. I applied to 8 places and got selected in one. Its a waste of application fee but unless you get really lucky and get selected where you apply on the first shot, there is no other way around it. Places ask you to apply early because the scheduling for electives is done well in advance at most medical schools. This holds true for both US and international students who wish to do visiting electives at other places. If you want to do electives in November or December, I would start applying 6 months early ideally from now.

The most important thing is to apply when it is less competitive for international applicants, i.e. from November to March/April. Its tough to get electives in summer and fall as US medical students like to do electives during this time and international applicants are only scheduled after domestic candidates take their pick. US medical students from same medical school are given 1st preference, followed by US medical students from other medical schools who apply via VSAS and finally to international medical students. Its US, so only fair that they give preference to their students before considering other applicants.

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It depends on which place you are interested in doing. Selection for electives is mostly based on luck as far as I know. I know people who had scores in 260s and did not get electives to the places they applied while others who scored in 220-230s did electives in places like Mayo. Also, you might have to apply to a good number of places to get accepted in one or two. I applied to 8 places and got selected in one. Its a waste of application fee but unless you get really lucky and get selected where you apply on the first shot, there is no other way around it. Places ask you to apply early because the scheduling for electives is done well in advance at most medical schools. This holds true for both US and international students who wish to do visiting electives at other places. If you want to do electives in November or December, I would start applying 6 months early ideally from now.

The most important thing is to apply when it is less competitive for international applicants, i.e. from November to March/April. Its tough to get electives in summer and fall as US medical students like to do electives during this time and international applicants are only scheduled after domestic candidates take their pick. US medical students from same medical school are given 1st preference, followed by US medical students from other medical schools who apply via VSAS and finally to international medical students. Its US, so only fair that they give preference to their students before considering other applicants.
Thanks for the feedback, actually made me think about other possibilities (I didn't even know Yale didn't have an application fee), especially since Harvard now says the new curriculum will make it difficult to get accepted in October-December.

I guess I'll try Harvard, Yale, cleveland, unc, Emory, Henry Ford, maybe send email to departments in Denver or Sunny if all else fails. Then pray to get accepted.

Anyways, applied to 8 and only got 1 acceptance... that doesn't sound encouraging . Which months did you pick ?
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Thanks for the feedback, actually made me think about other possibilities (I didn't even know Yale didn't have an application fee), especially since Harvard now says the new curriculum will make it difficult to get accepted in October-December.

I guess I'll try Harvard, Yale, cleveland, unc, Emory, Henry Ford, maybe send email to departments in Denver or Sunny if all else fails. Then pray to get accepted.

Anyways, applied to 8 and only got 1 acceptance... that doesn't sound encouraging . Which months did you pick ?
I had applied for November to Jan period. Maybe you will have more luck than I did.

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Brown Alpert is not accepting International students for 2016-17 year.
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Just an update to the list, Florida International University also seems to accept IMS. (unless I missed something)
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if i start applying for electives in october .. which months can i choose for? will i be accepted for march- april or shuld i go for may-june???
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if i start applying for electives in october .. which months can i choose for? will i be accepted for march- april or shuld i go for may-june???
Depends entirely on luck. My friend applied with her step 1 score in October/November and she was able to secure electives in good places like Mayo. Avoid July to September if you can, as they tennd to be harder to get (though not true always)
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if i start applying for electives in october .. which months can i choose for? will i be accepted for march- april or shuld i go for may-june???
U will be applying for May- June only......deadlines for most of the electives in the spring is around August .....
U can check the individual websites...but this is how it is in most of the cases....
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if i start applying for electives in october .. which months can i choose for? will i be accepted for march- april or shuld i go for may-june???
I guess it would make sense to apply for March April to places which would accept you applying in October (about 5-8 programs). Then apply for the others for May-June.
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Depends entirely on luck. My friend applied with her step 1 score in October/November and she was able to secure electives in good places like Mayo. Avoid July to September if you can, as they tennd to be harder to get (though not true always)
may i know your was friend's score??
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may i know your was friend's score??
She got 235.....
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Hi I am an IMG from India, will give step 1 in October and want to apply for an elective in January 2017. Can you please tell me, what are the prerequisites? Do I need TOEFL?
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Hey guys I applied for a clinical elective in Mayo in October-November. Are my chances good? I also applied for Memorial in January 2017 and got accepted in Cleveland Clinic in November-December!
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Hi I am an IMG from India, will give step 1 in October and want to apply for an elective in January 2017. Can you please tell me, what are the prerequisites? Do I need TOEFL?
Thanks.
It depends but TOEFL would be a great help cause most programs require it (Mayo Clinic, Cleveland etc). Other criteria frequently asked are to be in your final year of your medical school and to have completed all your core clerkships.
Oh and also to have money
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Hi guys! Has anyone applied to UNC elective for the block 5 and 6 times? Has anyone heard anything back from them with regard to scheduling??
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Hi I am an IMG from India, will give step 1 in October and want to apply for an elective in January 2017. Can you please tell me, what are the prerequisites? Do I need TOEFL?
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dnt u need to apply 6months ahead????
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For the Florida elective rotations, can I safely ignore the information here? http://www.fldoe.org/policy/cie/fore...hips-in-f.stml

Most schools don't even mention this website as a requirement for the rotations (only Mayo mentions it). Also, the "list of licensed institutions" don't exist.

I imagine this does not get enforced, does anyone have any input about this? Anyone did an elective in Florida?
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Also, has anyone applied to Harvard requesting more than 1 month? I would like to apply for EITHER November or December electives. However the application process makes me think that they will consider I want both months if I tick both boxes.
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Hey, Im a 5th year medical student studying in jordan and planning on doing a neurology elective during june/july of 2017 ! I was thinking of applying to Weil Cornell and Mount Sinai since they dont require the USMLE step 1 exam nor an affiliation with the university. What do you think of those two choices ? is there any better option ? If i apply would they accept me ? and when do i need to apply ?! I would really appreciate your help ! & any advice is more than welcomed !!!
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Hey, Im a 5th year medical student studying in jordan and planning on doing a neurology elective during june/july of 2017 ! I was thinking of applying to Weil Cornell and Mount Sinai since they dont require the USMLE step 1 exam nor an affiliation with the university. What do you think of those two choices ? is there any better option ? If i apply would they accept me ? and when do i need to apply ?! I would really appreciate your help ! & any advice is more than welcomed !!!
Hey....it is best to apply 8-9 months in advance for Mt.Sinai as soon as application for the block opens up. The same applies to Weil Cornell also. So, u should start the process now itself getting all the required documents like transcripts, vaccination titres, etc.. so that as soon as the application opens, u can send it immediately. You can also apply to Harvard. Since in most of the places it is based on first come first serve basis, applying the earliest gives you a better chance.
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Hey, Im a 5th year medical student studying in jordan and planning on doing a neurology elective during june/july of 2017 ! I was thinking of applying to Weil Cornell and Mount Sinai since they dont require the USMLE step 1 exam nor an affiliation with the university. What do you think of those two choices ? is there any better option ? If i apply would they accept me ? and when do i need to apply ?! I would really appreciate your help ! & any advice is more than welcomed !!!
Hey....it is best to apply 8-9 months in advance for Mt.Sinai as soon as application for the block opens up. The same applies to Weil Cornell also. So, u should start the process now itself getting all the required documents like transcripts, vaccination titres, etc.. so that as soon as the application opens, u can send it immediately. You can also apply to Harvard. Since in most of the places it is based on first come first serve basis, applying the earliest gives you a better chance.
Well if you visit mount siani elective webpage it says "As of August 1, 2016, we are no longer accepting applications for Academic Year 2016?17. Applications for Academic Year 2017?18, will be accepted from January 1, 2017?August 1, 2017." But it also states that applications need to be submitted aprxm. 8 months prior to the elective date, so what do i do ? And i want to ask you if the tofel is a must, because i took the cambridge IGCSE system and im currently studying in english, so do i still need the tofel ?
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Hey, Im a 5th year medical student studying in jordan and planning on doing a neurology elective during june/july of 2017 ! I was thinking of applying to Weil Cornell and Mount Sinai since they dont require the USMLE step 1 exam nor an affiliation with the university. What do you think of those two choices ? is there any better option ? If i apply would they accept me ? and when do i need to apply ?! I would really appreciate your help ! & any advice is more than welcomed !!!
Those are great options, Cornell is super competitive though.
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Hi guys! Has anyone applied to UNC elective for the block 5 and 6 times? Has anyone heard anything back from them with regard to scheduling??
Yeah with a rejection they said we can reconsider you, if you have a major change in CV or anything. So I guess it's pretty competitive
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I wanted to get some advice. I want to apply for the Cook County International Clerkship Program between mid-February/Early March to May 2017. It will be my first time to apply for an international clerkship.

I contacted cook county and they said I have to contact the department people where I am interested to do an elective to see if they have availability. My question is how should I approach these people at the department? Should I send a simple email describing myself and ask if there is an opportunity available during these months (or when the opportunity is available) or should I write a short, to the point cover letter describing my experience of the electives I have done in my country and attach my cv to it?

I am new at this and I don't want to blow away my opportunity since I am not exactly sure the proper etiquette of how to approach them. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
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I wanted to get some advice. I want to apply for the Cook County International Clerkship Program between mid-February/Early March to May 2017. It will be my first time to apply for an international clerkship.

I contacted cook county and they said I have to contact the department people where I am interested to do an elective to see if they have availability. My question is how should I approach these people at the department? Should I send a simple email describing myself and ask if there is an opportunity available during these months (or when the opportunity is available) or should I write a short, to the point cover letter describing my experience of the electives I have done in my country and attach my cv to it?

I am new at this and I don't want to blow away my opportunity since I am not exactly sure the proper etiquette of how to approach them. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
If it were me, I would attach a copy of my CV + USMLE score + maybe TOEFL and politely ask them if they would be able to accommodate me from X to Y. Also a brief PS (1 paragraph) stating my interest in their program + enthusiasm.

I would not bother with describing electives experiences. Your clinical experiences could be included in your CV in a very concise way. (done this this and that clerkships, this this and that elective)

Disclaimer: I didn't actually have to do that to bag any electives.
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Hey,

Most of them seem to only accept medical students who are attending their final 12 months of medical schools and have done their core rotations. Are there schools that offer electives (or clerkships?) even for students who are doing their core rotations? So far it seems that my only chance to do any elective whatsoever during my early clinical semesters is to seek help at Chicago Clerkships etc. as they don't seem to care if you've done your core rotations or not. But I don't feel like spending 2000+ dollars when I can just pay 500 to a medical school instead... Maybe I should wait until my last 12 months afterall, but our curriculum will at that point only involve boring rotations like pediatrics... We have surgery, IM, radiology etc. all during the earlier semesters...

I hope there is at least one school that offers clerkships (it's clerkships if the rotations are happening during your earlier semesters, right? And electives is what you call your final 12 months). Anyone that knows any?
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Bump.

Anyone knows if clerkships are being offered to international medical students? I really want to do my core rotations in the USA.

Or is the sad reality that there's electives for ONLY final year students? Does anyone know someone who happened to find a place that accepts not-final year medican students?

I know the companies like Chicago Clerkships exist but I'd prefer to avoid those. I want an official clerkship/elective done by contacting university hospitals directly.
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Hey,

Most of them seem to only accept medical students who are attending their final 12 months of medical schools and have done their core rotations. Are there schools that offer electives (or clerkships?) even for students who are doing their core rotations? So far it seems that my only chance to do any elective whatsoever during my early clinical semesters is to seek help at Chicago Clerkships etc. as they don't seem to care if you've done your core rotations or not. But I don't feel like spending 2000+ dollars when I can just pay 500 to a medical school instead... Maybe I should wait until my last 12 months afterall, but our curriculum will at that point only involve boring rotations like pediatrics... We have surgery, IM, radiology etc. all during the earlier semesters...

I hope there is at least one school that offers clerkships (it's clerkships if the rotations are happening during your earlier semesters, right? And electives is what you call your final 12 months). Anyone that knows any?
You don't understand what clerkships are. The definition of terms are blurry and some places use different definitions for clerkships and electives. Clerkships are generally MANDATORY rotations you need to do in order to graduate. Those are best done in your home country. Electives are rotations you choose to do (generally available in you last year of medical school).

If your medical school curriculum is not flexible at all and you are not allowed to do any electives, I suggest you wait until last year and ask them to delay your graduation (by postponing a required rotation) and use the free months to do electives of choice in the US. It would be probably a good idea to find a way to gain academic credit for them as well. That is pretty rare though; you probably need to get better informed about how last year works in your medical school. Good luck.
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It will be possible to do electives during my final year. During semester 10 we have a short period of 4 weeks where we can choose whatever. My plan is to use this 4 week period for an elective in the USA.

Lets also not forget about the summer holidays. I will definitely be using those as another opportunity to do externships/electives.

The medical schools here in Sweden are sadly not like the American. All of our semesters are infested by mandatory rotations. There is no period (except for the 4 week one) in which the students can choose to do electives, sadly.

However, during the final year, the core rotations will have been done but we will have other mandatory rotations that are not considered "core". Apparently I will have the opportunity to do these abroad with the obvious drawback that it's rotations that I don't want to become a physician in. But then again; is ANY letter of recommendation good or does it have to be specific for that type of field that I want to match into?

At this point I can guarantee myself at least two letters of recommendation; one during semester 8, which is our "research" semester. I will do research within the anesthesia field in the USA (alot of the students in my university also chooses to do their research project in the USA). The other one is during the 4 weeks during semester 10, which will be spent on an anesthesia elective.

I need two more (preferably 3 more since research letters are not worth alot apparently) and that's where the summer holiday between the semesters 10 and 11 comes in (we have roughly two months of holiday starting from middle of June to end of August). My hope is to get the remaining 3 anesthesia LOR:s during this period.
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Hello folks,

Just an update. First, there is at least one more program that accepts international students and is not on the list, U of Alabama, if I am not mistaken.

Second, would just like to post my experiences applying to programs so far:

Be warned, there seems to be a shortage of medicine electives out there, I was only able to get 1 elective in medicine in Cleveland Clinic. Ended up with surgery in UNC.

1. Yale - No response (rejected?) I don't really know what happened, but it doesn't cost anything to apply, so why not. I would not have attended due to schedule anyways.

2. FIU - good to have as a back up. They don't require step 1. A bit on the expensive side (250 to apply, 2500 for 1 month), but gives you piece of mind if you are not accepted elsewhere.

3. Cleveland Clinic - accepted for 2 months. I recommend everyone who meets their minimum requirements to apply, they do everything they can to give you a spot.

4. UNC - Accepted for 1 month. Once again, if you can spare the tuition (2500), I think it is a good idea to apply here. They do try to accommodate your request and the application fee is very reasonable. I was not accepted for my top choice electives (did not have much flexibility), but still happy with what they offered me.

5. Mayo Clinic - Rejected. I can't pinpoint why, got high scores (255+), TOEFL (112). Maybe lack of research, not great med school grades/Personal statement. They don't really seem to try much at all to place you in an elective. Heard about people who got accepted, some who supposedly were offered extra options regarding alternate electives/dates. I called them and they told me they wouldn't offer me any options. A bit shady. Overall, I think that if you don't have a very strong application, don't bother for medicine (due to the relative shortage of spots). For surgery/etc, go for it.

Honorable mention: MSKCC - honestly, now that I have talked to other students, I should have applied there over Mayo, I feel as if fewer people get rejected there.

I started the whole process late. I think if you get your USMLE score early in the game you will have great chances. It seems to me that bagging electives is not as "impossible" as some people claim (medicine electives are paradoxically competitive to get though), as long as you apply broadly and early. Good luck!
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Hello folks,

Just an update. First, there is at least one more program that accepts international students and is not on the list, U of Alabama, if I am not mistaken.

Second, would just like to post my experiences applying to programs so far:

Be warned, there seems to be a shortage of medicine electives out there, I was only able to get 1 elective in medicine in Cleveland Clinic. Ended up with surgery in UNC.

1. Yale - No response (rejected?) I don't really know what happened, but it doesn't cost anything to apply, so why not. I would not have attended due to schedule anyways.

2. FIU - good to have as a back up. They don't require step 1. A bit on the expensive side (250 to apply, 2500 for 1 month), but gives you piece of mind if you are not accepted elsewhere.

3. Cleveland Clinic - accepted for 2 months. I recommend everyone who meets their minimum requirements to apply, they do everything they can to give you a spot.

4. UNC - Accepted for 1 month. Once again, if you can spare the tuition (2500), I think it is a good idea to apply here. They do try to accommodate your request and the application fee is very reasonable. I was not accepted for my top choice electives (did not have much flexibility), but still happy with what they offered me.

5. Mayo Clinic - Rejected. I can't pinpoint why, got high scores (255+), TOEFL (112). Maybe lack of research, not great med school grades/Personal statement. They don't really seem to try much at all to place you in an elective. Heard about people who got accepted, some who supposedly were offered extra options regarding alternate electives/dates. I called them and they told me they wouldn't offer me any options. A bit shady. Overall, I think that if you don't have a very strong application, don't bother for medicine (due to the relative shortage of spots). For surgery/etc, go for it.

Honorable mention: MSKCC - honestly, now that I have talked to other students, I should have applied there over Mayo, I feel as if fewer people get rejected there.

I started the whole process late. I think if you get your USMLE score early in the game you will have great chances. It seems to me that bagging electives is not as "impossible" as some people claim (medicine electives are paradoxically competitive to get though), as long as you apply broadly and early. Good luck!
Hello Parcus ,
first of all thankyou for the information. May I know in which you had applied for electives? I did a month ago and heard only from FIU.
Have a good day
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And as per my knowledge UAB requires a faculty sponsor.
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@Parcus -In which month*
And as per my knowledge UAB requires a faculty sponsor.
I was not refering to Alabama, my mistake. There is one more out there which doesn't charge tuition (requires step 1 though). http://www.lsuhscshreveport.edu/Educ...ent-guidelines

I applied for Oct-January.
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I was not refering to Alabama, my mistake. There is one more out there which doesn't charge tuition (requires step 1 though). http://www.lsuhscshreveport.edu/Educ...ent-guidelines

I applied for Oct-January.
Thank you

How long do they take to reply regarding our status ..i.e; whether accepted or rejected... i mean all the universities on an avg
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How long do they take to reply regarding our status ..i.e; whether accepted or rejected... i mean all the universities on an avg
There is no "average", it depends on when you apply and the place you are applying to. CC tends to respond a bit late (if you have a back up, you will have to cancel it <1 month before it starts). FIU responds soon after you apply. Not sure about the others.
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I am an Intern IMG. Our college requires us to complete Internship to graduate so I am a medical student. But we don't have to pay tuition for Internship/final year.

In the Visiting student form, there is a column asking whether the student will be paying tuition at the college during the dates indicated below.

As I won't be paying tuition, would I still be eligible for the electives?
Is there anyone out there who filled not pay tuition and got an elective?
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