How to get an elective – explained (International Medical Students) - USMLE Forums
USMLE Forums Logo
USMLE Forums         Your Reliable USMLE Online Community     Members     Posts
Home
USMLE Articles
USMLE News
USMLE Polls
USMLE Books
USMLE Apps
Go Back   USMLE Forums > IMG/FMG Forum > USCE & Clinical Rotations

USCE & Clinical Rotations IMG discussions of United States Clinical Experience (USCE), clinical rotations, clerkships, externships, observerships, electives, and internships.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-09-2016
aniraiqbal93's Avatar
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 35
Threads: 5
Thanked 19 Times in 8 Posts
Reputation: 29
Info How to get an elective – explained (International Medical Students)

How to get an elective – explained (International Medical Students)

I know many students struggle when faced with the task of bagging an elective in the US. I did too. Just a foreword – No One will spoon feed you all the info. You will have to do a lot of the work to know which universities to apply to and how. In this post, I want to share all the information I can about how I got an elective in the US, so that not everyone will face the same difficulties I did starting from scratch to look for an elective. Most of the info here will be tailored to the requirements for Indian Students, but IMS from other countries will hopefully find this helpful too.

About me – Indian Intern (Regarded as the last year of medical school in India) currently in my 5th month of Internship

Electives Bagged – Yale School of Medicine (Radiation Oncology) –elective of choice
Herbert Wertheim College of Medicine (Radiology)

Still waiting replies from – Weill Cornell University
University of Massachusetts

Steps given – None

TOEFL Score – 117/120 (R:29 L:29 S:30 W:29)

How to go about applying for an elective:

1. Get your definitions right - http://umartariq.com/node/128
Just know that once you are a graduate, you cannot do an elective. You can do observerships and such.

2. Best time to apply – Towards the end of fourth prof of medical school in India (or second last year in Schools elsewhere) : Some universities want you to apply ahead of 8 months, so you should start researching universities by this time. Even if you are in your internship, it’s not too late. I applied in the first 2 months of my internship.

3. Best time to go – In the middle or towards the end of your internship/last year of medical school

4. List of Universities - http://electives.us/unilistims.html
Complete List of Clinical Electives for International Medical Students
You should know that not all universities accept international students. You need to go to each University’s website and search the requirements. Type in “(University name) international student elective” and look through it. Some universities will only accept international students from certain international universities. Go through their list of universities.
Some universities might require step 1 scores. Most of them require TOEFL.
Also check out – Herbert Wertheim College of Medicine (Florida International University) – This college is not given on any list, but I found it by chance, and it offers a lot of electives to International students. However, there are no residency positions here so it might not be a choice for many people
Ideally you should choose an elective in which you aim to do residency, but something is always better than nothing. You can do a one or two month elective, depending on your convenience. The longer the elective, the better.

5. TOEFL – I’d suggest you to give TOEFL asap before applying to any university. It’s not a very difficult exam for those who have studied in English medium schools and will not take long for you to prepare. Get Barron’s TOEFL iBT Book and look at some youtube videos. I did my preparation in 5 days, mainly because I had my pre-university exams, but you can take 2-3 weeks to prepare as well. Book the exam online first. It costs about 120$.

6. Make a list of all the universities you are going to be eligible for along with their application fee and tuition fee. The only couple of places which do not require application fee are places like NIH and Yale. However tuition fees are exceptionally high at such places. Exception – NIH – They don’t have an application or a tuition fee, but it is really hard to get through. You need to have amazing TOEFL scores and at least some research experience. I did not have the latter, so maybe that’s the reason I was rejected.

7. Prepare a resume – look up some templates online and make one

8. Ask your Dean to write you an LOR, explain to him the situation and make a generalized one stating “To Whomever it may concern” or make specific ones addressed to the administrative assistants of each University.

9. Ask for a transcript of your records from your medical school. Make sure they include results from each of your college year in the form of pass/fail along with the marks. Usually colleges have their own templates for these transcripts but you may ask for an addition. Some places like NIH and Yale may require you to specify the hours of clinical postings you have attended in each subject so include that as well.

10. Health forms – Usually they give these to be filled on the University’s website and you have to get a registered medical practitioner to fill and sign these, along with some titers like Hepatitis B titer and Tuberculin Skin test results

11. Immunization Certificate – You need to get one made stating all the vaccines you have received along with recent ones specified on the university’s page.

12. Personal Statement/Letter of Intent/Cover letter – You need to write a little ‘essay’ about yourself and why you would like to perform an elective in the institute. Research a little bit about the institute and make a cover letter tailored to it. Universities really appreciate a good cover letter, so make sure you make an impressive one.

13. Malpractice insurance/Health Insurance – You can get this after you have been accepted for an elective as well.

14. Get a US Visa – Well, this is an obvious requirement

15. How to apply – For most universities, you can send all the material via e-mail. Make sure you send all the application material together. For Weill Cornell, make sure you are applying to correct hospitals since on their website, they state that only a select few hospitals accept international students. Some universities might require you to send them the material via post. In this case, use speed post. Try to convert all documents into a pdf before sending.

This is the stuff that will be the basic requirement for applying to ANY university. However some universities might require other stuff as well like HIPAA Certificate which is an online course which is really easy and cheap, so you should go for it. Some may require a BLS and ACLS training certificate as well.

I hope you found this post helpful. You can ask questions and I’ll answer to the best of my ability. I will post my Yale experience once I’ve done it.

This site helped me immensely : http://umartariq.com/
__________________
"By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail."
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The above post was thanked by:
amrat (08-21-2016), chanduM (08-11-2016), isha (08-22-2016), Janki (08-26-2016), PriyankaRamesh (08-21-2016), Sindh21 (10-07-2016)


  #2  
Old 08-09-2016
USMLE Forums Addict
 
Steps History: 1 + CK
Posts: 182
Threads: 26
Thanked 43 Times in 39 Posts
Reputation: 53
Default

Exceptional article, everything answered to the point. Congrats for your electives and good luck for bagging a few more
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The above post was thanked by:
aniraiqbal93 (08-10-2016)
  #3  
Old 08-10-2016
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 62
Threads: 13
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Reputation: 13
Default

Hi how could you apply for Yale? I thought the YVSIP only for affiliated school?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
  #4  
Old 08-10-2016
USMLE Forums Addict
 
Steps History: 1 + CK
Posts: 182
Threads: 26
Thanked 43 Times in 39 Posts
Reputation: 53
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mekel1991 View Post
Hi how could you apply for Yale? I thought the YVSIP only for affiliated school?
International Visiting Studing program there is only open till November 2016 rotation and they haven't mentioned anything about rest of the 16-17 session
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5  
Old 08-26-2016
Janki's Avatar
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 44
Threads: 3
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Reputation: 16
Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by aniraiqbal93 View Post
How to get an elective – explained (International Medical Students)

I know many students struggle when faced with the task of bagging an elective in the US. I did too. Just a foreword – No One will spoon feed you all the info. You will have to do a lot of the work to know which universities to apply to and how. In this post, I want to share all the information I can about how I got an elective in the US, so that not everyone will face the same difficulties I did starting from scratch to look for an elective. Most of the info here will be tailored to the requirements for Indian Students, but IMS from other countries will hopefully find this helpful too.

About me – Indian Intern (Regarded as the last year of medical school in India) currently in my 5th month of Internship

Electives Bagged – Yale School of Medicine (Radiation Oncology) –elective of choice
Herbert Wertheim College of Medicine (Radiology)

Still waiting replies from – Weill Cornell University
University of Massachusetts

Steps given – None

TOEFL Score – 117/120 (R:29 L:29 S:30 W:29)

How to go about applying for an elective:

1. Get your definitions right - http://umartariq.com/node/128
Just know that once you are a graduate, you cannot do an elective. You can do observerships and such.

2. Best time to apply – Towards the end of fourth prof of medical school in India (or second last year in Schools elsewhere) : Some universities want you to apply ahead of 8 months, so you should start researching universities by this time. Even if you are in your internship, it’s not too late. I applied in the first 2 months of my internship.

3. Best time to go – In the middle or towards the end of your internship/last year of medical school

4. List of Universities - http://electives.us/unilistims.html
Complete List of Clinical Electives for International Medical Students
You should know that not all universities accept international students. You need to go to each University’s website and search the requirements. Type in “(University name) international student elective” and look through it. Some universities will only accept international students from certain international universities. Go through their list of universities.
Some universities might require step 1 scores. Most of them require TOEFL.
Also check out – Herbert Wertheim College of Medicine (Florida International University) – This college is not given on any list, but I found it by chance, and it offers a lot of electives to International students. However, there are no residency positions here so it might not be a choice for many people
Ideally you should choose an elective in which you aim to do residency, but something is always better than nothing. You can do a one or two month elective, depending on your convenience. The longer the elective, the better.

5. TOEFL – I’d suggest you to give TOEFL asap before applying to any university. It’s not a very difficult exam for those who have studied in English medium schools and will not take long for you to prepare. Get Barron’s TOEFL iBT Book and look at some youtube videos. I did my preparation in 5 days, mainly because I had my pre-university exams, but you can take 2-3 weeks to prepare as well. Book the exam online first. It costs about 120$.

6. Make a list of all the universities you are going to be eligible for along with their application fee and tuition fee. The only couple of places which do not require application fee are places like NIH and Yale. However tuition fees are exceptionally high at such places. Exception – NIH – They don’t have an application or a tuition fee, but it is really hard to get through. You need to have amazing TOEFL scores and at least some research experience. I did not have the latter, so maybe that’s the reason I was rejected.

7. Prepare a resume – look up some templates online and make one

8. Ask your Dean to write you an LOR, explain to him the situation and make a generalized one stating “To Whomever it may concern” or make specific ones addressed to the administrative assistants of each University.

9. Ask for a transcript of your records from your medical school. Make sure they include results from each of your college year in the form of pass/fail along with the marks. Usually colleges have their own templates for these transcripts but you may ask for an addition. Some places like NIH and Yale may require you to specify the hours of clinical postings you have attended in each subject so include that as well.

10. Health forms – Usually they give these to be filled on the University’s website and you have to get a registered medical practitioner to fill and sign these, along with some titers like Hepatitis B titer and Tuberculin Skin test results

11. Immunization Certificate – You need to get one made stating all the vaccines you have received along with recent ones specified on the university’s page.

12. Personal Statement/Letter of Intent/Cover letter – You need to write a little ‘essay’ about yourself and why you would like to perform an elective in the institute. Research a little bit about the institute and make a cover letter tailored to it. Universities really appreciate a good cover letter, so make sure you make an impressive one.

13. Malpractice insurance/Health Insurance – You can get this after you have been accepted for an elective as well.

14. Get a US Visa – Well, this is an obvious requirement

15. How to apply – For most universities, you can send all the material via e-mail. Make sure you send all the application material together. For Weill Cornell, make sure you are applying to correct hospitals since on their website, they state that only a select few hospitals accept international students. Some universities might require you to send them the material via post. In this case, use speed post. Try to convert all documents into a pdf before sending.

This is the stuff that will be the basic requirement for applying to ANY university. However some universities might require other stuff as well like HIPAA Certificate which is an online course which is really easy and cheap, so you should go for it. Some may require a BLS and ACLS training certificate as well.

I hope you found this post helpful. You can ask questions and I’ll answer to the best of my ability. I will post my Yale experience once I’ve done it.

This site helped me immensely : http://umartariq.com/

Hey

When are going to go for herbert werthiem medical college(FIU)?
Have you heard how is it.?
Have you of the companies named FMG Portals and Medclerckships.?
Is it good to do electives through these companies.?
Please mail me at jankipatel1994@yahoo.co.in. I really need some help
Thank you
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6  
Old 08-26-2016
aniraiqbal93's Avatar
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 35
Threads: 5
Thanked 19 Times in 8 Posts
Reputation: 29
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Janki View Post
Hey

When are going to go for herbert werthiem medical college(FIU)?
Have you heard how is it.?
Have you of the companies named FMG Portals and Medclerckships.?
Is it good to do electives through these companies.?
Please mail me at jankipatel1994@yahoo.co.in. I really need some help
Thank you
Hi! I'm not going to FIU. I'm going to Yale in November. I've heard FIU should be kept as a last choice since something is better than nothing. I've not heard of the company and so I can't comment.
__________________
"By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail."
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7  
Old 08-27-2016
USMLE Forums Addict
 
Steps History: 1 + CK
Posts: 182
Threads: 26
Thanked 43 Times in 39 Posts
Reputation: 53
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Janki View Post
Hey

When are going to go for herbert werthiem medical college(FIU)?
Have you heard how is it.?
Have you of the companies named FMG Portals and Medclerckships.?
Is it good to do electives through these companies.?
Please mail me at jankipatel1994@yahoo.co.in. I really need some help
Thank you
As everyone emphasised before, If you are a student the best option is to do electives in universities because these electives are not merely for experience but like an audition for your residency. So university elective (includes FIU) is always better. But if you are already a graduate and need some USCE then ofcourse you have these companies.
In short if you are a:
a) Student:Prefer- University elective/clerkship
b) Graduate: Prefer- These private companies for hands on experience and/or observerships.
Hope it clears up the air for you.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The above post was thanked by:
aniraiqbal93 (08-27-2016), Janki (08-27-2016)
  #8  
Old 08-27-2016
Janki's Avatar
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 44
Threads: 3
Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Reputation: 16
Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by andygill View Post
As everyone emphasised before, If you are a student the best option is to do electives in universities because these electives are not merely for experience but like an audition for your residency. So university elective (includes FIU) is always better. But if you are already a graduate and need some USCE then ofcourse you have these companies.
In short if you are a:
a) Student:Prefer- University elective/clerkship
b) Graduate: Prefer- These private companies for hands on experience and/or observerships.
Hope it clears up the air for you.
Thank you so much
That was helpful.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #9  
Old 01-16-2017
USMLE Forums Newbie
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 1
Threads: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Reputation: 10
Default

Thank you very much for giving us your experience and tips!
I'm currently searching everything I can about getting a clerkship/elective so I can gather all the money and bureaucracy necessary to do it next year.

Do you know how much are your grades in the first years of med school important to be accepted in an elective/clerkship? Most of the of the programs request your academic transcript, so I'm guessing it's relevant.. or is it only necessary to check your clinical/rotations hours?
Supposing I do very well in the step 1 (like 250+), would it overcome my average GPA?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #10  
Old 01-17-2017
aniraiqbal93's Avatar
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: Not yet
Posts: 35
Threads: 5
Thanked 19 Times in 8 Posts
Reputation: 29
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lukeps View Post
Thank you very much for giving us your experience and tips!
I'm currently searching everything I can about getting a clerkship/elective so I can gather all the money and bureaucracy necessary to do it next year.

Do you know how much are your grades in the first years of med school important to be accepted in an elective/clerkship? Most of the of the programs request your academic transcript, so I'm guessing it's relevant.. or is it only necessary to check your clinical/rotations hours?
Supposing I do very well in the step 1 (like 250+), would it overcome my average GPA?
Grades are definitely important, especially at the high end places like Yale, Weill Cornell etc. But they are mostly considered if you haven't given step 1 yet. If you have a great step 1 score, I doubt they even look a lot at medical school transcript.
__________________
"By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail."
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #11  
Old 01-21-2017
USMLE Forums Scout
 
Steps History: Step 1 Only
Posts: 17
Threads: 2
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Reputation: 10
Default

Hi do you think that 237 and great marks(almost all A some B) in the last four semesters get me a shot? Thanks!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message



Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the USMLE Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:
Medical School
Choose "---" if you don't want to tell. AMG for US & Canadian medical schools. IMG for all other medical schools.
USMLE Steps History
What steps finished! Example: 1+CK+CS+3 = Passed Step 1, Step 2 CK, Step 2 CS, and Step 3.

Choose "---" if you don't want to tell.

Favorite USMLE Books
What USMLE books you really think are useful. Leave blank if you don't want to tell.
Location
Where you live. Leave blank if you don't want to tell.

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Electives list for international medical students dsrp USCE & Clinical Rotations 51 2 Weeks Ago 10:51 PM
How to get an elective – explained (International Medical Students) aniraiqbal93 USMLE Step 1 Forum 7 09-25-2016 07:28 AM
Externships/Observerships for international medical STUDENTS enxhi27 USCE & Clinical Rotations 0 10-15-2013 10:53 AM
Required documents for International Medical Students thesea2011 ECFMG Forum 1 04-13-2011 04:17 PM
Eligibility for USMLE Step 2 for International Medical Students? londondreams ECFMG Forum 3 12-30-2010 05:49 PM

RSS Feed
Find Us on Facebook
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

USMLE® & other trade marks belong to their respective owners, read full disclaimer
USMLE Forums created under Creative Commons 3.0 License. (2009-2014)