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Program Directors PDs do not like Paid Externships!

Hi guys!

Every now and then I read in some posts here in the usmle-forums that (some?) PDs don't like/value our paid externships (or LORs we get from that). I'm talking about the fact that we pay for it, not the fact that it's only 1-/3-month experience, so by far shorter than in AMGs.

But to be honest is there any other way for an IMG to get into the externship (not observership) than through the agency (apart from having contacts)?

I have been searching and emailing some programs and most of them don't offer any of those, and if they do it's just an observership.
I am seriously considering contacting one of the agencies in a couple of weeks (of course if I don't find anything on my own). But having read that PDs might not like it, I'm not sure is it all worth going for it + spending lots of money.

I was wondering what is your experience in that field? Maybe some of you used middlemen services for the externship and then got an opinion on that from a PD on a random talk, during interview etc.?

I would really appreciate if you shared your opinion/experience
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Thanks for posting that Casandra. I was having the same questions. Could someone please be kind enough to shed some light on it? It'd really help us to make the right decision.
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well they have the right not to like paid ones but what they should realize is that there is no way to do unpaid ones! I emailed to cc. 60 people when I was looking for externship, 5 replied, finally managed to secure 1 observership. These are the numbers..
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well they have the right not to like paid ones but what they should realize is that there is no way to do unpaid ones! I emailed to cc. 60 people when I was looking for externship, 5 replied, finally managed to secure 1 observership. These are the numbers..
Exactly! We are lucky to get into an observership. Externship w/o contacts or the agent is really really hard (or maybe I just haven't found the right way to find it ).
But let me get one thing straight: PDs don't like the fact that we get USCE this way (by paying) or they appreciate that we have some clinical experience in US but simply don't value LoRs we get from those externships at all?
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I've talked to over 5 PDs regarding this issue.

Guess what? they don't know which USCE has been paid for and which was not!

So am not sure how this rumor came out, if they don't know that it was paid and of course (you are not that naive to tell them) then how come that becomes an issue!

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Thanks Sabio! I really appreaciate it!
So it's just another rumor doing rounds? Good to know. I thought I had most of them covered by now.
Thanks again!
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