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Question Americlerkships and ACA are the same thing!

Can someone please elaborate on this? I am looking for externships and us clinical experience for my CV for the upcoming match. Contacted americlerkships to get a quote of $2700 for 1 Month + memberships fees ($500??) + random late fee charges. Then ACA gave me the same exact info and pricing... Am I talking with literally the same person? Also was given a ridiculous 3-5 hour deadline. Unprofessional and ridiculous in my opinion for non hospital guaranteed rotations...

Can anyone recommend one company or another? Looking for rotations at HOSPITALS WITH RESIDENC to try and network institutionally for an interview/PGY1. Understandable that its not fully inpatient but a great doctor can make up for that experience with an awesome LoR, if on hospital letterhead...
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Hi Aldoitalia99,

I am a Health Career Advisor for ACA and will do my best to answer your question on this thread but would greatly appreciate the opportunity to better explain over the phone, via SKYPE or in person. You can then document our discussion on the forum.

Dr. Mizani is the Director of Advanced Colleges of America and our sister organization Americlerkships. We work together to help medical students and graduates obtain hands-in clinical experience in the US. However, there are many difference between both organizations.

Americlerkships is a clinical management company. They are able to help medical students and graduates obtain individual hands-on clinical rotations in the US. During these clinical rotations an average of 50 non invasive clinical skills can be practiced. There are numerous clinical management companies across the US that offer these services but per state regulations may not be able to offer their services in certain states. Medical Students that are approved by their medical school to complete hands-on clinical rotations made available by placement agencies, may receive Internship/Core/Elective USCE rotation credit and is documented as such on their medical school transcripts and ERAS Application. Medical Graduates that complete hands-on clinical rotations provided by placement agencies must record them under "volunteer" experience since the hands-on clinical rotations are being done on a volunteer basis. Performance based LORs and Clinical evaluations secured from individual hands-on clinical evaluations are recognized by residency programs.

Advanced Colleges of America is a state approved vocational college that offers hybrid structured programs for medical students and graduates. The Medical Residency Track program is the most popular since its design to provide medical students and graduates that qualify access to two different types of US hands-on clinical experience:

1.) 5 individual Physician supervised insured hands-on externship rotations. (not clerkships)
2.) Residency relevant work experience as a Certified Advanced Medical Assistant (salaried position)

Since ACA an educational institution and abides by stricter regulations our services are not constrained to a particular set of states in the US. However, at the moment we can only assist medical students and graduates that are US citizens, US residents, or have an H1/H4/F1/I visa.

ACAs Medical Residency Track Program is designed to provide the following services:

1.) Payment plans
2.) 5 individual hands-on clinical externship rotations.
3.) Assistance with securing Performance Based LORs and Clinical Evaluations.
4.) 8-10 Online courses related to the US Healthcare System and Advanced Medical Assisting.
5.) Diploma in Advanced Medical Assisting.
6.) AMA NCCT certification examination training manual.
*7.) SALARIED job placement assistance as a Certified Advanced Medical Assistant (F1 with work permit (I) and H1 visa minimum requirement).
8.) CV, Personal Statement, and ERAS application review.
9.) Residency Mock Interview preparation.

Since the 5 individual hands-on externship rotations are being completed as part of a structured educational program for credit:

1.) Medical students may receive Internship/Core/Elective USCE rotation credit as part of the MRT program and is documented as such on their medical school transcripts and ERAS Application.
2.) Medical graduates document hands-on externships under "work" since its for credit.

Performance based LORs and Clinical Evaluations secured from the externship rotations are recognized by residency programs.


I hope the above explanation answered your questions. Please contact at your earliest convenience to discuss in greater detail.

Best - Victor
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Thank you for your elaborate explanation and differentiation of a clerkship and externship. So, ACA or Advanced Colleges of America is a parent company of americlerkships because the difference is: 5 rotations + a payment plan?
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do not trust these cheater, just contact directly university hospital.
http://www.usmleforum.com/files/forum/2011/4/611301.php
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My pleasure.

Dr. Mizani is the Director of both ACA and Americlerkships. Americlerkships was created first and ACA was created in 2009.

There are many more differences between ACA and AMS. ACA can offer:
1.) Payment plans
2.) 5 individual hands-on clinical externship rotations.
3.) Assistance with securing Performance Based LORs and Clinical Evaluations.
4.) 8-10 Online courses related to the US Healthcare System and Advanced Medical Assisting.
5.) Diploma in Advanced Medical Assisting.
6.) AMA NCCT certification examination training manual.
*7.) SALARIED job placement assistance as a Certified Advanced Medical Assistant (F1 with work permit (I) and H1 visa minimum requirement).
8.) CV, Personal Statement, and ERAS application review.
9.) Residency Mock Interview preparation.


Best - Victor


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Thank you for your elaborate explanation and differentiation of a clerkship and externship. So, ACA or Advanced Colleges of America is a parent company of americlerkships because the difference is: 5 rotations + a payment plan?
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Hi,

You are correct that medical students and graduates can contact hospitals directly on their own. However, because of set procedures and regulations per state it may not be the most effective or professional thing to do.

In many cases medical graduates that secure clinical rotations on their own manage to obtain observership, research or shadowing clinical rotations. But unfortunately these types of clinical rotations are ranked low among the selection criteria for residency. In addition a common mistake made during these rotations in the practice on hands-on clinical skills without the proper liability insurances, certifications and lack of supervision by an Attending Physician.

Regarding the link that you shared, all medical students and graduates that enroll with ACA or AMS can directly contact our Director, Dr. Mizani to resolve such issues right away. In addition there are multiple threads of positive experiences with AMS and surveys ranking AMS as the best clinical management organization. This is mainly due to our extensive network US Attending Physicians and clinical sites that we share across the US.

When it comes to completing hands-on clinical rotations in the US, its is very important to understand that not all medical students and graduates are in the same position and therefore may not have access to the same clinical sites and features. All states and clinical sites have different requirements and regulations to allow medical students and graduates to practice hands-on clinical skills. In addition some medical students and graduates are not in a position to travel to different cities and states that offer greater access to inpatient facilities.

You can rest assure that we also have regulations to follow and prefer to take things one step at a time when helping medical students or graduates. Before we create a contract we verify the clinical features and availability of the Attending Physicians.


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