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Has anybody done electives in Herbert Wertheim College of Medicine, Florida International University ??or anyone planning for it..?
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I've just been accepted there for an elective. Did you or anyone you know do an elective there?
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Hey guys
I have been accepted for april-may 2016. Have you heard from anyone who has been there? How is it?
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I am also an IMG from India and going to do Emergency Med rotations in March. Have you figured out your accommodation yet?
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I am also an IMG from India and going to do Emergency Med rotations in March. Have you figured out your accommodation yet?
call me on the given no.
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I have been accepted for the months of June & July 2016. Any one else here have electives during this slot? Any experiences?
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hey can anyone share their experience at fiu??even the accomodation details if possible??i am an img.i have been accepted for a cardiology elective for month of april.
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Hello , I have secured an elective spot for months of April and may at FIU , anyone with accommodation arrangements ?
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Hi, I am an IMG and I will have internal medicine electives in Herbert wertheim college in May and June. Can anyone tell me how the program is like and Is anybody there in May and June? Maybe we can share accommodation together.
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hey can anyone share their experience at fiu??even the accomodation details if possible??i am an img.i have been accepted for a cardiology elective for month of april.
can you please tell me before how many months did you apply there ?
i want to apply for July-august period so can i apply now ?
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I am also an IMG from India and going to do Emergency Med rotations in March. Have you figured out your accommodation yet?
can you please tell me before how many months did you apply there ?
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Hi, I am an IMG and I will have internal medicine electives in Herbert wertheim college in May and June. Can anyone tell me how the program is like and Is anybody there in May and June? Maybe we can share accommodation together.
Could you please tell us how you applied to the observer program? All I found was a visiting student program. Your help is appreciated!
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Could you please tell us how you applied to the observer program? All I found was a visiting student program. Your help is appreciated!
They are talking about elective program not oberverships.
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Hey how was your experience there?
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Hey everyone, I've seen a few posts about FIU electives and people searching for housing and such, but no one ever returns to share their experiences! Please, if you have the time share a brief summary about electives at FIU HWCM.

Thanks!
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Hi! I will be applying for electives at HWCOM for Jan-March 2017.
I need help with the documents that need to be submitted. I tried emailing their office several times but ....
Their guidelines state that they need only your CV, Application form, Transcript, application fee receipt and a rotation agreement form.
Then their application form states that we need to attach our immunization records, malpractice insurance and health insurance proof and a security check. SO should I send all of that together?

Anyone who has rotated there, please help me with this....I'd realllyyy appreciate it.
Also how hard is it to get in? It's one of the veeeery few places that don't need step1 and I want to know my chances :/
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Hi! I will be applying for electives at HWCOM for Jan-March 2017.
I need help with the documents that need to be submitted. I tried emailing their office several times but ....
Their guidelines state that they need only your CV, Application form, Transcript, application fee receipt and a rotation agreement form.
Then their application form states that we need to attach our immunization records, malpractice insurance and health insurance proof and a security check. SO should I send all of that together?

Anyone who has rotated there, please help me with this....I'd realllyyy appreciate it.
Also how hard is it to get in? It's one of the veeeery few places that don't need step1 and I want to know my chances :/
Follow the instructions mentioned on the Application form. You can provide health and malpractice insurance proof after confirmation too.
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Follow the instructions mentioned on the Application form. You can provide health and malpractice insurance proof after confirmation too.

So I just mail them my CV, completed Application form, Dean's letter, Transcript and the fee receipt? That's it? I'm kind of wary about this because I'm applying at 3 different places and the money that i'll be blowing on the application fee itself scares me. I'm applying at UAB, FIU and Cornell...

Did you do an elective at HWCOM? I'd love it if you could share your experience

Thanks so much!
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Please share your experiences at FIU electives because there's one thread on this forum that says that the rotations are okay and not that good. I'd really appreciate if someone had feedback regarding HWCOM's electives....
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Hi! I will be applying for electives at HWCOM for Jan-March 2017.
I need help with the documents that need to be submitted. I tried emailing their office several times but ....
Their guidelines state that they need only your CV, Application form, Transcript, application fee receipt and a rotation agreement form.
Then their application form states that we need to attach our immunization records, malpractice insurance and health insurance proof and a security check. SO should I send all of that together?

Anyone who has rotated there, please help me with this....I'd realllyyy appreciate it.
Also how hard is it to get in? It's one of the veeeery few places that don't need step1 and I want to know my chances :/
I am applying to FIU round about the same time you are applying. I sent in my application just today. I called up their office about the discrepancies about the documents to be submitted. The lady I spoke to, sent me an Email regarding the guidlines for application. It contains the details of the documents to be sent at the time of application and the documents to be sent after getting accepted.

I sent in all the documents you mentioned, except for the malpractice insurance and health insurance. And when they say immunization records, they mean the titres.

A few of my friends just got back from their rotation at FIU. They seem to think it is fairly easy to get in, but I am not very sure.

By the way, have you figured out your accommodation in Florida?
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So I just mail them my CV, completed Application form, Dean's letter, Transcript and the fee receipt? That's it? I'm kind of wary about this because I'm applying at 3 different places and the money that i'll be blowing on the application fee itself scares me. I'm applying at UAB, FIU and Cornell...

Did you do an elective at HWCOM? I'd love it if you could share your experience

Thanks so much!
Have you already applied to UAB? It seems like a nice option considering that we have to make a one time payment and not worry about the stay, food and insurance. But they mentioned on their website that we have to send in the applications not earlier than 3 months before the date you want to elective. So I am still waiting. Meanwhile, I am contemplating applying to Mount Sinai. Have you given that a though? The application fee is a little steep, but my friend did a one month rotation there, and she said it was really good. Much better than FIU.
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Have you already applied to UAB? It seems like a nice option considering that we have to make a one time payment and not worry about the stay, food and insurance. But they mentioned on their website that we have to send in the applications not earlier than 3 months before the date you want to elective. So I am still waiting. Meanwhile, I am contemplating applying to Mount Sinai. Have you given that a though? The application fee is a little steep, but my friend did a one month rotation there, and she said it was really good. Much better than FIU.
UAB, food is not included I guess or is it? The website mentions 40 meals for an extra payment.
How early did your friend apply to Sinai and is it easy or difficult to get an elective there ?
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UAB, food is not included I guess or is it? The website mentions 40 meals for an extra payment.
How early did your friend apply to Sinai and is it easy or difficult to get an elective there ?
I am not sure about the extra fee, but even with that fee I am guessing it would be a bargain since we wouldn't have to go through the hassle of finding accommodations.
And I am not really sure about how early she applied to Sinai, but I am sure it was almost 9 months in advance.
Are you applying to any of the universities mentioned in the thread?
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I am not sure about the extra fee, but even with that fee I am guessing it would be a bargain since we wouldn't have to go through the hassle of finding accommodations.
And I am not really sure about how early she applied to Sinai, but I am sure it was almost 9 months in advance.
Are you applying to any of the universities mentioned in the thread?
UAB I feel is too expensive like you can easily get a private room for $500-600/month or a shared one at quite a low cost around $300-400/month via various apps like airbnb, and malpractice for $100-150/month, airport transfer for max $50-75 two way via uber.
Whereas UAB gives you a shared room in a dorm, food isnt included; malpractice and two way airport transfers.

I was thinking about sinai but I guess I'm too late for that assuming your friend applied atleast 9months in advance. Dont know what to do now :/

What about you, are you applying to these too?
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UAB I feel is too expensive like you can easily get a private room for $500-600/month or a shared one at quite a low cost around $300-400/month via various apps like airbnb, and malpractice for $100-150/month, airport transfer for max $50-75 two way via uber.
Whereas UAB gives you a shared room in a dorm, food isnt included; malpractice and two way airport transfers.

I was thinking about sinai but I guess I'm too late for that assuming your friend applied atleast 9months in advance. Dont know what to do now :/

What about you, are you applying to these too?
Yes. I am applying to FIU, Cornell and Sinai. I might just scrape through the 9 month deadline for Sinai, but I am still going to go for it. You never know.
I am still on the fence about UAB. I haven't spoken to my friends about the monetary details, so I still don't know if UAB would be a good option.
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Have you already applied to UAB? It seems like a nice option considering that we have to make a one time payment and not worry about the stay, food and insurance. But they mentioned on their website that we have to send in the applications not earlier than 3 months before the date you want to elective. So I am still waiting. Meanwhile, I am contemplating applying to Mount Sinai. Have you given that a though? The application fee is a little steep, but my friend did a one month rotation there, and she said it was really good. Much better than FIU.
UAB wants a Skype Interview. 5k is too much, yes, but I can get a place to stay and not worry about the malpractice and stuff, atleast....FIU doesn't have ANY reviews at all! And those who've gone, apparently thought it was okay....so I'm applying to it but still not sure. If I don't get in anywhere, I'd go for FIU. And Cornell, they say it's too hard to get in, but i've still applied cuz you never know. I'm sending my application to FIU tomorrow hopefully....I'm just focusing on getting in somewhere first, accommodation is not on my mind as of now :P
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UAB wants a Skype Interview. 5k is too much, yes, but I can get a place to stay and not worry about the malpractice and stuff, atleast....FIU doesn't have ANY reviews at all! And those who've gone, apparently thought it was okay....so I'm applying to it but still not sure. If I don't get in anywhere, I'd go for FIU. And Cornell, they say it's too hard to get in, but i've still applied cuz you never know. I'm sending my application to FIU tomorrow hopefully....I'm just focusing on getting in somewhere first, accommodation is not on my mind as of now :P
Okay. Yeah, I have heard Cornell is a little difficult to get into. I called them up as well, and they said that the only criterion they are judging applicants on is their transcript. So, I am not too sure I'll get it. But the application fee isn't too high compared to the other universities, so I might give that a shot!
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Good luck everyone applying for electives/observerships

A quick question.. what if I apply to multiple hospitals and I get accepted for more than one? is it easy to choose one and cancel the other, is it usual to happen, or is it going to be a bad thing to do??
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Good luck everyone applying for electives/observerships

A quick question.. what if I apply to multiple hospitals and I get accepted for more than one? is it easy to choose one and cancel the other, is it usual to happen, or is it going to be a bad thing to do??
I feel it's better to apply at multiple to increase your chances, cuz you never know. But it's a costly affair since the application fees are really steep. If you have a killer CV and are sure you'll get in, maybe you can apply at just one place. But I think the timing would matter too, right? SInce they probably have like hundreds of students applying.....
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Got selected at FIU for Cardiology and Emergency Medicine in the months of February and March 2017. Anyone else there during that period?
Also, has anyone cancelled their elective in the past? If so, how much of the tuition fee was returned?
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I have also been selected for elective at HWCOM in Radiology in the month of March 2017. Could someone please tell about the amount of partial refunds they give? Also, if anyone wants to share accommodation?
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I have also been selected for elective at HWCOM in Radiology in the month of March 2017. Could someone please tell about the amount of partial refunds they give? Also, if anyone wants to share accommodation?
They've mentioned that if the candidate cancels with more than two months to spare they'll refund more than 80 percent. I am guessing it would be closer to 90 percent. If it is within two months from the date of the elective they'll refund 80 percent.

As far as accommodation goes, I am looking for people to share it with. although I am still waiting to hear from Cornell and Sinai.

What other universities have you applied to? And how many months are you planning to go there for? Just one?
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I'm waiting to hear from Cornell, Yale and UMass. But I know Cornell replies barely 2 months before your elective, and getting in is really difficult and UMass rarely accepts international students, so I might end up going to Miami after all. I only applied for 1 month (March). It's all I could afford.
Please do inform me if you need to share accommodation in March.
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Hi, I'm on the same boat here, I'll make sure to leave feedback here if i end up going there. I'm applying for Harvard as well (which in past years has accepted almost everyone it seems, but this could change this year) + Yale + Cleveland (I may be a little late for this one, since my step 1 results will only come it in the 24th of August) + UNC, so maybe I won't go.

Also, there is some weird rule in Florida no one seems to cares about http://www.fldoe.org/policy/cie/fore...hips-in-f.stml. I would really like to know whether this will be a problem or not.
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I got accepted at Yale as well for Radiation Oncology in No-Dec 2016. Should I accept it? The fees is staggering! (3500$) Also, I hear they don't give LORs. Could anyone answer my question - Yale or FIU?
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Hi, I'm on the same boat here, I'll make sure to leave feedback here if i end up going there. I'm applying for Harvard as well (which in past years has accepted almost everyone it seems, but this could change this year) + Yale + Cleveland (I may be a little late for this one, since my step 1 results will only come it in the 24th of August) + UNC, so maybe I won't go.

Also, there is some weird rule in Florida no one seems to cares about http://www.fldoe.org/policy/cie/fore...hips-in-f.stml. I would really like to know whether this will be a problem or not.
I know what you mean. I was concerned about it as well. But many students have been there and done an elective, so I guess it isn't a problem. However, I don't think they give residencies there.
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I got accepted at Yale as well for Radiation Oncology in No-Dec 2016. Should I accept it? The fees is staggering! (3500$) Also, I hear they don't give LORs. Could anyone answer my question - Yale or FIU?
Definitely Yale! No question about it. One of my friend did an elective at Yale, and he got Letters of Recommendation as well. Not a problem. If it is a monetary issues,then that is something that you will have to decide. But between Yale and FIU, go for Yale.
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I got accepted at Yale as well for Radiation Oncology in No-Dec 2016. Should I accept it? The fees is staggering! (3500$) Also, I hear they don't give LORs. Could anyone answer my question - Yale or FIU?

Wow! I missed the Yale deadlines, otherwise I'd definitely go there. I mean it HAS to be better than FIU. It's only logical. :/
I didn't get any reply from FIU but I got accepted at UAB for Infectious Diseases in March 17.
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Congratulations Radhika! Happy for you.
Thanks for the help guys
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Congratulations Radhika! Happy for you.
Thanks for the help guys
BTW you should really check with FIU whether or not they give LORs. I think they offer only assessments, that's what I've heard. But also since they don't have residents, the interns get to do a lot more, so I think you'd be able to learn so much. However if i had to decide between FIU and Yale, it'd be Yale, no doubt. Even though everyone knows it's paid, it looks better on your resume doesn't it? :/
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Yes, that is true. Yale looks better anywhere :P
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You don't categorise Yale as "Paid" do you? Like yeah ofcourse you have to shell out money, and a lot of it but, with "Paid" we usually mean those private companies that work as a middle man and mediate your placement in a private setup.

Anyways Congrats for your acceptance. Just give it your best shot.

These LOR's are something that you need to earn. The university/the doctor for whom you work is not obligated to provide you with an LOR (there is an exception eg. UAB) instead you need to ask for it probably in the last week of your elective especially when you are sure that you have built up a healthy and a good relationship with the doctor.
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You don't categorise Yale as "Paid" do you? Like yeah ofcourse you have to shell out money, and a lot of it but, with "Paid" we usually mean those private companies that work as a middle man and mediate your placement in a private setup.

Anyways Congrats for your acceptance. Just give it your best shot.

These LOR's are something that you need to earn. The university/the doctor for whom you work is not obligated to provide you with an LOR (there is an exception eg. UAB) instead you need to ask for it probably in the last week of your elective especially when you are sure that you have built up a healthy and a good relationship with the doctor.
Exactly. When we refer to "paid" experience we are referring to private companies that offer some clinical work with private doctors. The fees are quite high and the only IMGs who should consider this route are those that graduated without completing any electives through a University program. You have a chance of receiving a LOR from anywhere, you just need to work and prove yourself to the doctor who is in charge of you. Towards the end of the elective, just ask the doctor for a LOR.

Btw, Yale University has some strange rule that only IMGs who are NOT U.S. citizens can apply. That was the only thing stopping me from applying, unfortunately. Keep in mind that Yale is quite competitive, though. Also, although to most of you Yale "looks better," it isn't entirely correct to think that way. Here's why... The experience you achieve at your rotation is based on many factors. Some community hospital programs allow you to do more and at the end of the day, you need a LOR that stands out and shows how you worked and that you were excellent. I don't mean to say Yale isn't excellent, I just want everyone to understand that all these places (Alabama, Harvard, Yale, FIU, + many many more) charge thousands of dollars a month and it is up to you to make the most out of your elective experience. At the end of the day, does it really matter that you did an elective at "HARVARD?" (I truly believe their ridiculous tuition fee is because of their "name" and history)Your application will not be stating that you were a student of Harvard at any time, you are just rotating at one the affiliated hospitals. If you did a great job there and the doctor wrote you a personal LOR, excellent! You can get the same thing from any other place you decide to go to. We need to stop spreading false information to help each other out here. Thank you.

*By the way, I didn't mean to bash any program at all. Harvard was one of my options to apply to as well, but since I received an acceptance at FIU I decided to stick with that since I applied super early. If I wanted to apply to Harvard, I would need to cancel FIU a few days before the official acceptance at Harvard and lose way too much money. Always plan out your deadlines/cancellations to avoid this.
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Hi I also got accepted to FIU for electives, and they told me to pay in 2 weeks. Do you guys think it is worthed to do electives at FIU?
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Hi I also got accepted to FIU for electives, and they told me to pay in 2 weeks. Do you guys think it is worthed to do electives at FIU?
You can cancel around 60 days prior to starting, accept FIU if you did not receive any other acceptance. If you are waiting on others, that is your call and your decision. Good luck.
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Hi I also got accepted to FIU for electives, and they told me to pay in 2 weeks. Do you guys think it is worthed to do electives at FIU?
As bluexberry has explained in the above post 'Something is better than Nothing' and yeah it is definitely better than the paid ones cause you are authorised by a University and not a private 'for profit' firm.
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Hey guys this is about FIU, I would like to know where the drug screen and criminal background check is done. and do we have to send it after acceptance or before acceptance?
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And the link they have provided isn't working!
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After acceptance, you should probably contact them before sending an application, as the email they sent me had quite different instructions from the website. By the way, I won't be completing the elective there anymore, so sadly I will not be able to provide feedback.
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And the link they have provided isn't working!
After you get accepted they send you an email containing the link to the background check website. But the drug screen, you're supposed to do it on your own. At least that is what I think. I did get accepted, but I still have to complete these formalities - the background check, drug screen and malpractice insurance.

Makes no point doing all of this along with your application it self. So, if you haven't received an acceptance from them, don't do it just yet. You probably will get accepted and you can do it after that.
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you won't be completing!? okay I better call them up and ask regarding the forms.
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@KV: What has to be done initially then ? what do i have to send them? those application forms which are there on the website. 3 I suppose along with the CV!?
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Hey guys, how do i have to fill these forms? on the Adobe ? how will the dean sign? do i have to scan and send them?
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The drug screen and criminal background check are purchased together on a special website that can be found in the instructions that FIU sent with your application package materials.

Just send the forms via email to your dean's office, they don't want mailed in forms (saves paper).
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hey can anyone share their experience at fiu??even the accomodation details if possible??i am an img.i have been accepted for a cardiology elective for month of april.
Hey! i have also been accepted in Pediatric nephrology for the months of april-May 2017. Let me know if you are looking for accomodation
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Wow! I missed the Yale deadlines, otherwise I'd definitely go there. I mean it HAS to be better than FIU. It's only logical. :/
I didn't get any reply from FIU but I got accepted at UAB for Infectious Diseases in March 17.
HEy! i want to apply to UAB as well. But i am just unable to open the online application. Could you please help me?
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are they worth applying,,will they give LORs,,please reply,,are they better than private clinics??
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Hey guys, how do i have to fill these forms? on the Adobe ? how will the dean sign? do i have to scan and send them?

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I have been accepted for april-may 2016. Have you heard from anyone who has been there? How is it?
hello,,Have u done electives at Herbert wertheim college of medicine?How was ur experience,please give some info
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hello,,i am an IMG from India,will u please share your knowledge about HWCOM,,is it worthy?
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I am not sure about the extra fee, but even with that fee I am guessing it would be a bargain since we wouldn't have to go through the hassle of finding accommodations.
And I am not really sure about how early she applied to Sinai, but I am sure it was almost 9 months in advance.
Are you applying to any of the universities mentioned in the thread?
how wsa ur experience at HWCOM?is it woth applying for it?Please provide some info regarding electives at HWCOM
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IS it worth applying to HWCOM?
will They provide LOR after our elective,will there be good clinical experience?
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Please whatsapp me if you have rotations in May and June 2017 in FIU, I have them at that time.
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You have to get the dean to sign and scan and send.
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Dean should sign the application form, the agreement form, CV as well ? it doesn't say that ...
i made him sign the transcripts only

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i made him sign the transcripts only

aren't u suppose to send those initially before the acceptance ?
Not the CV. Only the agreement form and wherever they ask for the Dean's signature.
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Hey, sorry for the late reply. I just saw your message.
Initially all you have to send is your application form downloadable from their website and the documents which are stated on the application form.
You don't have to send the Health Insurance, Malpractice Insurance, Drug Screen and Criminal background Check along with your application for the elective. You can send those when you get accepted.
Regarding how you can fill in the form - you can download it as a PDF, and depending on the version of Adobe you have you can fill it in on your PC itself. You will however have to print it out to sign it. You can then re-scan it and send it along with all your other documents via an e-mail. They'll respond immediately if there is a problem. They're quick to respond.
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I haven't done the elective yet. I've been accepted for a Cardiology and Emergency Medicine Elective for the months of February and March - 2017.
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I had a classmate who did his elective there and he said it was a terrible experience. Try to do your electives from reputable institutions. $3000 USD is a lot of money.
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Hey guys, I just reached this topic out of curiosity because I had been accepted at HWCOM and I cancelled it.
They were very inconsistent, as I'm sure a lot of you would have noticed with the discrepancies in the requirements. I had to keep calling them all the time to update me with the location of my two electives. 10 days before the start date I find out that they are both OPDs (barely any rounds/wards) with 2 doctors just affiliated to FIU who actually have their own private practice that runs 4-5 days a week. Then I kinda ran a background check and realised that the place is just 5 years old and not even in the top 200 universities in the country. I was also advised by my family and friends in the US that florida is known for fake universities. With a shady background, no accomodation even untill a week before the start date, and a questionable elective description, I got it cancelled and received a certain amount back .
This was just my experience, I'm sure there are people out there who found it fruitful as well. It's true, something is better than nothing. At least you can add an elective to our CV in the end, weather or not its a good experience.
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I almost forgot to add that a friend of mine had an okay experience there. I guess it depends on your luck.
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Hey guys, I just reached this topic out of curiosity because I had been accepted at HWCOM and I cancelled it.
They were very inconsistent, as I'm sure a lot of you would have noticed with the discrepancies in the requirements. I had to keep calling them all the time to update me with the location of my two electives. 10 days before the start date I find out that they are both OPDs (barely any rounds/wards) with 2 doctors just affiliated to FIU who actually have their own private practice that runs 4-5 days a week. Then I kinda ran a background check and realised that the place is just 5 years old and not even in the top 200 universities in the country. I was also advised by my family and friends in the US that florida is known for fake universities. With a shady background, no accomodation even untill a week before the start date, and a questionable elective description, I got it cancelled and received a certain amount back .
This was just my experience, I'm sure there are people out there who found it fruitful as well. It's true, something is better than nothing. At least you can add an elective to our CV in the end, weather or not its a good experience.
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Well first of it's not a fake university. It's a huge university and everyone knows about FIU in Miami.
FIU also known as Florida International University was established in 1965 that is about 51 years ago.
Their Medical college named as Herbert Wertheim College of Medicine also known as HWCOM was established in 2006 that is about 10 years ago. Their Medical College apart from being a modern medical college is also a community medical college which means it does not have it's own hospital but has affiliations with other hospitals and clinics where these electives take place. The HWCOM's students, Carribean students and the IMG's rotate in the same affiliate site.
Regarding the mostly OPD thing mentioned in the post above, in the email they mention this if your elective is mostly inpatient or mostly outpatient and also the document that enlists all their electives mentions these things in detail and then it's your choice if you wanna opt for the one that is mostly outpatient or the one that is mostly inpatient.

Regarding accomodation, no university provides housing for short term also if you ask hwcom they will let you know regarding your site so that you can book your housing in advance like via airbnb.
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I am with andy on this One, if you read about the clinical rotations page they give you, you will get to know a lot about the elective. Yes, the institute doesn't have a residency program but that doesn't mean its not a good elective.

Also cancelling 10 days before, you might have lost a ton of cash. You should have just attended it rather than waste all that money, it's was a huge loss I feel for you.
Regarding the LOR, you get the scanned LOR mailed to you at the end of the rotation, if you request it. I had a senior who went there last year and she said a lot of the rotations are standard but some are really good.

Regarding it being a medical school, its actually a good school and the medical students from that college have match into really good residency programs (University of Miami, Jacksonville...etc.)

This is rotation, good or bad, if it will help you with your CS and networking why not go for it.

Please don't mislead people.
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I am with andy on this One, if you read about the clinical rotations page they give you, you will get to know a lot about the elective. Yes, the institute doesn't have a residency program but that doesn't mean its not a good elective.

Also cancelling 10 days before, you might have lost a ton of cash. You should have just attended it rather than waste all that money, it's was a huge loss I feel for you.
Regarding the LOR, you get the scanned LOR mailed to you at the end of the rotation, if you request it. I had a senior who went there last year and she said a lot of the rotations are standard but some are really good.

Regarding it being a medical school, its actually a good school and the medical students from that college have match into really good residency programs (University of Miami, Jacksonville...etc.)

This is rotation, good or bad, if it will help you with your CS and networking why not go for it.

Please don't mislead people.
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Hey guys, I just reached this topic out of curiosity because I had been accepted at HWCOM and I cancelled it.
They were very inconsistent, as I'm sure a lot of you would have noticed with the discrepancies in the requirements. I had to keep calling them all the time to update me with the location of my two electives. 10 days before the start date I find out that they are both OPDs (barely any rounds/wards) with 2 doctors just affiliated to FIU who actually have their own private practice that runs 4-5 days a week. Then I kinda ran a background check and realised that the place is just 5 years old and not even in the top 200 universities in the country. I was also advised by my family and friends in the US that florida is known for fake universities. With a shady background, no accomodation even untill a week before the start date, and a questionable elective description, I got it cancelled and received a certain amount back .
This was just my experience, I'm sure there are people out there who found it fruitful as well. It's true, something is better than nothing. At least you can add an elective to our CV in the end, weather or not its a good experience.
Good luck everyone

It's not a fake university LOL ....
I just started and attended orientation and there are many students here from all over the world plus Caribbean medical students doing rotations at the same clinical sites as our electives! It all depends on who you are assigned to and what you make out of it. You have to let your doctor know you are interested in the specialty and want experience, most of them will try to show you as much as they physically can. It's not the same as a huge university hospital... but to be honest most of us matching as IMGs will end up in similar conditions working at community hospitals unless you are a U.S. citizen with amazing step scores and references... then you will have a chance at a prestigious residency spot.
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I am with andy on this One, if you read about the clinical rotations page they give you, you will get to know a lot about the elective. Yes, the institute doesn't have a residency program but that doesn't mean its not a good elective.

Also cancelling 10 days before, you might have lost a ton of cash. You should have just attended it rather than waste all that money, it's was a huge loss I feel for you.
Regarding the LOR, you get the scanned LOR mailed to you at the end of the rotation, if you request it. I had a senior who went there last year and she said a lot of the rotations are standard but some are really good.

Regarding it being a medical school, its actually a good school and the medical students from that college have match into really good residency programs (University of Miami, Jacksonville...etc.)

This is rotation, good or bad, if it will help you with your CS and networking why not go for it.

Please don't mislead people.
yes, exactly. You never know, the doctors you will be assigned to have contacts with MANY MANY MANY other physicians in the area that can help you obtain AN INTERVIEW. No one will help you obtain a residency spot just like that, but many of these electives will help you get an interview which is a great start.
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I'm sorry I did not mean to mislead anyone.
I honestly remember reading that the medical college is 5 years old. I apologise if I'm recalling that wrong.
I was just informed by my friends that florida is known for fake colleges. I never said that this particular place is fake or not
Yes I know I'm responsible for accommodation, but it wasn't possible to even look for one without knowing what area am I going to be in. By the time I was informed, safe accommodation at reasonable price was difficult to find although I tried a lot.
Yes they are affiliated to a lot of hospital sites, but I wasn't assigned to any of them. I was given a preceptors name who has his own private practice and came to FIU to take a few lectures. Also his private practice was opd for 4 days a week for a few hours.
And I did mention that a friend of mine had an okay experience there. So it depends on your luck, who you are assigned to and eveything.

It wasn't just that the university is bad or anything. It was the situation given that the rotation wasnt so appealing for the amount and living situation.
I've said it before, this was just my experience. I'm sure there are people out there who had a good experience too.

And ya, weather the teaching is good or not, at least you can add an elective to your CV. I've said that too. Not trying to discourage anyone

Actually why am I into this now. This was so long ago I have no idea why I reached this thread and shared my experience
Okay bye everyone. Good luck again
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By fake I mean they are not permitted to take international visiting students. There was a link somewhere regarding rules in Florida . But I haven't seen the details so I can't be sure about this. I hope it's all good

Imagine being given what was basically an observership with a private practitioner. It wasn't how it was described in the emails. I was told only later on that I won't get to come to any hospital.

I know the place exists with real students in it lol. It didn't go so good for me, but I genuinely hope it goes well for you @bluexberry. I agree with you, something is better than nothing !
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I have been accepted for the months of June & July 2016. Any one else here have electives during this slot? Any experiences?
Have you taken your HIPAA course ??
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I understand if my situation is not very relatable. I come from a conservative family in Syria and I've barely stepped outside the country. To my parents the idea of sitting alone with a nurse and a "35 year old male preceptor" (stress on that. Yes, dad looked it up &#128529 in miami was "appalling" 😂
Anyways it all worked out. We relocated to Egypt and I've started my residency here 🙃
Inshallh it's going to work out for all of you as well!
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Have you taken your HIPAA course ??
I'm using www.hipaaexams.com for it. When and What dept. are your rotations in?
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After you get accepted they send you an email containing the link to the background check website. But the drug screen, you're supposed to do it on your own. At least that is what I think. I did get accepted, but I still have to complete these formalities - the background check, drug screen and malpractice insurance.

Makes no point doing all of this along with your application it self. So, if you haven't received an acceptance from them, don't do it just yet. You probably will get accepted and you can do it after that.
Thank you for the reply.Regarding the drug screen just again a re-assurance that i can send it after getting accepted right.
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I haven't done the elective yet. I've been accepted for a Cardiology and Emergency Medicine Elective for the months of February and March - 2017.
How am I supposed to give the dates for eg: like jan- feb, mar- apri, may-jun, or can I give it like only feb mar april for the 3 months respectively.
What should we write about the desired no. of electives.?
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Hey, sorry for the late reply. I just saw your message.
Initially all you have to send is your application form downloadable from their website and the documents which are stated on the application form.
You don't have to send the Health Insurance, Malpractice Insurance, Drug Screen and Criminal background Check along with your application for the elective. You can send those when you get accepted.
Regarding how you can fill in the form - you can download it as a PDF, and depending on the version of Adobe you have you can fill it in on your PC itself. You will however have to print it out to sign it. You can then re-scan it and send it along with all your other documents via an e-mail. They'll respond immediately if there is a problem. They're quick to respond.
For th esignature, they have something like elctronically digitalised signature. Should i sign using that or should i print-- sign---scan and email to them?
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Hey, sorry for the late reply. I just saw your message.
Initially all you have to send is your application form downloadable from their website and the documents which are stated on the application form.
You don't have to send the Health Insurance, Malpractice Insurance, Drug Screen and Criminal background Check along with your application for the elective. You can send those when you get accepted.
Regarding how you can fill in the form - you can download it as a PDF, and depending on the version of Adobe you have you can fill it in on your PC itself. You will however have to print it out to sign it. You can then re-scan it and send it along with all your other documents via an e-mail. They'll respond immediately if there is a problem. They're quick to respond.
How can i send by 2 passport photographs along with the CV? Should i attach them to the CV? But 2 photos where should I attach them?
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For th esignature, they have something like elctronically digitalised signature. Should i sign using that or should i print-- sign---scan and email to them?
Not sure about the digitised signature. I didn't do it like that. I just printed it out, signed it and scanned it.
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How can i send by 2 passport photographs along with the CV? Should i attach them to the CV? But 2 photos where should I attach them?
@Kv91
How do i do these?
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How do i do these?
They mean two passport size photographs, scanned side by side on the same page.
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They mean two passport size photographs, scanned side by side on the same page.
Thank you.
Did you apply to Mt. Sinai. I am applying now. Will that be a problem?
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How am I supposed to give the dates for eg: like jan- feb, mar- apri, may-jun, or can I give it like only feb mar april for the 3 months respectively.
What should we write about the desired no. of electives.?
@kv91; And for these? How is one supposed to give the dates?
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@kv91; And for these? How is one supposed to give the dates?
Yes, I did apply to Mount Sinai, but my application reached them just a few days before the last date. So, they sent me my application fee back and told me they couldn't accommodate me into the Program on such short notice. If you're applying well in advance, at least 9 months, then there is a good chance you'll get through. As for the dates at FIU, you have to give them dates that start on the first Monday of any month. I followed the dates as given by Weill Cornell's website.
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Yes, I did apply to Mount Sinai, but my application reached them just a few days before the last date. So, they sent me my application fee back and told me they couldn't accommodate me into the Program on such short notice. If you're applying well in advance, at least 9 months, then there is a good chance you'll get through. As for the dates at FIU, you have to give them dates that start on the first Monday of any month. I followed the dates as given by Weill Cornell's website.
Thank you for your patience in answering my queries kv91 Really appreciate it.
Did you get accepted into Cornell? I am applying now. Is there any other source I can contact you. Via an Email may be.
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Thank you for your patience in answering my queries kv91 Really appreciate it.
Did you get accepted into Cornell? I am applying now. Is there any other source I can contact you. Via an Email may be.
How do i send my application forms to Mt. Sinai? Is it through POST/ Courier/VIA an email?
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How do i send my application forms to Mt. Sinai? Is it through POST/ Courier/VIA an email?
They said they are going to accept the application forms from January. so, that means aren't they not gonna accept if i send it to them may be in a month.?
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They said they are going to accept the application forms from January. so, that means aren't they not gonna accept if i send it to them may be in a month.?
Why take a risk and waste the $1000 application fee.
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Courier.
You can send by post as well but hey, india post isn't reliable.
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Courier.
You can send by post as well but hey, india post isn't reliable.
Thank you Andygill
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