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Question can i still apply for an elective?

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i "graduate" in july 2014 (we just have the ceremony but we're not done yet)
I write my medical licensing exam in sept 2014, and then i get my diploma sometime in dec. 2014.
so the question is, am i still allowed to apply for an elective btw aug- nov if i dont get my diploma till december ???

and if i Have to apply for an externship,is it easy to get one? ( 'cos i've been searching for ANYTHING but God it's exhausting! ) or shld i throw my money *cough* away *cough* at one of these $$$-draining paid externships?
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If I was in your shoes, I would definitely try and get an elective while you are a student at an academic institution. You have much better opportunities to get hands-on experience, work with attendings, interact with residents, etc, than if you get your experience after you graduate. The most ideal situation would be to try and get a rotation where you want to match at. I can't answer your question about technicalities of your graduation and diploma date. I image you've probably checked with your school about that, right? Do you have a school/type of rotation in mind?

I was already a graduate when I did my U.S. clinical experience. It really wasn't easy. Getting hands-on experience at a quality placement after you graduate is immensely difficult. I ended up with an observership that was hands-off, which worked fine in my situation (as I wasn't necessarily looking for a LOR at that point). I just wanted to be able to say I had some experience in the U.S. system. It may not be right for you to go that route.

I'd be cautious in general about paid placements, although I don't have personal experience with them. I'd make sure you can get quality experience and a credible LOR writer.
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here's my gist,
i "graduate" in july 2014 (we just have the ceremony but we're not done yet)
I write my medical licensing exam in sept 2014, and then i get my diploma sometime in dec. 2014.
so the question is, am i still allowed to apply for an elective btw aug- nov if i dont get my diploma till december ???

and if i Have to apply for an externship,is it easy to get one? ( 'cos i've been searching for ANYTHING but God it's exhausting! ) or shld i throw my money *cough* away *cough* at one of these $$$-draining paid externships?
First off: What diploma are you talking about? and which medical licensing exam/Step are you talking about?
If you haven't graduated why aren't you applying for electives? You do know that you have to be a student to apply for electives right?
You can get some USCE without using paid services. Do your homework and check out old posts on this forums. There is a lot of detailed info on old posts here. As far as easy goes, that is upto one's own perspective.
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First off: What diploma are you talking about? and which medical licensing exam/Step are you talking about?
If you haven't graduated why aren't you applying for electives? You do know that you have to be a student to apply for electives right?
You can get some USCE without using paid services. Do your homework and check out old posts on this forums. There is a lot of detailed info on old posts here. As far as easy goes, that is upto one's own perspective.
i'm talking about the Diploma you get when you finish med sch. and about my local medical licensing exam, the final exam in med sch, the one you take when u graduate ( not the USMLE)
Yes, i'm aware you have to be a student when you apply for an elective. If i apply now and get accepted, i'll probably get placed sometime in oct-nov, that's why i'm asking if i still qualify as a ''student'' then. I finish my sch curriculum/syllabus in july but i dont get my diploma till december, so am i still a ''medical student'' in btw?
I understand that electives are more valuable than externships, but i dont want to waste money applying for an elective if i knw i will be rejected
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i'm talking about the Diploma you get when you finish med sch. and about my local medical licensing exam, the final exam in med sch, the one you take when u graduate ( not the USMLE)
Yes, i'm aware you have to be a student when you apply for an elective. If i apply now and get accepted, i'll probably get placed sometime in oct-nov, that's why i'm asking if i still qualify as a ''student'' then. I finish my sch curriculum/syllabus in july but i dont get my diploma till december, so am i still a ''medical student'' in btw?
I understand that electives are more valuable than externships, but i dont want to waste money applying for an elective if i knw i will be rejected
Well, you won't be a student once you have finished your course work. You could take an LOA and apply for electives if you can. You need to submit a letter from your dean stating that you're still a student when you apply for electives so you might want to talk about it with someone in your school. I would strongly suggest doing electives since externships and observerships don't hold much value. BTW which country are you from? I see you have given your step1 so your chances of getting electives are pretty decent. IMO you should give a try, there are lot of places which have no application fee.
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since externships and observerships don't hold much value.
wow, didnt think externships were that bad , i'm trying to see what i can do with the few months i have left but ive just been chill about it thinking at worst, i'll do an observership or externship . I'll take ur advice, i'll chase after that elective like it's my only hope
and u say places with no application fee?!! WHAT?!!! what's wrong with my google search engine? 'cos i never seem to find these places. and the tuition fees of the ones i see are like $3000, i feel sorry for my old guy...
btw, i'm nigerian, but i'm studying in Romania
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At least in my school you are a student until you take the board exam.
I am done with all my exams but thinking about postponing my board exam just to be able to take some electives.

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wow, didnt think externships were that bad , i'm trying to see what i can do with the few months i have left but ive just been chill about it thinking at worst, i'll do an observership or externship . I'll take ur advice, i'll chase after that elective like it's my only hope
and u say places with no application fee?!! WHAT?!!! what's wrong with my google search engine? 'cos i never seem to find these places. and the tuition fees of the ones i see are like $3000, i feel sorry for my old guy...
btw, i'm nigerian, but i'm studying in Romania
I was talking about application fee not tuition fee but there are still places which cost less than <1000$ a month.
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