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I got my result last week and Alhamdulilah i was more than happy
i've been a silent reader of this forum mostly for the past 10-11 months so i guess it's time to give my feedback to all my fellow step-ers.

I was an average student throughout my Med School barely scraping through some final exams and never got anything above a 70% (Aggregate). In fact, in my final year i was amongst the bottom third of the people who passed so yeah needless to say that i was average at best!

Preparation:

Time:

12 months of studying
I actually took like 13.5 coz i was unable to study anything for 1.5 months after my first read due to personal reasons
I used to study 6 days a week and usually anywhere from 6-8 hours a day in the start eventually i took it up to 8-10 but thereis that 1 day every week that you can hardly study 4 :/
My advice is to keep 1 day of the week off for your friends and family and donít bother with kaplans uworld or any of that stuff on that day. If you try to have a 7 days a week routine you'll suffer a burnout every month and well that's very counterproductive! Believe me! I've tried..

Q) What is the minimum time one needs for a 250+ in step 1?
Answer: Varies from student to student whenever your nbmes tell you 250+ you are all set!
Q) How much time should i spend on my first and subsequent reads?
Answer: Well donít spread your subjects over a very long period of time because by the time you get to the last, you'll forget the first and the vicious cycle will continue. I guess a good estimate would be from 3-4 months for your first read. I know this because i took about 5 months for my first read which i felt wasnít the right way to go

Q) How many reads of Kaplans/books that I am using are enough?
Answer: More than 2 are counterproductive! Honestly I did two and I shifted from Kaplans to FA during my second read which was a very good decision.

Books used:

Pathology :

Most of you will probably not believe me but the most important book for the usmle is Pathoma! PATHOMA PATHOMA PATHOMA!
I had also bought Goljan but I never opened it, in fact I totally forgot that I had it lying somewhere and it wasnít until after my result that I found it while cleaning my study table and it was as clean as a whistle not a mark on it! That being said however I would heed some caution to all ye who enter-eth the beastís lair known as Step 1, There are maybe 1 or 2 chapters that you should look up from Goljan like NUTRITION and urinary/rectal incontinence. I had quite a few questions on nutrition and it is a topic that is at best, weakly covered by pathoma. I performed quite well on nutrition though because I took educated guesses on all the questions and managed to get them right. Other than that Pathoma = 200 pages of high yield stuff and the lectures are wonderful. Dr Sattar is a life saver! He will explain everything in the most simplest of ways and will make sure it is etched somewhere in your memory when the time comes. Goljan on the other hand is a beast, 600 pages a lot of photos and has a lot of information other than pathology like pharmacology, physiology, biochemistry etc. So going through Goljan one loses track of what is high yield and what is low yield. That being said however Goljan is the undisputed king of all pathology texts for step 1 and if you want to take 2 extra months just for Goljan, go for it! I mean why give the step 1 early, isnít it fun to prolong your misery for another 2 months? :P


Q) Goljan vs Pathoma ?
Answer: Pathoma Pathoma Pathoma Pathoma!!!
Q) Is pathology the most heavily tested exam subject?
Answer: Yes it is! About 50%-70% of your exam will involve pathology in one way or the other. Mine was closer to 50-60% I guess.

Pharmacology:
I used Kaplan Pharma for my first read and annotated my FA 2013 while doing my second read. Kaplan is a good book and Dr Raymonís lectures are awesome! You donít really need anything else for pharmacology.

Q) How was pharmacology on the exam?
Answer: well, it was a mixture but I found it easier than the other subjects and not as heavily tested as I had expected.
Q) I keep forgetting drugs what is the solution?
Answer: well there are two ways about it, you can either do a lot of pharmacology questions I did both the Kaplan Q bank and Uworld or you can make your own flash cards and flowcharts. Either way active learning works best!
Q) Can I skip the general pharmacology part?
Answer: NO! General pharmacology is more conceptual than cramming thus is heavily tested on the exam because they can twist around the concepts to mess with your head but if you think them through they are pretty easy to answer.
Physiology:
I used Kaplan physiology here too, the book is simple enough and the lectures are great. I do find Conrad Fischer wastes a lot of time but he helps you memorize with his stupid dances and songs. The nephron guy is kind of annoying but if you can get over that, his lectures are ok. Dr Kudrath kicks ass though!
Some people go for BRS and I think it saves some time so do whatever suits you. The weird thing about physiology is that I couldnít find a single exam question that was pure physiology. They will ALWAYS mix it up with Pathology or Pharmacology. We donít live in an era where they will ask you you about the value for splay or the laplace law! That time is gone! An example follows, imagine they give you a respiratory function graph of a normal person and ask about TLC FRC VC changes depicted by arrows in a patient with COPD. Get the idea? Quite a few physiology questions will involve arrows so know your calcium metabolism pathways and renin angiotensin systems like your girlfriends phone number!


Q) How best to prepare for physiology?
Answer: Make sure you understand the concepts! Memorization just wonít work here as most questions with arrows pointing up down sideways will require you to take a concept and apply it. I suggest uworld physiology and pathophysiology to be the best question materials.
Q) Iím getting hammered in Uworld Pathophysiology I got an aggregate of 60% what do I do?
Answer: Calm down and drink a glass of cold water! I was getting a low score too as Uworld pathophysiology is really hard just focus on learning the concepts and remember uworld is about the learning not the scoring!

Biochemistry:

Like most IMGs I was horrible at this when I started mainly because it had been 5 years since I had even touched a biochemistry book and out medical school biochemistry was well.. crappy to say the least. We did not have molecular biology or genetics or the receptors (tyrosine kinase and all that stuff) chapters in our med school so all in all it was like doing this subject for the first time. Kaplan biochemistry does a wonderful job of covering everything that is tested in the exam and I shifted my entire Kaplan biochem to my FA during my second read. I left some of the molecular bio stuff on Kaplan so had to re-do that in the end and since I wasnít being too risky I did genetics at the end from both Kaplan and FA and I did get a high performance on genetics! I donít know about IMGs using any other book so go with Kaplan. The biochemistry exam questions are not that abundant in my experience and vary in difficulty from being super hard to easy. Molecular biology is crappy with rats and their cousins popping up here and there. Genetics is a bit tricky so learn the concepts and know the inheritance of diseases! Btw that stuff you thought was useless in the Kaplan book, like Dolichol Phosphate, N and O linked glycosylation, Leucine Zippers and the chapters on receptors.. Well IT IS IMPORTANT just give it a couple of days and youíll be done.

Q) I suck at Uworld biochemistry I feel like giving up what do I do?
Answer: Iím sure I sucked much harder but I have a high performance J Uworld Biochemistry is a notch harder than the exam.
Q) What extra materials can I use?
Answer: Kaplan Genetics and Kaplan Cell Biology Qbanks
Q) Do I have to know each and every minor detail about the biochem pathways?
Answer: No just learn the high yield stuff. FA pathways are more than enough

Immunology:

Used Kaplan Immunology and it was enough. I did this pretty early in my first read and since my first read was spread over 5 months I had totally forgotten everything about this L so I had to re-do it and this time I did it well made concepts annotated FA did both Uworld and Kaplan Qbank made sure I would never have to open Kapan Immunology again. Learn all the stupid CD markers, Interleukins and make sure you have a good concept about this subject because it is heavily tested. Btw, make sure to know all the lymph drainage pathways given in FA since you will find those tested on the exam more than once! The Kaplan lectures are pretty decent so use them if you find yourself panicking!

Q) Was Kaplan Qbank helpful?
Answer: Not a lot, it was a bit of an overkill but if you have time go for it!
Q) Do we have to know all the vaccines?
Answer: Yes know them all, they will be tested!
Q) I finally got through learning the whole complement pathway what next?
Answer: You just wasted a lot of time :P just know it generally! The diseases and deficiencies!
Q) Do I have to learn the ENTIRE hypersensitivity table in FA?
Answer: Yes you do! It will be tested on the exam!
Q) Those autoantibodies they arenít important right?
Answer: Yeah they arenít if you want to drop a couple of questions on the exam :P
Q) So what are you trying to say?
Answer: Know everything there is to know about immunology from First Aid, it is a high yield subject and cannot be overlooked.

Microbiology:

I used Kaplan Microbiology for my frist read noted everything down on FA during my second read and this was one of my strongest subjects. Luckily, I was very heavily tested on this on my exam day and there all these weird bugs that I had never seen on uworld or elsewhere. This is one subject that is very easy to score on, know it well and make sure you note down all the extra stuff on FA since FA is a little deficient on microbiology. Then again maybe I just had an exam that had all the weird microbes :S Anyway know all the +ive stranded, Ėive stranded, double stranded, single stranded, married, divorced, single bugs out there! I had a high performance here too.


Q) Gen bacterio is low yield right?
Answer: No, know the toxins and which viruses have a membrane derived from nucleus and cell membrane of the human cells and all that other stuff from FA.
Q) Iíve never heard of anyone being tested on strongyloides stercolaris and west nile virus Iíll just skip them is that okay?
Answer: I havenít either but that doesnít mean I WASNíT tested on them :/ Honestly I had the weirdest bugs popping up here and there
Q) So I should pick up a big fat book on bugs and memorize it?
Answer: No just go through FA with annotations from Uworld and put side notes for the bugs that are missing in FA like Trichenella, Trichuris Trichura, etc

Anatomy:
I used Kaplan anatomy and it was enough. I mean I did get weird questions that arenít on Kaplan or FA but I used my educated guesses and got them right. This is another one of my higher performance areas, know the spine anatomy well. Know your crossections well and I guess Kaplan and Uworld images for CT scans Xrays were enough for me. Tricky subject though I had muscles that I had forgotten since my second year of med school. You might have to stick to your Kaplan till the end for this. Neuroanatomy was very doable from Kaplan and Uworld so was gross anatomy. My embryology was really tricky and I had to think really hard before attempting every question but got them right. Histology is one subject that isnít tested very heavily on the exam I barely remember seeing a question maybe two on that.


Q) So should I do all the limb muscles again from a big textbook?
Answer: No that would be a waste of time just know the Kaplan Anatomy Text very well
Q) Neuroanatomy scares the crap out of me what do I do?
Answer: Find a study partner go over it with them. Kaplan neuroanatomy lectures will help a lot the guy does a decent job and I listened to them twice! I went over neuroanatomy with a friend and aced it on the exam.
Q) I was thinking about leaving the first 150 pages of histology what do you think?
Answer: I think you are making a very smart move just go over the cell biology chapter if you must and the bone chapters other than that skip it! I skipped the entire 150 altogether!

Behavior Sciences:
As an IMG this was my Achilles heel and I did put a lot of effort into this subject before the exam. I gave it 2 weeks the first time and about 7 days the second time. I was slow the first time as I had some other concerns to attend. I used Kaplan Lecture Notes and Conrads 100 cases for ethics for this i donít know about BRS or any other book since this is what all the people around me used too. This is especially tricky for IMGs because our ethics and those in the US are very well different to say the least and I was always stuck between 2 options that looked right on the exam. I annotated my FA with all the extra info from Kaplan and found FA to be better for DSM5. Btw, make sure you have a general idea about the changes in DSM 5 like which diseases have been REMOVED. Donít waste your time on those and focus the rest. Conradís 100 cases can be done in a day, I did it in 6 hours though the exam didnít have any of those cases :/ The psychiatry portion and the sleep portion are pretty straightforward in both Kaplan and FA so just go over them. Also take a couple of hours to go over Medicare and Medicaid from Kaplan. The Kaplan lectures help a lot so be sure to watch them atleast once especially the physician patient relationshiop and the rules lecture.


Q) I am getting worried that FA is not enough for Psychiatry I think Iíll stick to Kaplan is that ok?
Answer: Yes it is but FA when annotated slightly covers everything and Iíd rather have everything at one place rather than jumping between different books at the end wouldnít you?
Q) Iíve heard about people doing Step 2 Uworld for Psychiatry is that worth it?
Answer: If you have time why the hell not! Questions make a man perfect! I did it since I wasnít very confident in this subject and found it slightly helpful but you can skip it if you want itís not an absolute essential!

Biostatistics:
Perhaps my least favorite subject :P I got hammered on it in the exam too I used Kaplan lecture notes for this and along with that there are these 30$ uworld notes on Biostats that were wonderful for explaining a lot of my misconceptions! Other than this a few friends of mine did the questions from High Yield Biostatistics and said that they were very helpful and can be done in a day. So Iíd suggest those too if you have time. My exam did not test NPV, PPV, SN, SP or any of those simple calculations L I got hammered by all those stupid questions that took a concept and twisted it like a pretzel! Then again maybe I just had a bad day with this subject :/ Uworld biostatistics does a wonderful job with the questions too! I did my biostatistics in 2 days the first time and 1.5 days the second time did the Uworld notes in 1 day too.

Q) I cant seem to get my head around this subject I tried everything I feel like puking what do I do?
Answer: Find a study partner! That helped me should help you too!
Q) Anything else i can use?
Answer: Step 2 Uworld, It has 1 block of biostatistics that you can do IF YOU HAVE TOO MUCH TIME on your hands

My Preparation

I spent a total of 5 months on my first read. Used to watch the lectures then read the text.
During my second read I annotated my First Aid 2013 and this took me another 4 months! I reviewed my FA twice after that before the exam.
I did one extra thing during my second read I used to do questions after finishing a subject. Uworld and sometimes from Kaplan Qbank would be my source for the questions but I found the Kaplan Qbank to be low yield except for Genetics and Cell Biology. Doing Questions after finishing a subject made me have a very strong grasp on my subjects and was a good way to go but did take a lot of time and indeed my second read stretched over 4 months. After I realized this I stopped doing questions finished my second read and took an online subscription of Uworld for 3 months did that till the exam and made sure to keep annotating my FA. I booked my exam date 2 months in advance and it was the day right after my Uworld Subscription ended. I had a plain simple reason for doing this, I wanted to be in touch with questions till the day before my exam and honestly my last 3 months were all about Uworld NBMEs and UWSAs. I must have done around 6500-7000 questions for the exam and thatís the key for a 250+! Questions Questions Questions! Active learning! I used the uworld as a learning tool didnít care if it was a 60% or a 100% all I cared about was learning new information and clearing my concepts! I never paid much heed to my uworld percentage that being said however, it sure is encouraging to see your uworld performance graph to rise steadily from block 1 to the last block!


Q) Is getting a pirated copy of offline Uworld enough for the exam?
Answer: NO! Do yourself a favor and get the online subscription! If you can pay over 3500$ for 3 exams you can afford it! The online Uworld gets updated every week and all the images, diagrams and tables are worth the 200$ for a 3 month subscription
Q) What is the best way to go about Uworld?
Answer: Whatever suits you! Timed, untimed, random, subjectwise! Take your pick! I did it random timed because I wanted to maximize my speed and give myself an exam-like feel.
Q) What is a good percentage in Uworld?
Answer: DO NOT USE UWORLD as an assessment tool! It is a learning tool think of it as a textbook!
Q) What about USMLE rx and Kaplan Qbank?
Answer: The more the merrier but depends on how much time you want to give to Step 1.

NBMEs, UWSAs and FRED:
Gave quite of few of these and at the end I started giving 1 nbme each week about 10 weeks before the exam

NBME 1: 162 (gave this after half of my second read was done)
NBME 4: 171 (10 weeks out)
NBME 7: 181 (9 weeks out)
NBME 11: 179 (8 weeks out)
UWSA 1: 260 (7 weeks out online)
NBME 13: 251 (6 weeks out online)
NBME 15: 245 (4 weeks out online)
UWSA 2: 265 (2 weeks out online)
NBME 16: 247 (1 week out online)
Fred Usmle: 90% (3 days out)
NBME 12: 186 (2 days out)

My thoughts, you can skip the UWSAs and the old NBMEs just do 2-3 latest NBMEs and in my experience I perhaps wasted money buying 3 NBMES. Just do 13,16 online as they are closest to the real exam in my experience. UWSAs are outdated and donít have much of a predictability value. Fred Usmle is very important for the exam do it twice if you can! Btw my offline nbme scores arenít the 3 digit scores, they are the number of correct questions!

Q) what is the best time to give a NBME exam?
Answer: Give 1 as u start your uworld or are mid-way through it and the next in 2-3 weeks then one as you end uworld to see how much you have improved. Best to take a date if you are getting near your desired score.
Q) Is it a smart move to give a NBME 2 days before the exam?
Answer: NO! I was retarded for doing that, if I had screwed it up gotten a 210 or something I would have gone into the exam in very low spirits so make sure you are done with all your NBMEs 1 week before the exam.

Exam Day:
Make sure to relax one day before the exam, hang out with friends youíve done all the hard work one more day wonít make you any smarter! Have a sleeping pill ready for the night before the exam I used zolpidem fell asleep in 15 minutes was up around 7:30 am and at the exam center at 8:15. The center was right next to my house so I was there in 5 minutes. Make sure to time you breaks properly I used to take a break after every block and take a walk outside in the sun for a minute or two eat something and then get to the next block. In case you have time left for a block and are done reviewing your marked questions add it to your break! I added about 9-10 minutes to my break!

My technique for solving MCQs was based on 3 steps
Step1: What topic is he asking me about?
Step2: What concept in particular is being tested
Step3: What is the answer?

After that Iíd go over to the answer options and look for the answer that I had deduced in my head in case I could not get to the answer in my head I would start striking out the options that I could and would eventually be left with 2 options at this point it would take a guess and move on!

So thatís It guys all done and dusted I scored a 251 !


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The best experience & guideline for IMGs, I ever read. Please share your exam experience about questions specially about anatomy(gross,neuro,images) & biostat. Thanx for sharing
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thank you for sharing such an experience, & congratulations for a wonderful score well deserved after hard working.

if i would choose one at the last month before my exam: to watch behavioral science kaplan vid for 2nd time or to do the Conrads book cases?

also am thinking of watching pathoma vid for 2nd time on the last month, give it like 4 days, is it a good idea?

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Very good score. But there is always room for some improvement. After you gave your exam, what do you think what changes(addition or modification) in your study plan would have make your score in 260+?
What do you say about DIT?
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Thank you! I went over my annotated FA 2013 with a friend. We used to give 1 day to each unit of FA and discuss everything in that chapter make sure we understood the content and then call it a day. Other than that the online Uworld helped a lot!
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thank you for sharing such an experience, & congratulations for a wonderful score well deserved after hard working.

if i would choose one at the last month before my exam: to watch behavioral science kaplan vid for 2nd time or to do the Conrads book cases?

also am thinking of watching pathoma vid for 2nd time on the last month, give it like 4 days, is it a good idea?

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Thank you!

If i HAD to choose i'd go with conrad's book as it takes 6 hours to go through once which is more than enough. I did not bother with it a second time.

I did listen to a few pathoma lectures for the second time because Dr Sattar makes memorization easier but going through all 30+ hours of lectures is a bit of an overkill is it not? I'd suggest doing questions or going through FA once more before the exam because if i was given another 4 days, i would have gone through a few FA chapters. That being said however, you'll hardly find any straight forward recall questions on the exam from FA! They make you think to derive the answer on almost all the questions.

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Thank you!

I've already stated that Uworld images + Kaplan Radiology was more than enough for all the CT Scans, etc. I did go over CT scans and brain sections from a couple of websites but they didnt help much.
Even though i hated Biostats, it was one of my stronger subjects on uworld, i was scoring an 85%+ aggregate. I found the exam questions to be a notch harder than uworld. I had no questions about calcuations, they kept asking me different weird stuff that i just couldnt get my head around. That being said however, you are bound to get hammered on a few subjects on the exam day otherwise we'd all be scoring a 270+ wouldn we?
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Thank you!
I will neither confirm nor deny that :P
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Very good score. But there is always room for some improvement. After you gave your exam, what do you think what changes(addition or modification) in your study plan would have make your score in 260+?
What do you say about DIT?
I went over one chapter of DIT i think it was GIT or Hem-Onc. After listening to it, i deleted the whole of DIT I didnt find it helpful but then again go over a couple of chapters, decide for yourself! What works for one man may not work for another!
I dont think there is anything i could have done to improve my preparation! But if i had more time i would go over my uworld marked questions again and my Annotated FA one more time!
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I would ask you.... What is your opinion of CMMRS ?
Thank You!! Unfortunately i never read CMMRS so i cant give you my personal opinion. Some of my friends did read it for the STEP 1 and they were happy with it.
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THANK YOU THANK YOU SOO MUCH! this is soo helpful! i m sure there are soo many people like me who are in a search of similar people who have rocked the step 1!! i m also hoping for a huge score!! wish me luck!!

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Congrats on the score mate!

How did you find the exam after you finished the whole thing? Did you find it easy or hard, and were you expecting such a score after finishing the exam?

Also, how was anatomy and neuroanatomy? Were they do-able or weird?

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THANK YOU THANK YOU SOO MUCH! this is soo helpful! i m sure there are soo many people like me who are in a search of similar people who have rocked the step 1!! i m also hoping for a huge score!! wish me luck!!

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Congrats on the score mate!

How did you find the exam after you finished the whole thing? Did you find it easy or hard, and were you expecting such a score after finishing the exam?

Also, how was anatomy and neuroanatomy? Were they do-able or weird?

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Kindly read my Anatomy portion again. They were do-able even the hand muscles and leg muscles that i had not heard of before. I narrowed it down to 2 choices and almost always got it right. Neuro was hard but was do-able from UW and Kaplan/FA
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I forgot to mention this earlier now i cant seem to edit the post :/

One last thing, what is the proper way to do uworld?
My technique, i used to do a block a day and then i used to open my FA and annotate it. Not just annotate it, learn the content and the topics tested on the block. Say my first question on the block was Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy, i would open that topic in FA go over the Uworld explanation and then the FA topic add all the extra stuff in FA and then make sure i knew everything about HCM. Let's say the next question was friedrich's ataxtia, i'd open that topic in FA and repeat the procedure. Making sure i do my FA atleast twice during my uworld subscription and atleast once after i did all the 48 blocks before going in for the exam.

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Thank u so much for taking timw to write every detail. And congrats on getting a realy awesome score.
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Can u please share what u did in ur last month of prep? I have 6 weeks left . I hav still to go througj second round of uworld . I scored 161 on nbme 7 last month then 172 on nbme 3 after 2 weeks. I know they r old forms so dont realy help much is assesing according to current exam pattern. Goin to solve nbme 11 this sunday.
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Can u please share what u did in ur last month of prep? I have 6 weeks left . I hav still to go througj second round of uworld . I scored 161 on nbme 7 last month then 172 on nbme 3 after 2 weeks. I know they r old forms so dont realy help much is assesing according to current exam pattern. Goin to solve nbme 11 this sunday.

I went through NBME 15,NBME 16,UWSA2, FRED and NBME12 in that order precisely. Other than this i did my uworld marked/wrong questions and FA one last time. 6 weeks is enough time to polish things up, if you are scoring 172 then that means you are somewhere near the 240 mark. I would suggest you do the latest NBMEs. NBME 3 is a very old nbme and it is not a good predictor of your score. NBME 13 and 16 are the two big ones in my opinion! and after these two NBME 15 is the one you should consider taking.
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Thanks . i will solve recent nbme to see how much i hav improved. And i mihht need soem advice in future , hope u will help. Congrats again for being done with step1 for good :-)
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I went through NBME 15,NBME 16,UWSA2, FRED and NBME12 in that order precisely. Other than this i did my uworld marked/wrong questions and FA one last time. 6 weeks is enough time to polish things up, if you are scoring 172 then that means you are somewhere near the 240 mark. I would suggest you do the latest NBMEs. NBME 3 is a very old nbme and it is not a good predictor of your score. NBME 13 and 16 are the two big ones in my opinion! and after these two NBME 15 is the one you should consider taking.
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Hi doc, previously 5 weeks ago i took nbme form 7 and got there 173which is just 240, reviewed again first aid, pass Usmle World , and pass Pathoma video one time with some marked signs and annotations directily in first aid as mentioned as high yield or super high yield, which form you recommend form me to take at this time??? please give me some porpose
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Hi doc, previously 5 weeks ago i took nbme form 7 and got there 173which is just 240, reviewed again first aid, pass Usmle World , and pass Pathoma video one time with some marked signs and annotations directily in first aid as mentioned as high yield or super high yield, which form you recommend form me to take at this time??? please give me some porpose

If you want to take an exam date go for 13 or 16 to check where you stand. otherwise 15,12,11 are a good choice in that order.
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If you want to take an exam date go for 13 or 16 to check where you stand. otherwise 15,12,11 are a good choice in that order.
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Thank you very much, what score is good to go for exam? when i can say that time coming??? 500 is a gold standard? and what minimum score do you think is generally good?

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Hey Doc. Subby i took nbme 16 and 13 online . I got 251 in both of them. My aim is 260+ but i cant score 260+ although i tried my best. What is your advice? I have 2 weeks to go.

Second question is my uworld cumulative is 61% . İs it enough to get 260+?
I found uworld extremely hard.
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Hey Doc. Subby i took nbme 16 and 13 online . I got 251 in both of them. My aim is 260+ but i cant score 260+ although i tried my best. What is your advice? I have 2 weeks to go.

Second question is my uworld cumulative is 61% . İs it enough to get 260+?
I found uworld extremely hard.
Paradoxicaly seen but, my cumulative on Usmle World was 59% but on nbme form 7get only 173 on three digit score??? what score do you had on nbme7 form? just for me to compare and understand what is a problem with my test, thanks...
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Whatever score you are aiming for For me 240 was a good score but i scored 11 points more than that When you hit your desired score on the NBMEs i'd say go for it!
I guess a minimum score of 240 in the NBMEs means you are good to go!
Give your nbme 16 or 13 and if you get your desired score just book a date!

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Hey Doc. Subby i took nbme 16 and 13 online . I got 251 in both of them. My aim is 260+ but i cant score 260+ although i tried my best. What is your advice? I have 2 weeks to go.

Second question is my uworld cumulative is 61% . İs it enough to get 260+?
I found uworld extremely hard.
Congrats! A 250+ means you are all set, it's all a game of nerves now. I'm sure you have studied really hard for the exam and another 2 weeks is not going to make too much of a difference on you exam score.
A 251 on both 13 and 16 does not mean that this will be the score on your actual exam. I have seen people get 10 points more than their NBMEs and i personally know someone who got a 251 on NBME 13 and 264 on the real deal. It's all about the exam day performance now!

Take a break after every block, go out in the sun if you feel too down. Dont think too much over the mistakes you made/might have made in the last block during your break. Have a good night's sleep! Sleep is very important, i used zolpidem to help me even though i didnt need it. I guess i wasnt taking any chances :P
Approach each MCQ with the 3 step approach i mentioned
If you are completely clueless about a MCQ and have never seen/heard about that topic before you wont be able to answer it. Dont waste your time on it, just pick a random guess move on! THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!! Only mark the ones where you are at a 50-50 between 2 options. If you start marking all the WTF questions you'll probably end up with 15 marked questions at the end of the block. Once you have done a block go over the marked questions and once you have gone over them i'd suggest to add the remaining 1-2 minutes to your break. That is what i did, this way i increased my break by 10 minutes.
Once you have selected an option and are sure about it, do not doubt yourself. If you pick an answer then go over all the other options again, you will probably invent something change your answer and get it wrong. Trust in your knowledge and NBMEs, you are going to do fine.

I've seen people drop in the 220s and the 230s just because they panicked on the exam day. So the key is to remain calm and maintain a moderate level of anxiety!

I would suggest you do more questions, revise the forgettables and go over your weak areas one last time.

High Yield Bio stats has some good questions go over those for biostats if you have time. Make sure you know your Endo well for the exam, it is heavily tested. All those stupid gut hormones and the Receptor pathways are going to be on the exam!

All the best! 260+ is in the bag for you
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Paradoxicaly seen but, my cumulative on Usmle World was 59% but on nbme form 7get only 173 on three digit score??? what score do you had on nbme7 form? just for me to compare and understand what is a problem with my test, thanks...

U world scores mean nothing on the real exam stop comparing and contrasting with other people! That is the wrong thing to do. Just have faith in yourself, judge yourself by the NBME. The NBME has bars for each subject you'll know where you went wrong/need improvement. Your Uworld could be a 51% or a 71% it doesnt matter! If you are scoring well in the NBMEs, that's all the confidence you need. Uworld is a learning tool so use it as one!

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Hey Doc. Subby i took nbme 16 and 13 online . I got 251 in both of them. My aim is 260+ but i cant score 260+ although i tried my best. What is your advice? I have 2 weeks to go.

Second question is my uworld cumulative is 61% . İs it enough to get 260+?
I found uworld extremely hard.

Screw the Uworld score! Uworld IS EXTREMELY Hard! As long as you got all the knowledge from it, that's all that matters. Uworld scores count for **** on the real exam! I have seen people with higher Uworld scores than me scoring much lower on the real exam. Uworld is a learning tool and use it as such!

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Thank you so much for such a nice, comprehensive and well planned approach for preparation of step 1. It would definately help and guide alot of people in getting through this exam with out standing results.
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first of all congrates for your great score! I am planning to sit for step 1 in Oct'2014.After finishing Uworld (80%) and FA..i went through Uwsa (242) and Nbme 11(226).
I am aiming for 250+. But as you can see my scores are not that great! though 2 months are still left. Can you plz advice me how can I improve this..
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Congrats! A 250+ means you are all set, it's all a game of nerves now. I'm sure you have studied really hard for the exam and another 2 weeks is not going to make too much of a difference on you exam score.
A 251 on both 13 and 16 does not mean that this will be the score on your actual exam. I have seen people get 10 points more than their NBMEs and i personally know someone who got a 251 on NBME 13 and 264 on the real deal. It's all about the exam day performance now!

Take a break after every block, go out in the sun if you feel too down. Dont think too much over the mistakes you made/might have made in the last block during your break. Have a good night's sleep! Sleep is very important, i used zolpidem to help me even though i didnt need it. I guess i wasnt taking any chances :P
Approach each MCQ with the 3 step approach i mentioned
If you are completely clueless about a MCQ and have never seen/heard about that topic before you wont be able to answer it. Dont waste your time on it, just pick a random guess move on! THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!! Only mark the ones where you are at a 50-50 between 2 options. If you start marking all the WTF questions you'll probably end up with 15 marked questions at the end of the block. Once you have done a block go over the marked questions and once you have gone over them i'd suggest to add the remaining 1-2 minutes to your break. That is what i did, this way i increased my break by 10 minutes.
Once you have selected an option and are sure about it, do not doubt yourself. If you pick an answer then go over all the other options again, you will probably invent something change your answer and get it wrong. Trust in your knowledge and NBMEs, you are going to do fine.

I've seen people drop in the 220s and the 230s just because they panicked on the exam day. So the key is to remain calm and maintain a moderate level of anxiety!

I would suggest you do more questions, revise the forgettables and go over your weak areas one last time.

High Yield Bio stats has some good questions go over those for biostats if you have time. Make sure you know your Endo well for the exam, it is heavily tested. All those stupid gut hormones and the Receptor pathways are going to be on the exam!

All the best! 260+ is in the bag for you
You are awesome!!! Thank you very much for your suggestion!!!

By the way recently people told me that anatomy questions are heavily tested they are all WTF questions. İs it right? How should i study anatomy?

Thx for your hreat help
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You are awesome!!! Thank you very much for your suggestion!!!

By the way recently people told me that anatomy questions are heavily tested they are all WTF questions. İs it right? How should i study anatomy?

Thx for your hreat help

Yes anatomy does have a lot of WTF but you can narrow it down to 2 options is you think a little. I was really worried about my anatomy performance as most of the questions were so weird that i had no clue My score report shows that i have a high performance on the anatomy part so that means my educated guesses worked You have worked hard for this, trust your brain on the exam it wont fail you. Make sure you know the Kaplan Gross anatomy portion well that's all i did other than Uworld. I dont think it would be a good use of your time to spend the next 2 weeks looking up a fat anatomy book because all those WTF questions need is you to start thinking in the right direction to get the answer.
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first of all congrates for your great score! I am planning to sit for step 1 in Oct'2014.After finishing Uworld (80%) and FA..i went through Uwsa (242) and Nbme 11(226).
I am aiming for 250+. But as you can see my scores are not that great! though 2 months are still left. Can you plz advice me how can I improve this..
Best of luck for step 2..
You have enough time! Focus on your weak areas right now. Go over FA once more and you will definitely improve your score. Go through your marked uworld questions. Take another NBME in 2 weeks and see if it improves. You need to know where you went wrong on nbme 11? Was it a particular subject or system? Improve on that by re0doing it!
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Second my NBME form n16 get 185(300), of course seemed a weak areas and understand where must study more, but please tell me how to improve this result on national board, what is the key? my first nbme 7 was 173(240) and now increase to 185 please give me some porpose how to improve in continue my results,, direct weak areas to reread of first aid or do more tests on UWqbank???
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Thank you so much for such a nice, comprehensive and well planned approach for preparation of step 1. It would definately help and guide alot of people in getting through this exam with out standing results.
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Second my NBME form n16 get 185(300), of course seemed a weak areas and understand where must study more, but please tell me how to improve this result on national board, what is the key? my first nbme 7 was 173(240) and now increase to 185 please give me some porpose how to improve in continue my results,, direct weak areas to reread of first aid or do more tests on UWqbank???
You need to focus on learning the concepts. A score of <200 means that you are definitely not ready for the exam yet. Go through Uworld and go through the text of your weaker subjects again. Make sure you know all the concepts. There are no shortcuts to getting your score to 240+. The formula is a simple one, learn the syllabus and then apply it to the questions on the exam.
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wow this is amazing to hear an img did so well. im also an img and i was in the same boat as u (barely getting by with C's) i just starting prepping for my step 1 and im trying to score around a 250 as well. i started doing kaplan vids and i am following along in both the kaplan book and in FA for each corresponding section to familiarize my self w FA. i want to start doing questions but i feel like i dont know enough information to answer any questions. im still working on anatomy, so i dont know if i should wait till i finish each subject to do the questions for that subject or should i do them as i go and use them as a learning resource rather than to test my knowledge? im not sure what to do in regards to questions bc i really want to do at least 6000 questions before my step. if u have any advice for me plz let me know.
oh yea in regards to the NBMEs when should i take them? how far away from my step 1?
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wow this is amazing to hear an img did so well. im also an img and i was in the same boat as u (barely getting by with C's) i just starting prepping for my step 1 and im trying to score around a 250 as well. i started doing kaplan vids and i am following along in both the kaplan book and in FA for each corresponding section to familiarize my self w FA. i want to start doing questions but i feel like i dont know enough information to answer any questions. im still working on anatomy, so i dont know if i should wait till i finish each subject to do the questions for that subject or should i do them as i go and use them as a learning resource rather than to test my knowledge? im not sure what to do in regards to questions bc i really want to do at least 6000 questions before my step. if u have any advice for me plz let me know.
oh yea in regards to the NBMEs when should i take them? how far away from my step 1?
Thank you for your kind words!

I think it is best to finish each subject then go for the questions so that when a question touches multiple chapters of the same subject you have gone through all those chapters. Go through Uworld and Perhaps use NBME 1-12 as a question bank and leave 13,15,16 for the final three before your exam ? That makes 4600 questions in total other than that you can add 400 from UWSA 1 and 2 and Kaplan has 2200 so that makes it a total of 7000+ if you want to do a lot of questions.

Start taking your NBMEs atleast after you have done 1 read of your textbooks and FA if you feel ready by then otherwise it's best to take them when you feel confident and ready.
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I forgot to mention this earlier now i cant seem to edit the post :/

One last thing, what is the proper way to do uworld?
My technique, i used to do a block a day and then i used to open my FA and annotate it. Not just annotate it, learn the content and the topics tested on the block. Say my first question on the block was Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy, i would open that topic in FA go over the Uworld explanation and then the FA topic add all the extra stuff in FA and then make sure i knew everything about HCM. Let's say the next question was friedrich's ataxtia, i'd open that topic in FA and repeat the procedure. Making sure i do my FA atleast twice during my uworld subscription and atleast once after i did all the 48 blocks before going in for the exam.

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Hello, I'm doing UW in that way, but it takes a least for me a lot of time because I also check in the FA and Goljan the topics covered in all answers. Do you think this is counterproductive?.

Would be wise to spend those extra 2 hours revising only weak subjects?
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Hello, I'm doing UW in that way, but it takes a least for me a lot of time because I also check in the FA and Goljan the topics covered in all answers. Do you think this is counterproductive?.

Would be wise to spend those extra 2 hours revising only weak subjects?
it worked very well for me because going through a topic twice made memorization easier and cleared my concepts if you feel it is counterproductive you can always do it the way that suits you best.
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it worked very well for me because going through a topic twice made memorization easier and cleared my concepts if you feel it is counterproductive you can always do it the way that suits you best.
But did you check everything?

This is what I'm doing: Lets imagine the question talks about an alternative to aspirin, and the correct answer is clopidogrel. Later I review in FA clopidogrel and aspirin mechanism, and maybe the arachidonic pathway or coagulation cascade if I don't remember it well. The others answers are warfarin (related to topics that I've already revised) and a non at all related Disopyramide. The UW clarify me why it is not the answer but also if I don't recall well the Antiarrhythmics, I review that topic again.

That takes me a lot of time, because in some questions can appear up to 4 answers with topics not related to the main question topic. . Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think in the 2200+ questions there have to be at least one question related to a topic that we need to know for the exam (cranial nerves, citokines, etc.).

Is that the way to go or is better to revise in FA only the educational objective or main topic in the question?.

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But did you check everything?

This is what I'm doing: Lets imagine the question talks about an alternative to aspirin, and the correct answer is clopidogrel. Later I review in FA clopidogrel and aspirin mechanism, and maybe the arachidonic pathway or coagulation cascade if I don't remember it well. The others answers are warfarin (related to topics that I've already revised) and a non at all related Disopyramide. The UW clarify me why it is not the answer but also if I don't recall well the Antiarrhythmics, I review that topic again.

That takes me a lot of time, because in some questions can appear up to 4 answers with topics not related to the main question topic. . Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think in the 2200+ questions there have to be at least one question related to a topic that we need to know for the exam (cranial nerves, citokines, etc.).

Is that the way to go or is better to revise in FA only the educational objective or main topic in the question?.

Thanks in advance
Definitely not the way i went about it! I would just look up the topic covered in the educational objective and open the same topic in FA. The only exception would be if i found something that i thought was very important in the topics covered by explanations to incorrect options. I guess that by just revising the main question you can still cover most of the FA with your uworld.. That's the way i went about it anyway
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That was an amazing experience ! Thank you and Congratulations on your score!
I'm done with uworld once and am reviewing it again. I haven't given any nbme yet and I plan to give my exam By the end of November. Any suggestions on how I go about from here?

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I have two questions:
1- what do you mean by kaplan radiology
2-regarding gyna ques everyone is talking about did u
Get any other than incontinence ones.
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thank u for your advice.. i have 3 more months and i am almost done with second read and 70%uworld, what should i pay attention at now? please please reply
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I have two questions:
1- what do you mean by kaplan radiology
2-regarding gyna ques everyone is talking about did u
Get any other than incontinence ones.
By Kaplan radiology i mean the radiology lectures that are in the anatomy portion, at the end of every chapter there are 1 or 2 lectures if i remember correctly.

I did get quite a few but i wouldn't recommend reading any gynecology book for that because you can do them if you think properly.

Sorry about the late reply!
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thank u for your advice.. i have 3 more months and i am almost done with second read and 70%uworld, what should i pay attention at now? please please reply
Complete your uworld and second read and focus on your NBME exams!

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