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Hi guys ) Recently got my step 1 score, and though I am not completely satisfied by it ( got around 260 in my self assessments), want to share my experience. During my prep I mostly relied on FA (3 times, knew it by heart), Kaplan (twice, wished have done it better) and a little bit of Goljan. The only Qbank used was Uworld. I was a topper in my medschool, my prep was full-time, 8 hours a day. Final score: 250.
I know all exams are different, but this points are high-yield for all the people getting similar questions as I did.
1.Do Kaplan really thouroughly. I got a lot of stuff from pharmacology and microbiology books.Physiology was worthless, FA completely enough. Bioethics was not usefull at all, didn't get anything on all those "lifestyle" pages from Kaplan.
2.Don't concentrate on painful details from UWorld. I was literally cramming it, taking notes and trying to memorize the small details. Small details from Uworld are not tested, all the small details were from Kaplan and Goljan.
3.Uworld+First Aid were very helpful to get a good baseline, like 230. Not more. Yeah, I am completely sure the UWorld+First Aid plan doesn't work for 250+, cause small details are asked.
4.Anatomy.I HAD 5-7 QUESTIONS PER BLOCK! 2-3 of them where nerve/FA/kaplan questions and the rest was clinically relevant anatomy stuff from elsewhere.I have no idea how I possibly could prepare for them.
5.The "killer-block" rumors were true The third block was the killer one. It was superheavy on weird anatomy and biochemistry questions. It scared me a little, cause I thought maybe my brain died as early as in the 3rd block, but nope, i think it was experemental or something..
6.UWSA overpredicts. Though I got a couple of very similar questions from UWSA1.
7.Good sleep+eating habits before exam day are really helpful. I had a plenty of energy after my exam and didn't feel tired thanks to good night sleep, early morning protein meal and break cereal bars.

The bottom line: Anatomy is high-yield. For extra points, do Kaplan, Goljan or you need to have experience/knowledge from medschool. Do not overanalize Uworld question. Their details are not meant to be crammed.
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hey 250 is amazing score really. congratulations
i could really use your advice.
i have done multiple reads from FA and doing uworld second time. my exam is in the end of next month. my last nbme was 11 and scored 254.
i am planning to finish uworld and revise fa one more time and then take nbme13 or 16 . i am confused abt these things:
1. pathology : mainly i have used FA +DIT +UW+ pathoma videos only
i gave a quick read to goljan 3rd edition about 6 months back and all that info is vanished i think bcoz its a huge book and hard to retain do u think i should go back and revise it? i feel pretty comfortable here when doing qbank.
2. i am scared of anatomy this never really got into my brain in medical school either and i barely passed. i have read kaplan 2 times and FA multiple times and still feel weak in this subject . should i keep revising kaplan?
3.pharmacology and microbiology i just did from FA and the basic stuff like pharmacodynamics/kinetics and microbiology genetics from kaplan. i think i do pretty good when i am doing questions. but since you said you got a lot of stuff on this do u mean FA is not enough on these?
4. alternative to reading these huge books at this time i am thinking of doing kaplan qbank. what do u think would that be a good idea?
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first of all congrats on this score
I need you to give examples of what minor stuff they asked about ,i did kaplan three times but you scared me with this post.
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Slacker.mle, FA+UW was enough for path, plus minor details from Goljan. Don't read the whole Goljan, if you have time read only high-yield stuff from margins. Again, it's optional, cause for path, questions were mostly doable and UW-oriented, but I am quite sure I had like 5-6 questions from the margins I've read a month before my test. Those details weren't covered by UW.
About anatomy stuff, I had a lot of muscle questions, like someone had a blow on his shoulder and then tell me plz where is the spot where that muscle attaches to the bone. Also some of those questions were really similar to UW ones. Do those CTs from Kaplan book, those are really high-yield. Everything else from Kaplan book was not kind of useful for my exam (Nerve stuff is covered by FA). Also those 150 pages of histology were just waste of my time.
Pharmacology/microbiology had small details like tables in the beginning (p450) enzyme, and again, I don't remember all the stuff quite well cause a month of trying not to analize my questions and finding mistakes deleted most of it, but I am sure doing those 2 books is high-yield for small details. Margins of Kaplan are always high-yield!
I can't comment on Kaplan Qbank, cause I didn't do it.

So my advice to you, dear Slacker.mle, will be stick to FA repetition, that will give you at least 230+,make sure you know anatomy from FA and those CT/x-rays, do Goljan margins really well, do your NMBE-s, keeping in mind that some may overpredict. If you are not satisfied with the score, then you may think about Kaplan.
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thanks u , that helps a lot. one more thing. u mentioned the attachment of muscle was asked? thats not in fa or kaplan either. were there too many questions on these?
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250 is a great score! So congrats!

Regarding books, I am using High-Yield for Gross Anatomy and Neuroanatomy. In retrospect, would you have used these books for anatomy? What book do you suggest I use for biostats? Also how was biochem, and what book did you use?

Too much questions I know! Sorry for that
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thanks u , that helps a lot. one more thing. u mentioned the attachment of muscle was asked? thats not in fa or kaplan either. were there too many questions on these?
I think 4 or 5. But I am inclined to think that no one actually knew those, cause I definitely didn't but my anatomy score report was above average ( still lower than everything else)
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250 is a great score! So congrats!

Regarding books, I am using High-Yield for Gross Anatomy and Neuroanatomy. In retrospect, would you have used these books for anatomy? What book do you suggest I use for biostats? Also how was biochem, and what book did you use?

Too much questions I know! Sorry for that
Hi. My exam wasn't heavy on neuro, so FA was completely enough in my case ( didn't do kaplan neuroanatomy). Didn't have books you mentioned so can't answer that question.
Kaplan biochemistry rulez! I had a tone of questions in genetics, in which you need to understand stuff, FA doesn't help in understanding biochem / genetics. Kaplan biochem+UW is enough ( didn't get all those weird metabolism questions from UW though) And the last topic is behavioral/ biostat. Behavioral was okay, very similar to UW. but biostats sucked!!!!!! There was around 4 questions about bias and nothing similar to Uworld self assessment. No complicated numbers. I would say Do Kaplan Lectures/ videos for Biostat! I will definitely do for step2 ck. My weakest point was biostat, though I never experienced any difficulties in it before( in score it was the lowest and marked with an asterix!))))))
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Hi guys ) Recently got my step 1 score, and though I am not completely satisfied by it ( got around 260 in my self assessments), want to share my experience. During my prep I mostly relied on FA (3 times, knew it by heart), Kaplan (twice, wished have done it better) and a little bit of Goljan. The only Qbank used was Uworld. I was a topper in my medschool, my prep was full-time, 8 hours a day. Final score: 250.
I know all exams are different, but this points are high-yield for all the people getting similar questions as I did.
1.Do Kaplan really thouroughly. I got a lot of stuff from pharmacology and microbiology books.Physiology was worthless, FA completely enough. Bioethics was not usefull at all, didn't get anything on all those "lifestyle" pages from Kaplan.
2.Don't concentrate on painful details from UWorld. I was literally cramming it, taking notes and trying to memorize the small details. Small details from Uworld are not tested, all the small details were from Kaplan and Goljan.
3.Uworld+First Aid were very helpful to get a good baseline, like 230. Not more. Yeah, I am completely sure the UWorld+First Aid plan doesn't work for 250+, cause small details are asked.
4.Anatomy.I HAD 5-7 QUESTIONS PER BLOCK! 2-3 of them where nerve/FA/kaplan questions and the rest was clinically relevant anatomy stuff from elsewhere.I have no idea how I possibly could prepare for them.
5.The "killer-block" rumors were true The third block was the killer one. It was superheavy on weird anatomy and biochemistry questions. It scared me a little, cause I thought maybe my brain died as early as in the 3rd block, but nope, i think it was experemental or something..
6.UWSA overpredicts. Though I got a couple of very similar questions from UWSA1.
7.Good sleep+eating habits before exam day are really helpful. I had a plenty of energy after my exam and didn't feel tired thanks to good night sleep, early morning protein meal and break cereal bars.

The bottom line: Anatomy is high-yield. For extra points, do Kaplan, Goljan or you need to have experience/knowledge from medschool. Do not overanalize Uworld question. Their details are not meant to be crammed.
Man! everyone's exam is different, so you can't say don't do this don't do that..it's universal fact that Pathology and Physiology are highly tested in most of the exams, and Anatomy is never tested that hard. may be ur case is different but that doesn't apply on coming exams.
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What do you mean by "Physiology was worthless"
Did you make notes in while reading Goljan and Kaplan.
How many NBME's did you use for assessment? Were they online?

By the way at this moment if I would get 250 i would really be happy!
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Man! everyone's exam is different, so you can't say don't do this don't do that..it's universal fact that Pathology and Physiology are highly tested in most of the exams, and Anatomy is never tested that hard. may be ur case is different but that doesn't apply on coming exams.
Totally agree with this. My exam was about 9 months ago and perhaps things have changed but I doubt to the extent that anatomy has become high yield. I barely had two questions per block and there were super easy and straightforward. Stuff like midshaft humeral fracture damages what nerve or what type of dislocation is commonest at the shoulder. I suppose if you get more anatomy questions the curve becomes less harsh and you can score more. My exam was easy and I felt good coming out but I only got 245 which was disappointing. I guess if you have time go to town on anatomy and hope for an exam that tests it, otherwise path and pharm are far better bets.
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Man! everyone's exam is different, so you can't say don't do this don't do that..it's universal fact that Pathology and Physiology are highly tested in most of the exams, and Anatomy is never tested that hard. may be ur case is different but that doesn't apply on coming exams.
I mentioned "I know all exams are different but if someone gets a test like mine". Path and physio in my case where form FA+UW, and I had a lot of questions on them.
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Guys! I didnt want to discourage you by any mean! The thing is I didn't know all that anatomy stuff and I still got my 250. I just wanted nobody to be as shocked as I was, cause you know I thought I will have one-two questions per block and I become freaking out when I got many, many more.
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hmmmm i dont understand why some people are so cranky and rude and ungrateful and etc etc etc

@YSMU_grad_2013 thank you for sharing your experience and opinion . appreciate it a lot and congrats once again. party haaaaaaaaardddddd
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