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hello everyone,
I am an international medical student, and i am in a little different situation than most of IMG's regarding pathology subject.
Since i study medicine in a french speaking country, the study system is quite different from the anglo-saxon one. we have never studied pathology as you guys do. but instead we studied histopathology which lacks all explanations and concepts of pathophysiology,as a result i am totally clueless about it
i don't want just to pass the step 1 even if with a good score. but to build strong concepts and have better understanding of medicine for life. but on the other hand I don't know if i have much time coz i want to pass step1 while i am a student in order to do electives.
so guys do you recommend me robbins ?
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No I wouldn't.
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No point doing Robbins,straight away go to Goljan(one of the best books I have come across since medical school)
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but goljan is a review book, and we cannot review what we don't know already, + unlike robbins in goljan there isn't enough explanations and illustrated diagrams that will help you understand concepts.
do you think goljan is capable of doing the same job as robbins for someone who has ZERO background in this subject ?
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Yes it does definitely! In fact, even Pathoma does a great job of it. I haven't used Goljan but I have used Pathoma and I recommend it to every single medical student out there.
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Every single teacher and 'good' student i know says that Robbins Basis should be your main book for pathology (and by extension, even medicine!).

Goljan is a review book, you'll be completely lost if you don't have a base in Patho.

So yes, if you have zero background in pathophysio, Robbins (Basis, not Basic, which is a shorter review version) is the best place to start. It covers nearly everything and is by far the most 'complete' patho book out there, although you don't need to remember everything in it.
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Every single teacher and 'good' student i know says that Robbins Basis should be your main book for pathology (and by extension, even medicine!).

Goljan is a review book, you'll be completely lost if you don't have a base in Patho.

So yes, if you have zero background in pathophysio, Robbins (Basis, not Basic, which is a shorter review version) is the best place to start. It covers nearly everything and is by far the most 'complete' patho book out there, although you don't need to remember everything in it.
How exactly do you study from that book? That book is HUGE! the review one is just Questions and answers right?
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How exactly do you study from that book? That book is HUGE! the review one is just Questions and answers right?
That's the good thing about it, you don't have to memorize everything in it (like you'd have to with a review book), you just have to extract the important info. And it's thoroughly explained, so it's a great starting point for concept building and you won't have to blindly memorize everything when it comes to exams.

Once again, I'm assuming OP wants to understand pathology from scratch and is not just looking for a good book for exam prep. For exam prep (USMLE), Basis is probably too time consuming and ineffective.

I'm not sure if there's a Q&A-only review book for Robbins, but the one I'm talking about (Basic, not BASIS, one letter makes a difference ) is basically a more picture-friendly, readable version of the big two-volume book, and it's half the length. If you're short on time and want to get a head start on patho before exam prep, Basic would be just fine. In fact, I did half of systemic patho from Basic and the content there is pretty good, but in hindsight I now wish I'd done it from Basis from the get-go.
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That's the good thing about it, you don't have to memorize everything in it (like you'd have to with a review book), you just have to extract the important info. And it's thoroughly explained, so it's a great starting point for concept building and you won't have to blindly memorize everything when it comes to exams.

Once again, I'm assuming OP wants to understand pathology from scratch and is not just looking for a good book for exam prep. For exam prep (USMLE), Basis is probably too time consuming and ineffective.

I'm not sure if there's a Q&A-only review book for Robbins, but the one I'm talking about (Basic, not BASIS, one letter makes a difference ) is basically a more picture-friendly, readable version of the big two-volume book, and it's half the length. If you're short on time and want to get a head start on patho before exam prep, Basic would be just fine. In fact, I did half of systemic patho from Basic and the content there is pretty good, but in hindsight I now wish I'd done it from Basis from the get-go.
Robbins BASIC Pathology is the short one, Robbins Pathologic BASIS of Disease is the big one. Well if you have time use it! It certainly must be helpful. Wish you the best Take a look at this thread.Is it a waste of time to read Basic Robbins for Pathology? You're the one who decides at the end.

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thank you all for your replies.
I had never planned to study the big robbins coz it is too big.what i planned to do is to read a chapter from basic then go to goljan and try to memorise what's in the corresponding chapter so this way I can hit two birds with one stone. what do you think retroguy about this plan? ans please you who studied from both, what will I be missing if i just stick to medium and didn't look at the big one, specially in pathophysio concepts (I don't care much about histopatho).what those teachers and students are saying about the medium? is it as good as the big one?.coz yes you said it I really want to have a better understanding of this subject(and medicine) and not to be just an exam-taker but I am afraid i won't have much time to go through the big robbins

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