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Hello guys, I needed to know how important is it to have a good foundation before starting the preparation for the exam
I mean is it enough to just master the right review books and other videos (Kaplan, Pathoma or/and Najeeb) without prior exposure to heavy text books (Gyuton physiology for example)?
Plus, what would you prefer to run with both review books & 1st Aid at the same time then doing 1st Aid or simply finish the books then go to 1st Aid?

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Yeah correct review books and videos will be enough, I my self haven't started FA as of yet but what 99% of the people do is to mark FA with the important notes from UW and not congest it with all info from everywhere which will be tough to memorize.

If you can you can make notes of the videos for yourself but that takes much time and effort and one last advice is do PATHOMA if not GOLJAN it is great...

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Don't do any of the big textbooks (waste of time). You can always go back to your textbooks on very tiny particular things that you're keen on knowing for your own knowledge (but for USMLE the small books and qbanks will do the job).

And the biggest mistake ppl do is read the books without associating FA to it. I'm not saying write down stuff from the other sources to your FA (you can if you want, but keep the annotating only to pathology and Qbanks).

What happens is that you read each subject and then you finish all and then start to read FA. That's when you notice BOOOOM, you forgot all you read before and FA doesn't make sense! So, you're doing your physiology from BRS let's say, then you also do physiology from FA too. You're doing anatomy from kaplan, you read it along with FA also (and annotate whatever makes you understand the points in FA when you'll have to read it again later).

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Don't do any of the big textbooks (waste of time). You can always go back to your textbooks on very tiny particular things that you're keen on knowing for your own knowledge (but for USMLE the small books and qbanks will do the job).

And the biggest mistake ppl do is read the books without associating FA to it. I'm not saying write down stuff from the other sources to your FA (you can if you want, but keep the annotating only to pathology and Qbanks).

What happens is that you read each subject and then you finish all and then start to read FA. That's when you notice BOOOOM, you forgot all you read before and FA doesn't make sense! So, you're doing your physiology from BRS let's say, then you also do physiology from FA too. You're doing anatomy from kaplan, you read it along with FA also (and annotate whatever makes you understand the points in FA when you'll have to read it again later).

enjoy.
How about making the FA my major resource? like not doing from BRS then associating FA, no I go for FA and study the subjucts as they are ordered in FA.
For example I go for patho in FA and find the inflammation 1st, I go for pathoma & study inflammation with the videos then associate FA .. Is this method practical? I mean is it FA the reference I run with and associate other books, or is it the "other books" that I study and associate FA?
I'm talking about a first mastering read of course
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How about making the FA my major resource? like not doing from BRS then associating FA, no I go for FA and study the subjucts as they are ordered in FA.
For example I go for patho in FA and find the inflammation 1st, I go for pathoma & study inflammation with the videos then associate FA .. Is this method practical? I mean is it FA the reference I run with and associate other books, or is it the "other books" that I study and associate FA?
I'm talking about a first mastering read of course
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Although you quoted spasemaster I am poking my nose anyhow

You study KAPLAN Books along with videos first, when you finish a section, find it in FA and mark out all the missing points then revise FA and do a qbank(after say you finish anatomy,biochem and physio)

and like you asked,
so you do inflammation from PATHOMA first, ie watch the videos and read the book and then open FA and mark the missing points

I think you should seriously read ZUMZUM's method because it helps to make a schedule of your own and like spasemaster previously pointed out the importance of memorizing the facts which are in FA and which you add is a real crucial advice.

So no you read other books and incorporate stuffs into FA from them, and quoting ZUMZUM here:

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it's the FA page that should be imprinted in your visual memory before the exam. So take care of your FA book and write your notes neatly.
Go read ZumZum's Thread by clicking here

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Although you quoted spasemaster I am poking my nose anyhow

You study KAPLAN Books along with videos first, when you finish a section, find it in FA and mark out all the missing points then revise FA and do a qbank(after say you finish anatomy,biochem and physio)

and like you asked,
so you do inflammation from PATHOMA first, ie watch the videos and read the book and then open FA and mark the missing points

I think you should seriously read ZUMZUM's method because it helps to make a schedule of your own and like spasemaster previously pointed out the importance of memorizing the facts which are in FA and which you add is a real crucial advice.

So no you read other books and incorporate stuffs into FA from them, and quoting ZUMZUM here:



Go read ZumZum's Thread by clicking here

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Thank you for the reply,
I'm reading the ZumZum method right now, wouldn't it be time consuming to keep looking in FA for the anatomy section of each system?
I mean the FA is system-based, unlike the review books
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Than you cleverfox.
I think Dr.AlJbour is talking about doing FA as if it's the INDEX. It's an interesting way of doing things. I know some people who did kaplan videos according to the topics in FA. I think it's hard, here's why.

For example, kaplan biochem talks about all. FA biochem doesn't talk about bilirubin or heme in biochem. It talks about them in different chapters.

I personally think that you have to do the big books (kaplan, pathoma and BRS) along with FA, to get a general view about the subject so that when you're handling FA you can make the connection between the different chapters and subjects.

USMLE is famous for integration of physiology with pathology with biochem with pharmacology with microbiology. That's why Goljan audio is fabulous I guess.

In the end I might not like that method, but it might work for you. But it's going to be really difficult to find the topics on FA and read them in kaplan (or whatever source), it's easier to do kaplan (with the extras) and skip on the stuff that are NOT in FA.
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I didn't make up my mind yet, especially that I'm a med student with limited available time so I'll need to just put the method that suits my situation the best in order to do the exam 13 months from now.
the ZumZum method says that there's an index in FA telling you where all the anatomy is in the book, I could't find it can you help?
& My FA is 2014, do I have to get 2015?
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I didn't make up my mind yet, especially that I'm a med student with limited available time so I'll need to just put the method that suits my situation the best in order to do the exam 13 months from now.
the ZumZum method says that there's an index in FA telling you where all the anatomy is in the book, I could't find it can you help?
& My FA is 2014, do I have to get 2015?
I am a medical student as well so yes we will have to make modifications to the schedule but the ultimate procedure is same for all

Book + video --> FA --> Questions end of chapter / offline Qbank --> Incorporate those into FA --> Read FA --> Online Qbank

I am a second year medical student and I haven't yet completed all my disciplines required for STEP1 as of yet but I follow the procedure I mentioned above because following ZUMZUM's method is impossible for me as of right now but when I will get free time in the following year I will do his method rigorously.

And as of the index it is usually after the first few pages of the book, in 2013 edition it is on page number XXIII just before Section-1 "Guide to efficient exam preparation".By the way the index is known as "Basic Science Discipline Cross Reference Table for High Yield Facts".Its there in every FA i guess so no need to get 2015 edition.
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Hey guys. I have the 2015 version of FA and there is no such index telling you where you can find each subject (e.g. Anatomy) throughout the book.
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Hey guys. I have the 2015 version of FA and there is no such index telling you where you can find each subject (e.g. Anatomy) throughout the book.
Thats true 2014 and even 2015 editions doesn't have that index, I own a 2013 but I download 2014,15 just to check and I found that they are missing it...

Anyways what that index was is as follows,

The subjects are listed in a column and the organ systems are listed in rows and the page numbers to those organ systems are provided in the other columns

///////////////Cardiovascular////Endocrinology////Etc
Physiology//////265-272////////////456-476///////123
Pathology///////334-378////////////442-455///////123

*Etc being the other organ systems

Its not that important but one must understand that the book is based on organ systems and anatomy,embryology,pathology,pharma etc etc of that organ system is provided under that organ system while only the general principles are given subject wise.

This used to be the case till 2013 from the PDFs I saw 2014/15 doesn't have this but if you basically know where to find what you are looking for ie the basic structure of first aid I guess you wont need this!
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Thats true 2014 and even 2015 editions doesn't have that index, I own a 2013 but I download 2014,15 just to check and I found that they are missing it...

Anyways what that index was is as follows,

The subjects are listed in a column and the organ systems are listed in rows and the page numbers to those organ systems are provided in the other columns

///////////////Cardiovascular////Endocrinology////Etc
Physiology//////265-272////////////456-476///////123
Pathology///////334-378////////////442-455///////123

*Etc being the other organ systems

Its not that important but one must understand that the book is based on organ systems and anatomy,embryology,pathology,pharma etc etc of that organ system is provided under that organ system while only the general principles are given subject wise.

This used to be the case till 2013 from the PDFs I saw 2014/15 doesn't have this but if you basically know where to find what you are looking for ie the basic structure of first aid I guess you wont need this!

wow actually that's really awesome!! Bcz I create my own index for each subject as i come to revise it from FA. I didnt know it was all ready in previous versions
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I am a medical student as well so yes we will have to make modifications to the schedule but the ultimate procedure is same for all

Book + video --> FA --> Questions end of chapter / offline Qbank --> Incorporate those into FA --> Read FA --> Online Qbank

I am a second year medical student and I haven't yet completed all my disciplines required for STEP1 as of yet but I follow the procedure I mentioned above because following ZUMZUM's method is impossible for me as of right now but when I will get free time in the following year I will do his method rigorously.

And as of the index it is usually after the first few pages of the book, in 2013 edition it is on page number XXIII just before Section-1 "Guide to efficient exam preparation".By the way the index is known as "Basic Science Discipline Cross Reference Table for High Yield Facts".Its there in every FA i guess so no need to get 2015 edition.
So I watch the video of the subject incorporating it with the book, do the chapter from the book well then I do the same subject/chapter from FA right?
& Do I have to start with anatomy leaving physio/patho closer to the exam?One thing I didn't understand is how to incorporate the offline/online qs with all this thing.. I mean how are the qs arranged? subject-based or comprehensive or what? I know nth about the Qbank, so please tell me the main things I need to know
Sorry for the delay in the response btw, THANK YOU very much
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wow actually that's really awesome!! Bcz I create my own index for each subject as i come to revise it from FA. I didnt know it was all ready in previous versions
Would you mind uploading your own index for each subject here plz?
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I am a medical student as well so yes we will have to make modifications to the schedule but the ultimate procedure is same for all

Book + video --> FA --> Questions end of chapter / offline Qbank --> Incorporate those into FA --> Read FA --> Online Qbank

I am a second year medical student and I haven't yet completed all my disciplines required for STEP1 as of yet but I follow the procedure I mentioned above because following ZUMZUM's method is impossible for me as of right now but when I will get free time in the following year I will do his method rigorously.

And as of the index it is usually after the first few pages of the book, in 2013 edition it is on page number XXIII just before Section-1 "Guide to efficient exam preparation".By the way the index is known as "Basic Science Discipline Cross Reference Table for High Yield Facts".Its there in every FA i guess so no need to get 2015 edition.
So I watch the video of the subject incorporating it with the book, do the chapter from the book well then I do the same subject/chapter from FA right?
& Do I have to start with anatomy leaving physio/patho closer to the exam?One thing I didn't understand is how to incorporate the offline/online qs with all this thing.. I mean how are the qs arranged? subject-based or comprehensive or what? I know nth about the Qbank, so please tell me the main things I need to know
Sorry for the delay in the response btw, THANK YOU very much
QBanks are organ-system based be it offline or online...

Do the questions...if you find anything important,add it to your fa
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Would you mind uploading your own index for each subject here plz?
The indices I created so far are for histology and gross anatomy. They arent really a big deal (they are just quick, handwritten drafts), but I dont mind sharing them anyway. How do you want me to send them to you? (suggestions: whataspp? email?)
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I have 2014 Edition PASS videos complete set and Lecture Notes. I purchased them and used them for my preparation for Step1. They can also be used for Step 2 preparation. They were very useful to me and can be very useful to you as well. I can honestly say I got a high score because of these videos. His teaching is unique and you will love it. I don't need them anymore so I am selling them. I paid a lot for them few months ago and I could use some money now for my expenses. You can have it for a fraction of what I paid for them. You can have it for $80 payable by paypal. You will be able to download it with in minutes after payment. Let me know if you are interested. Thank you.
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The indices I created so far are for histology and gross anatomy. They arent really a big deal (they are just quick, handwritten drafts), but I dont mind sharing them anyway. How do you want me to send them to you? (suggestions: whataspp? email?)
e-mail me at aljbour_k@hotmail.com
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