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Help Just wrote NBME Form 3... now what?

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I finished school in may, did kaplan 14 week in chicago until september, read through Kaplan books and did a few questions (kaplan qbank) until december, Dec.8 i wrote an NBME exam in NY (my med school requires us to pass a written NBME before we can take the Step 1) and scored 59 (pass is 68), the next two weeks i skimmed over kaplan and did alot of qbank questions, and today i took the NBME Form 3 exam online... i got a 290 (equivalent to 172 on usmle, about a 60 according to the way the written NBMEs are scored). I did, however, find this NBME to be a little more difficult than the written one I took.

What should my next step be?

I'm thinking I should go through First Aid (still haven't opened that book yet) and buy UWorld.

What do you guys think?

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NBME 3 is actually one of the more difficult NBME's.

You should definitely open up FA and go over it thoroughly.

UW is a must for the exam so make sure you do those questions in random timed mode.

And when do you plan on writing the exam ?
Do you plan on taking any other NBME's?

I have never really heard of a school offering an NBME since these are "National Board" of Medical Examiners, but anyway, does your school require you to pass that NBME?
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do uworld with FA after finishing take an nbme if u reached your goal revise FA do marked uworld n give exam .

if u did not get good nbme score do DIT (but keep doing UW lil bit) then give another nbme if u get a good score revise FA n give the exam .

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hey,

yea my school just implemented the written nbme 2 years ago (to keep the usmle scores from its graduates high). I have to pass this written nbme before I can write the step 1, i've used one of my 3 chances, my next chance (the one im hoping to pass on) is in February. If I pass that, then I would probably take the step in April.

I'm still confused on the NBME form set-up, from what I've read, the higher the number of the form, the more difficult. So I figured form 3 would be the easiest of the NBMEs since it is the lowest number available (if i'm not mistaken, it goes forms 3, 5, 6, 7, 11, 12. I'm not sure which form is most consistent difficulty-wise with the written NBME my school requires.

Anywho, it seems FA and UWorld are the way to go now. Maybe for 2 weeks, and then write another NBME? Which Form should I do next? 3 again? or move up to 5?

Thank a bunch for your help guys.
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if you have taken a 14 week kaplan course (i took mine in NY) you are entitled to speak to a medical advisor....

go talk to them or email them at the center....

they really really help. i was facing a similar problem of low nbme scores.... so they actually made out a 15 days hour by hour schedule for me about how to study...


also you can download and watch the DIT video/notes.
they are 15 days long but only about 3 hours video in a day so u can do two days together in one day and finish it in 7 days... it is strictly FA....

but there is no use doing FA if your concepts from kaplan are not clear!!
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if you have taken a 14 week kaplan course (i took mine in NY) you are entitled to speak to a medical advisor....

go talk to them or email them at the center....

they really really help. i was facing a similar problem of low nbme scores.... so they actually made out a 15 days hour by hour schedule for me about how to study...


also you can download and watch the DIT video/notes.
they are 15 days long but only about 3 hours video in a day so u can do two days together in one day and finish it in 7 days... it is strictly FA....

but there is no use doing FA if your concepts from kaplan are not clear!!
DIT takes quizzes for which u have to pause and complete quiz in the handbook.also Dr jenkins speak really fast so u have to pause sometime to read from first aid.So it take more time than most people think.

everyday 5 hour lectures which take most of the day.
so i think DIT cannot be finished in less than 16 days .at the end of which i bet anybody would be overloaded and burnout. ITS INTENSE !
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DIT takes quizzes for which u have to pause and complete quiz in the handbook.also Dr jenkins speak really fast so u have to pause sometime to read from first aid.So it take more time than most people think.

everyday 5 hour lectures which take most of the day.
so i think DIT cannot be finished in less than 16 days .at the end of which i bet anybody would be overloaded and burnout. ITS INTENSE !
i agree.. but after taking the step 1 fourteen week kaplan course.. you have to attend their small group discussions there are intense discussions on almost every concept you need to know... the only problem is doing it everday over a 14 week period is exhaustive
and re-reading thru the notes post classes.... relatively .. most of the things he says in the DIT videos are a repeat.
atleast that was the way it was for me... i was able to do it in 9 days. (watch videos and do worksheets)...

was just saying 7-9 days cos the topic maker said he/she had done the 14 week course too but i agree its different for everyone

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Hey guys, thanks a bunch for all your input

Ive heard mixed things about DIT, but you guys really think its worth it eh?

I started FA today and its pretty nice. Also bought uworld this morning and hope to do some questions tonight.

I think im going to go through first aids organ system review, an organ system a day so ill be done in 10 days, then write another nbme (hopefully i see some improvement). After that i dont know what to do, maybe DIT?

I feel like ive got alot of the concepts done from kaplan, just that im not too good at making connections and what not when it comes to questions. I suppose the only way to fix that is to do uworld a lot eh?

Can anybody recommend which nbme form i should do next? Like i said before i thought form 3 would be the easiest of them but im hearing otherwise now.

Thanks in advance.
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NBME 3 is actually one of the more difficult NBME's.
Which are the easy NBMEs?
3 is the lowest form available so I figured it would be the least difficult, if not then which are? 5 or 6 is most consistent with the step 1 right? What are 11 and 12 all about?

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Which are the easy NBMEs?
3 is the lowest form available so I figured it would be the least difficult, if not then which are? 5 or 6 is most consistent with the step 1 right? What are 11 and 12 all about?

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Hey,

Well, NBME 3 is actually one of the more difficult ones. The newest ones are 11 and 12. The most predictive one is 7 but now 11 and 12 are kinda up there as well. NBME 5 is should be good to do next and save NBME 7 for the last (may be a week or two before your real exam). Also, make sure you do NBME 11 and 12 coz there are a lot of questions or similar concept/format questions that come from those NBME's since they are the latest ones.

Also, DIT is GREAT! ... BUT it takes time. Its almost 5 hours of video lectures per day + daily quizzes, and stuff in the work book. But I think you should go over UW and FA and see how your next NBME goes.

How long did you get UW for? Do random, timed questions and review all the right AND wrong questions. If you are good with the concepts may be u dont need to make notes - that will save time.

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Ok so I'll do FA and UW for the next 10 days and then take NBME form 5.

I got UW for 6 months so I should be covered

After NBME form 5 i'll decide what my approach is for my next block of studying, considering DIT because I don't what else is left at this point lol
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Hey guys, i know Forms 7, 11, 12 are the most accurate, i want to take only

Form 7, and either 11 or 12
plus an easy NBME first

Which is the easiest NBME ??
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Hey guys, i know Forms 7, 11, 12 are the most accurate, i want to take only

Form 7, and either 11 or 12
plus an easy NBME first

Which is the easiest NBME ??
they say 7 is the hardest than 11 and than 12
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well def 7 is the last one before the exam. And 11 or 12 the one before 7

but i want to start with the easiest NBME form, do you know which one is it? read most of the threads, but nothing there.
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well def 7 is the last one before the exam. And 11 or 12 the one before 7

but i want to start with the easiest NBME form, do you know which one is it? read most of the threads, but nothing there.
Hi, LatinGeorge!

I haven't taken the nbmes yet but Dr.Nick mentioned the different nbme difficulties in this thread last week: Need NBME Information. You'll find there that he posted as follows: "difficulty level is generally accepted as (highest to lowest): 7, 11, 12, 6, 3, 5".

I guess then that the easiest form is nbme 5.

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well def 7 is the last one before the exam. And 11 or 12 the one before 7

but i want to start with the easiest NBME form, do you know which one is it? read most of the threads, but nothing there.
Id say 2nd is the easiest. (but you never know if the offline answers are truely correct..)
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Id say 2nd is the easiest. (but you never know if the offline answers are truely correct..)
That list only includes online nbmes
The old forms 1 and 2 which are offline nbmes are surely easier than 5, much easier.
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so which is easier then 5 or 6 ?
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That list only includes online nbmes
The old forms 1 and 2 which are offline nbmes are surely easier than 5, much easier.
yeah form 2 is easy no doubt but the problem is that offline it has got loads of mistake i think in answers section..i mean some answers are wrong given in offline version..dont know..so thats why from now will only do offline nbmes for practice and do only form 7 and 12 online..regarding form 11(well i did two blocks last night)..it was difficult to say the least..but to some extent one can narrow it down to 2 options and take a wild guess..i hope NBME 7 and 12 is also like that..
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yeah form 2 is easy no doubt but the problem is that offline it has got loads of mistake i think in answers section..i mean some answers are wrong given in offline version..dont know..so thats why from now will only do offline nbmes for practice and do only form 7 and 12 online..regarding form 11(well i did two blocks last night)..it was difficult to say the least..but to some extent one can narrow it down to 2 options and take a wild guess..i hope NBME 7 and 12 is also like that..
and thus proves the benefit of forums such as this one. you can discuss any questions you disagree with on your answer key.

but yes, the only forms i am doing offline are 1 and 2.
all other forms i'm doing online.
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so which is easier then 5 or 6 ?
i've done 5, a little easier than 3 imo
i haven't done 6 yet, will do it at the end of this month.
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