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Hi guys,

I'm new to this forum and have been looking at it for past few weeks. Unfortunately, when I was preparing for these exams, I was not aware of this forum. First of all I would like to say thank you to the staff (Sabio, Steptaker and all) and the members for making this site what it is today!

I truly believe that one should never copy the study pattern of another, but should develop his/her own pattern that suits the most to their needs. I will mention the study material I used while preparing for these two exams and if someone finds it useful, it'll be my pleasure!

For step 1, I used KLN, Goljan RR Pathology, FA (as a reinforcer), Lippincott biochemistry for genetics, BRS behavior science and most importantly, UW QBank. Towards the end, I did NBME 7 and UWSA 1 and 2.

For step 2CK, I used KLN for CK, MTB for step 2CK and some topics from CMDT 2011. Again most importantly UW QBank and in the end NBME 7 and UWSA.

But the real thing I wanted to tell everyone is don't over burden yourselves with these exams. Honestly I'm an average student, graduated from an average medical college of India. I'm serious when I say that if I can do this, you can do it better! There is no secret to these exams, we all know which books to read, which QBanks to solve. It's only about hard work and dedication. Everyone of knows most of thing that will come in the exam, we all have graduated from a medical college after all, one of the toughest courses there could be! And those who write the review books like Kaplans FAs, they are truly masters of this field and they write everything for us that is needed for the exams. The key does not lie in WHAT we read, but HOW we go about it. Being faithful towards prep and ourselves is the "secret ingredient" (for all the Kung fu Panda fans!). I would never give an advice of what you should read and from where you should read, my only advice is be dedicated and enjoy your studies and life at the same time! This is just a "step" and our ultimate destination. I recommend everyone to read what Dr. Conrad Fischer has written in the initial few pages of his book MTB.

Feel free to ask me anything you want to, I would be glad to help anyone in what little way I can.

Thank you again for creating this wonderful platform! And God bless you all!

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Congrats on superb scores!

Thank you for your words of encouragement!

I'm the optimistic type but I really doubt that I can do better than 264.
I'll be extremely happy with a 255...
I guess that makes me an under-achiever. LOL!

Thank you for being so kind as to extend a helping hand to us who haven't still taken the exam.
I assure you, you will be flooded with questions and private messages!

I certainly agree with everything that you said, but my favorite part is where you advice us to enjoy studies and life at the same time.

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Can u tell how many months did u study for step 1?

how many reads of FA and kaplan did u do?

and how were ur basis when u began?
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Can u tell how many months did u study for step 1?

how many reads of FA and kaplan did u do?

and how were ur basis when u began?

My study time for step 1 was 7 8 months with irregular study scheduling,

I did KLN 2 times properly and one more time only selected topics. FA I just flipped through with KLN. But you can use either as a primary source!

My basics were I guess average! I mean I knew what most knows but I am no genius!

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Congrats for ur great score..i am from india too(an average medical college and an average student too).have my step 1 on 2nd april..can u please tell me whether its natural to score badly(i mean those 55-60%) in uworld??i mean how much didi u score..having real problem in getting gud scores in the first 10 blocks of uworld..though i feel i am learning a lot and jotting down all facts on fa but still something that still stings me...
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I meant NBME 4 for 2 CK and "this is just a "step" and NOT our ultimate destination"!

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Congrats for ur great score..i am from india too(an average medical college and an average student too).have my step 1 on 2nd april..can u please tell me whether its natural to score badly(i mean those 55-60%) in uworld??i mean how much didi u score..having real problem in getting gud scores in the first 10 blocks of uworld..though i feel i am learning a lot and jotting down all facts on fa but still something that still stings me...

Hi,
You know you said the main thing in the end of your post! "you are learning a lot"!!
I truly believed it does not matter how much you are scoring in QBanks, it's not a reflection for how we will do in the real exam. It is meant for us to use it as a learning tool and we should use it that way only. I know its easier said than done, but try not to look at the percentage score, but focus everything on figuring out where you went wrong and correcting those mistakes. I used UW to iron out my flaws and you are just in the starting phase of it. I guess it's better to do 15 wrong questions and learn from them instead of just doing 3 wrong and not learning from them.

And April is a while from now and keep focussing on the mistakes and analyze your performance graph after you have done 30 35 % of QBank

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Hi,
that was an awesome score on both the steps.congratulations!! i have exam in 15 days and i am looking at kaplan important concepts and using FA on the side along with UW Q bank learning my mistakes....what concepts in Kpln anatomy are heavily tested as its taking very long time to go through that book.and what did u do for the last 15 days?
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Hi,
You know you said the main thing in the end of your post! "you are learning a lot"!!
I truly believed it does not matter how much you are scoring in QBanks, it's not a reflection for how we will do in the real exam. It is meant for us to use it as a learning tool and we should use it that way only. I know its easier said than done, but try not to look at the percentage score, but focus everything on figuring out where you went wrong and correcting those mistakes. I used UW to iron out my flaws and you are just in the starting phase of it. I guess it's better to do 15 wrong questions and learn from them instead of just doing 3 wrong and not learning from them.

And April is a while from now and keep focussing on the mistakes and analyze your performance graph after you have done 30 35 % of QBank

Good Luck!
Thanks a lot.thanks a tongud luck for step 2 CS.ur step 1 and step 2 ck scores are awesome
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Hi,
that was an awesome score on both the steps.congratulations!! i have exam in 15 days and i am looking at kaplan important concepts and using FA on the side along with UW Q bank learning my mistakes....what concepts in Kpln anatomy are heavily tested as its taking very long time to go through that book.and what did u do for the last 15 days?
Hi,
Well, I took*step 1 before step 2CK, so I cant recall exactly which topics in anatomy were heavily tested, but I do remember that in a nutshell, UW's anatomy is very good and covers the topics of the real exam. One thing to keep in mind for anatomy is that it will be relevant clinical anatomy that is asked. So even if reading kaplan, we don't have to cram and memorize everything. While reading, ask yourself whether this part can be incorporated in a clinical scenario and this helped me.
About what I did during my last 15 days, I did the UWSAs and NBME 7 with 2 3 days interval and focussed on my weak ares, which were mostly behavior science!
Sorry for not being able to answe the anatomy part clearly, but I hope it helps you!
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wow, just wow
what amazing scores

i think you're using the term "average student" quite loosely lol
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congrats for those amazing scores , but what about your scores in uwsa 1,2 nbme7???
and when did u take them
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Congratz!!!
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Hi, thanks a lot!
I took nbme and both the uwsa tests 10 days before my actual test...and my scores were 265 in both uwsa and 260 in nbme 7.
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thnks for the advice on anatomy,i started reading it like that since.and i want to know how is skin pathology tested on step1 do u think FA is enuff for it? thnks in advance
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Hi, thanks a lot!
I took nbme and both the uwsa tests 10 days before my actual test...and my scores were 265 in both uwsa and 260 in nbme 7.
All the best!

thanks alot , that was for step 1 right???
how u improved yourself in behavioural ???
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thanks alot , that was for step 1 right???
how u improved yourself in behavioural ???
thanks in advance for the help
Hi, ya they were for step 1
Regarding behavioral science, there were a few things. Initially I was messing up with the concepts of durations like in schizophrenia and PTSD. But the main thing which I thought I need to improve upon was the ethics kind of questions and one which were like "what should be the best response in such a situation"...that in the end I realized were tougher in UW and in the real test there were not that many and that tough! I don't know why but I always used to think weirdly whenever such questions came up on UW. And stats were easy in the real exam so dont worry abt them either! Bottom line, I didn't do much to improve in Behavior Science, I just got lucky in the real exam!
Side note, I found BRS useful when it came to understanding the concepts! But it's just my experience.
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thnks for the advice on anatomy,i started reading it like that since.and i want to know how is skin pathology tested on step1 do u think FA is enuff for it? thnks in advance
Hi,
I remember that skin pathology in Goljan was a bit too much! What i did was, I noted down the topics given in skin pathology of KLN(obviously they were high yield ones) and read those and their associated pathologies from goljan. Didn't really use FA as a primary source for path or any other subject though. I used to quickly glance through FA and if I found any new info in it, I used to make a note of it in Goljan...
I can safely assume that FA must be enough for skin path but since I used goljan as the main path book, I really can't be 100% sure!
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Which NBME form did u do last?
I am debating about which one I should do to test myself now and which one to keep to test myself few days/week to test my score...
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I am debating about which one I should do to test myself now and which one to keep to test myself few days/week to test my score...
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When I was preparing for step 1( an year back), NBME 11 and 12 were not there. I did NBME 7.
I decided to pay for one NBME only and for both step 1 and 2ck, I followed 2 rules,
1. Do the latest/newest NBME
2. Do the expanded version

Especially the expanded one is a much better because atleast we get to know which we did wrong!

But again, its just my opinion and all of them must be more or less pretty accurate of our current standing!

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When I was preparing for step 1( an year back), NBME 11 and 12 were not there. I did NBME 7.
I decided to pay for one NBME only and for both step 1 and 2ck, I followed 2 rules,
1. Do the latest/newest NBME
2. Do the expanded version

Especially the expanded one is a much better because atleast we get to know which we did wrong!

But again, its just my opinion and all of them must be more or less pretty accurate of our current standing!

Good LUck!
Thank you!
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Hi,
Sorry for replying late but was a bit busy!
I didnt watch any dvd. It was just I didnt had the patience to watch them! I am not saying they are not good, many here have said they are great and they are very helpful...but it just didnt click for me! I tried some micro videos in the beginning.*
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some topics from CMDT 2011.
Hello... congratulations for the great score!!!

I have a question regarding CMDT... what topics did you read from it??

How do you recommend me to use it???

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Hello... congratulations for the great score!!!

I have a question regarding CMDT... what topics did you read from it??

How do you recommend me to use it???

Thank you

Hi
Well, I used CMDT for topics which I have already read and understood well from that book during my final year exams in IM. I wont say it's really a good idea to use CMDT as a study material if you have not read it before.
But just to answer your question, I read some of CVS and a lot of Neuro from CMDT. Some endocrine topics also. But again, I think it's too extensive for 2CK.

Hope this helps!!
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Well, I used CMDT for topics which I have already read and understood well from that book during my final year exams in IM. I wont say it's really a good idea to use CMDT as a study material if you have not read it before.
But just to answer your question, I read some of CVS and a lot of Neuro from CMDT. Some endocrine topics also. But again, I think it's too extensive for 2CK.

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Thank you man... I have the book (2011), and back in the time... I read 2008 edition. I was just thinking that if it would be OK to give it a quick review for some "special" topics during my preparation.

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hello & thnx for posting these helpful tips.
& congrats on your amazing work .
Can u give an advice to me , am a 3-rd year student preparing & planning to sit for the exam in 7-8 months , u can imagine the lack of time with the med school & everything else.
Just some tips for me for my anxiety & my studying.
I am truly enjoying studying as you said
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hello & thnx for posting these helpful tips.
& congrats on your amazing work .
Can u give an advice to me , am a 3-rd year student preparing & planning to sit for the exam in 7-8 months , u can imagine the lack of time with the med school & everything else.
Just some tips for me for my anxiety & my studying.
I am truly enjoying studying as you said
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Hi, thanks for your kind words.

I feel you have enough time with 7-8 months. I don't know what tip I can give you for your studies as you are the best person who knows about your study patterns and habits. What I can say is that whatever you do with dedication! I'm sure you will do great!!

And regarding anxiety, do what relaxes you!! For me, it was food!!

I don't know how useful my reply was, but I do wish you good luck!!
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do you think studying microbiology and immunology from first aid and usmle world would be enough?
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coongratulations on ur fantastic scores. i am preparing for step 1 . i took too long just to prepare and till now i cant begin the real study. i get confused frustrated . i want to do alot of stuff at the same time. i want to work part time and study for the test and take it for less than 6 months. do u think that is possible , or i need to focus on the exam only? thank you in advance
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do you think studying microbiology and immunology from first aid and usmle world would be enough?

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I think it all depends on your definition of "enough". From what I experienced, yes FA and UW are good sources for them, but I aslo did Kaplan notes.
I really wish I knew what was enough or not, but I can say that the facts of these subjects will remain the facts whether we read it from source A or source B. So understand and read carefully from which ever source you read, this would be my best suggestion.

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coongratulations on ur fantastic scores. i am preparing for step 1 . i took too long just to prepare and till now i cant begin the real study. i get confused frustrated . i want to do alot of stuff at the same time. i want to work part time and study for the test and take it for less than 6 months. do u think that is possible , or i need to focus on the exam only? thank you in advance

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Try and relax first! You can do wonders in 6 months even if you are starting fresh today! But you need to control your mind and not get frustrated easily. Remember, we all have gone through the stress and anxiety of these exams. Try and be a little methodical and realistic in your planning, noone can do a lot of stuff at the same time! There can be a lot of distractions/duties in our life besides these exams and the best thing about these steps is that we can take it when we are ready!
You have to decide yourself about the time management regarding part time job and studies because everyone of us has a different pattern. But in both the cases, I'm sure you can ace it!!

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im a 5th year medical student from russia who is having summer end semester exam.
i try hard to squeeze my time for preparation for USMLE.
but it's really depressing since i have to archieve a balance between my sch academic performance and the progression towards USMLE.
everyday i try my best to study part of USMLE and prepare for my clinical year disciplines.but often i dont hv adequate time for reading up USMLE at the end of the day..
there's another 8 mths to go..while i just finished kaplan anatomy and biochem,immunology.
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im a 5th year medical student from russia who is having summer end semester exam.
i try hard to squeeze my time for preparation for USMLE.
but it's really depressing since i have to archieve a balance between my sch academic performance and the progression towards USMLE.
everyday i try my best to study part of USMLE and prepare for my clinical year disciplines.but often i dont hv adequate time for reading up USMLE at the end of the day..
there's another 8 mths to go..while i just finished kaplan anatomy and biochem,immunology.
any idea or advises about how to make a efficient schedule?

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I think giving usmle when ready is the best idea. Saying that you have plenty of time still left. Don't be depressed! Work out a realistic plan that meets your desired result and the time you have in hand. My first advise, stop being depressed and cheer up! It's just an exam and if you really want to do both of them together, go ahead and do it. I believe only way to be efficient in studying is having a clear mind. Don't over-think about all this. Read carefully, sincerely and well. No matter what we want, we still have only 24 hours in a day and we still need to sleep and eat right. Keep your academics up and keep going for USMLE untill you are certain that it's either possible to give both of them or it is turning out to be too risky. Once you are certain, go ahead with your instincts.

I really don't know how much I can advise you regarding how exactly you can make it efficient as you know the best which topics are tough and which are easy for you.

Cheer up and study happily!!

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i find goljan too vast and so much to remember,how to deal with patho? even after number of reads its hard for me to revise before the test....any advice please
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tgdel87, Congratulations Firstly and thank you for sharing all the positive thoughts and experiences. I am just starting to prepare for my STEP 1 and you have helped me deal with the anxiety and frustration that comes early on.
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hey congrats on an awesome score!! i need some advise. im a final year medical student frm pakistan. want to do step 1 in june. im doing uworld these days..and doing well on it. as in my av is 79% and its the first time im doing it. in uwsa 1 a scored 254..still have to take uwsa 2..im not banking on these scores as i know its the real score what matters! dont wanna be overconfident. now problem is i havent done any nbme's..and right now i feel im at my optimum performance level..so shud i delay the exam by a week and do recent nbme;s or just go for the exam. i havent picked a date yet. but wanna go for early june. done kaplan thrice. done fa thrice.
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im a 5th year medical student from russia who is having summer end semester exam.
i try hard to squeeze my time for preparation for USMLE.
but it's really depressing since i have to archieve a balance between my sch academic performance and the progression towards USMLE.
everyday i try my best to study part of USMLE and prepare for my clinical year disciplines.but often i dont hv adequate time for reading up USMLE at the end of the day..
there's another 8 mths to go..while i just finished kaplan anatomy and biochem,immunology.
any idea or advises about how to make a efficient schedule?

thanks in advance..
Why don't you give CK before Step 1. That way you won't have a discord between what you are studying and what you are doing.
Give the step 1 once you are free of clinical rotations and can focus on all the theory.
I think lif would be much simpler for you that way! Good luck!
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i find goljan too vast and so much to remember,how to deal with patho? even after number of reads its hard for me to revise before the test....any advice please
I don't think its necessary to remember whole RR Goljan Pathology, or for that matter any of the prep books. What I felt about Goljan was that he really tries to clarify the concept which is the best thing. The way to build up on the concept is not to read it again and again but to practice it with applying it in questions, where UW comes in! Of course, there will always be lists and other things which are not meant for understanding but rather just to know. Noone can remember every thing from these lists. So don't bother about too much about how many times you are reading goljan and revising goljan before test. Keep concentrating on the topic and application in a question rather than the fact itself. This is just my way BTW. Hope it helps, good luck!
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hey congrats on an awesome score!! i need some advise. im a final year medical student frm pakistan. want to do step 1 in june. im doing uworld these days..and doing well on it. as in my av is 79% and its the first time im doing it. in uwsa 1 a scored 254..still have to take uwsa 2..im not banking on these scores as i know its the real score what matters! dont wanna be overconfident. now problem is i havent done any nbme's..and right now i feel im at my optimum performance level..so shud i delay the exam by a week and do recent nbme;s or just go for the exam. i havent picked a date yet. but wanna go for early june. done kaplan thrice. done fa thrice.
I think NBMEs are predicts where we are at that moment. I don't think one needs to postpone the exam just to take an NBME before. You sound ready and you yourseelf feel you're ready, so why delay it just for a four hour practice test? You still have about 2 weeks left for June to start and I think you can do UWSA2 and ,if you want, 1 or 2 NBMEs too easily.
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I think NBMEs are predicts where we are at that moment. I don't think one needs to postpone the exam just to take an NBME before. You sound ready and you yourseelf feel you're ready, so why delay it just for a four hour practice test? You still have about 2 weeks left for June to start and I think you can do UWSA2 and ,if you want, 1 or 2 NBMEs too easily.
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thanks!! really appreciate ur quick reply!

my schedule is jam packed till june..with fa and uworld basically! also..ive heard that the nbme questions r weird..and they make u feel like u dont know anything..really kill ur confidence. but still an accurate score predictor. i want to know..r the questions on the exam like uworld? im really hoping the answer is yes! also ive heard tht some nbme questions get repeated..is that true? and if yes, how many?

im not looking for a score prediction. im worried abt nbme because i need to know if i shud practice those kind questions..and if i;ll see them in the real exam
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thanks!! really appreciate ur quick reply!

my schedule is jam packed till june..with fa and uworld basically! also..ive heard that the nbme questions r weird..and they make u feel like u dont know anything..really kill ur confidence. but still an accurate score predictor. i want to know..r the questions on the exam like uworld? im really hoping the answer is yes! also ive heard tht some nbme questions get repeated..is that true? and if yes, how many?

im not looking for a score prediction. im worried abt nbme because i need to know if i shud practice those kind questions..and if i;ll see them in the real exam
Ok, lets take it point by point...
- Some questions of NBME are ofcourse super tough and we don't have clue about them, but so does UW and the real exam! I feel we can't hang on to a few tough questions. Once the question has passed, move over. NBMEs are not that bad as you are thinking! They are not meant to break our onfidence and all! My point being we will get super tough questions occasionally and just say to yourself "Whatever!!" and move on to the next one. The genereal perception is that NBMEs are tougher than real exam but as I said, NBME are meant to predict our scores and not meant as a learning tool.
- The real exam, as I felt was in mid-way between UW and NBME, maybe slightly skewed more towards UW. But honestly, 8 - 9 hours in there...over 300 questions...you can only guess the closeness of the real one to UW and NBME. As with every experience that I have read, I also felt crappy after my exams! So be prepared for that!
- I did get 2 questions similar in step 1 and 1 in CK from the NBME ( I gave only 1 NBME for both steps so number of similar questions may be higher for people who gave multiple NBMEs) But, the question stem was same and a different thing was asked in 2 of them and one was the same one. I read somewhere (can't recall where) that it might be that the questions that are repeated might not be carrying any marks/experimental questions/pure luck blah blah blah. You can do the offline NBMEs but I didn't do it so can't really say how good or a bad idea it is just for the purpose you are mentioning about. It would never hurt, but you have to decide upon how much time you got!

Having said these things...I would advise you not to worry about NBMEs being like a cheat-code! The fact remains simple, practice practice practice!! Whether NBMEs or UW or Kaplan! (depending upon the time ofcourse!)

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Ok, lets take it point by point...
- Some questions of NBME are ofcourse super tough and we don't have clue about them, but so does UW and the real exam! I feel we can't hang on to a few tough questions. Once the question has passed, move over. NBMEs are not that bad as you are thinking! They are not meant to break our onfidence and all! My point being we will get super tough questions occasionally and just say to yourself "Whatever!!" and move on to the next one. The genereal perception is that NBMEs are tougher than real exam but as I said, NBME are meant to predict our scores and not meant as a learning tool.
- The real exam, as I felt was in mid-way between UW and NBME, maybe slightly skewed more towards UW. But honestly, 8 - 9 hours in there...over 300 questions...you can only guess the closeness of the real one to UW and NBME. As with every experience that I have read, I also felt crappy after my exams! So be prepared for that!
- I did get 2 questions similar in step 1 and 1 in CK from the NBME ( I gave only 1 NBME for both steps so number of similar questions may be higher for people who gave multiple NBMEs) But, the question stem was same and a different thing was asked in 2 of them and one was the same one. I read somewhere (can't recall where) that it might be that the questions that are repeated might not be carrying any marks/experimental questions/pure luck blah blah blah. You can do the offline NBMEs but I didn't do it so can't really say how good or a bad idea it is just for the purpose you are mentioning about. It would never hurt, but you have to decide upon how much time you got!

Having said these things...I would advise you not to worry about NBMEs being like a cheat-code! The fact remains simple, practice practice practice!! Whether NBMEs or UW or Kaplan! (depending upon the time ofcourse!)

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Also i had a quick question.... were biostats and epidemiology high yield on your step 1 exam??? should i just go over those once? and not break my head over it???

did you use any other source for behavioral science besides kaplan notes???
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Also i had a quick question.... were biostats and epidemiology high yield on your step 1 exam??? should i just go over those once? and not break my head over it???

did you use any other source for behavioral science besides kaplan notes???

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I don't remember how many biostats questions I got exactly, but I do remember that they were pretty easy and you don't have to "break you head" over it! If you have time you can go over them quickly as it wont take much time. For biostats and epidemiology I didn't use any other book except KLN. For the psych related part of Behavior Science I did read some BRS but only because it was so nicely explained and I was weak coming into the prep for step1 in this topic. I don't think it's absolutely necessary to read BRS as KLN os good enough for exam point of view, but if something draws your interest and there is time, reading it for your own personal fun wont hurt!
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Thank you for the help

appreciate it...

also i was wondering? did you ever do the usmle rx question bank? would it help after doing uworld 2x??

I wanted to get it when my uworld expires on july 06... an then do it for 3 months..n back to uworld the month of my exam..?

is that a good idea??
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appreciate it...

also i was wondering? did you ever do the usmle rx question bank? would it help after doing uworld 2x??

I wanted to get it when my uworld expires on july 06... an then do it for 3 months..n back to uworld the month of my exam..?

is that a good idea??
I really don't know how good usmle rx is. I only did UW and can say for sure that UW is the most important thing in prep. However, you say that you have lots of time after UW expires and want to use another Qbank too, I would suggest playing a safer game with Kaplan Qbanks. From what I have read, Kaplan is second in race to be the best Qbank after UW. I didn't do the whole UW again after first round but I did only the wrong ones and ones which I marked( I can safely assume in total they were about 40 - 45% of total Qbank) I think keep doing new questions will help us so if you have so many months between the time UW expires and your test, I think it's a good idea to go for a new Qbank rather than keep repeating UW again and again.
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yeah thanks for your advice...

actually i had kaplan qbank before...a long back.. but i couldn't finish it... i only did like 20 tests in it... then it expired.. as i had it with kaplan center prep course...

then i got the qbook..which i'm currently doing...

soo thts y i thought of trying usmle rx...

should i still get kaplan qbank even if i have the kaplan qbook?
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yeah thanks for your advice...

actually i had kaplan qbank before...a long back.. but i couldn't finish it... i only did like 20 tests in it... then it expired.. as i had it with kaplan center prep course...

then i got the qbook..which i'm currently doing...

soo thts y i thought of trying usmle rx...

should i still get kaplan qbank even if i have the kaplan qbook?
As far as I know, Qbook and Qbank of Kaplan are different. But don't take my word for it and double check with someone who has taken Qbank and compared with Qbook.

I think you must have seen this link, but just in case you haven't it might be helpful to you...
What is the best USMLE Step 1 Question Bank?

Clearly the top 2 are UW and Kaplan. A person who has actually done usmle rx, would be the best one to tell you about how it is in comparison to other two. There were some comments on usmle rx towards the end of the thread about best Qbank for step 1.

I really can't tell you much more as I haven't personally seen neither Kaplan nor usmle rx Qbanks!
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Congratulations for the great achievement. Just a question. I am preparing for step 1 first read but it seems my pace is slow. I have been annotating the notes with videos and I study approx 10 hrs a day with few breaks. It has been about 4 months and I am still on it. What do you think would be a good time period to finish the first read of step 1 Kaplan. I feel that the longer I take to finish first read the more I tend to forget what I read months ago. How long did you take to finish your first read of step 1?
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Congratulations for the great achievement. Just a question. I am preparing for step 1 first read but it seems my pace is slow. I have been annotating the notes with videos and I study approx 10 hrs a day with few breaks. It has been about 4 months and I am still on it. What do you think would be a good time period to finish the first read of step 1 Kaplan. I feel that the longer I take to finish first read the more I tend to forget what I read months ago. How long did you take to finish your first read of step 1?
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It took me also about 4-5 months to go through the first read. I think a good time period for finishing first read depends on person to person. Obviously you are putting in the hours everyday and you are doing great! I'm also a slow reader and I took that into account while planning out a timeline for everything. I believe slow but steady reading in whihc you understand and get the point is better than quickly skimming through pages! But that's just my thinking and people do really well with both ways. The counter-argument to what you say about taking longer to read and forgetting could be if you just focus on speed you are not going to remember most things next week! So my suggestion, find a balance between your speed and the thoroughness with which you read. If you have a time constraint that's another thing and in that case you are bound by time to finish what you read.

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congrats.... its a great score. how did you prepare for step2. how many months and what was your routine?? and have you tried mtb???? how good is it.

and i have another question. is it possible to have nbme score of 230 ( form 13 two weeks before the exam ) and actual usmle score of 268????
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congrats.... its a great score. how did you prepare for step2. how many months and what was your routine?? and have you tried mtb???? how good is it.

and i have another question. is it possible to have nbme score of 230 ( form 13 two weeks before the exam ) and actual usmle score of 268????
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For step 2 CK..the books I used I mentioned them in the main post. I did read MTB for 2 CK, it was ok to good types, not super good. KLN are still the main resources to go for according to me. MTB can be a good add-on to KLN if you can get it easily, but I don't think it's good as the main resource. I read for 6-7 months on-off and my routine wasn't something fixed and it varied from 2-3 hrs/day to 8-10 hrs/day.
About the scorings, ofcourse nothing is impossible! I guess one could achieve it if she/he could work super duper uber hard in those 2 weeks! I don't know!!
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thanks for your help. i also wanted to ask that when did you take nbme for step 2? after how many readings??? did you do it after uworld??? when is the best time to take nbme????
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thanks for your help. i also wanted to ask that when did you take nbme for step 2? after how many readings??? did you do it after uworld??? when is the best time to take nbme????
What I did was this...I gave only one NBME(4) for CK, took it 3-4 days before my exam. By that time I had done KLN twice and UW completely.
Now many people like to do it in the beginning to judge where they are and then start of with serious prep, many people like to keep taking NBMEs after every few weeks to know their progress, some don't do online NBME at all. Is there a best way? I don't think so, all of them are good. The difference is how much you can spend on NBMEs. If you can do many NBMEs, it's good for you as it will give you a feel of the exam and tell you where you are. If you can do only one, I would use it to judge where I am towards the end of my prep to know am I reaching my goals or not.

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Thanks for sharing your experience, it is always encouraging to read others experiences. Right know I'm preparing for ck2, it is being a long journey (probably as others like my due to work) but I'm trying my best. Recently I had to extend my period of availability bc I did not have a good score on NBME SA and I would like to ask you since It was extended till October if is best to reschedule to the latest date available or just re-study another 2 months?
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Thanks for sharing your experience, it is always encouraging to read others experiences. Right know I'm preparing for ck2, it is being a long journey (probably as others like my due to work) but I'm trying my best. Recently I had to extend my period of availability bc I did not have a good score on NBME SA and I would like to ask you since It was extended till October if is best to reschedule to the latest date available or just re-study another 2 months?
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I'm sorry but I didn't understand your question properly. From what I got you have extended your eligibility period and now it's till October and you are asking about when and what date you should schedule your exam. Please correct me if I'm wrong. But for that, I would suggest weigh in your weak areas from NBMEs and UW and make a practical estimate about hte time it can take for you to build up on them and improve your score to your desired level. I don't remember the exact details, but if you reshcedule your exam date before some weeks of your original date there is no extra fees right? Whatever that time period be you can then assess if you need to post pone it again or not.
I'm sorry if you were asking about somethings else though! Please correct me in that case!
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Tgdel87, congratulations on those awesome scores! Can you please lend your suggestion for my special situation?
I'm finishing my final year in a month and planning to give a step in house surgeoncy. I'm thinking of giving step2ck first as I read mtb books in final year and did uworld(except for surgery and psychiatry) as a learning tool.(my percentage was 70%). So Wat wud u suggest? Improve upon my step2ck prep or give step 1 first? I really want to score high scores....even as much as u! Is it possible if I do ck before step1?
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Hi, thank you for all the info and congrats!! I wanted to know how many probability genetic calcuation questions did you get on the real exam? Is it high yield?
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I'm new to this forum and have been looking at it for past few weeks. Unfortunately, when I was preparing for these exams, I was not aware of this forum. First of all I would like to say thank you to the staff (Sabio, Steptaker and all) and the members for making this site what it is today!

I truly believe that one should never copy the study pattern of another, but should develop his/her own pattern that suits the most to their needs. I will mention the study material I used while preparing for these two exams and if someone finds it useful, it'll be my pleasure!

For step 1, I used KLN, Goljan RR Pathology, FA (as a reinforcer), Lippincott biochemistry for genetics, BRS behavior science and most importantly, UW QBank. Towards the end, I did NBME 7 and UWSA 1 and 2.

For step 2CK, I used KLN for CK, MTB for step 2CK and some topics from CMDT 2011. Again most importantly UW QBank and in the end NBME 7 and UWSA.

But the real thing I wanted to tell everyone is don't over burden yourselves with these exams. Honestly I'm an average student, graduated from an average medical college of India. I'm serious when I say that if I can do this, you can do it better! There is no secret to these exams, we all know which books to read, which QBanks to solve. It's only about hard work and dedication. Everyone of knows most of thing that will come in the exam, we all have graduated from a medical college after all, one of the toughest courses there could be! And those who write the review books like Kaplans FAs, they are truly masters of this field and they write everything for us that is needed for the exams. The key does not lie in WHAT we read, but HOW we go about it. Being faithful towards prep and ourselves is the "secret ingredient" (for all the Kung fu Panda fans!). I would never give an advice of what you should read and from where you should read, my only advice is be dedicated and enjoy your studies and life at the same time! This is just a "step" and our ultimate destination. I recommend everyone to read what Dr. Conrad Fischer has written in the initial few pages of his book MTB.

Feel free to ask me anything you want to, I would be glad to help anyone in what little way I can.

Thank you again for creating this wonderful platform! And God bless you all!

Good luck




Hye great going.. Good luck for future n god bless..

Wanted a lil advice.. i just gve my FRED test n got 73% can u tell me how good it is... n hve only a mnth left for the exam.... how good is it ? is it atleast above the danger line.....


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Thanx a lot for such motivating talk..ply I would like to ask u that I graduated in 2009..will I be considered as an undress graduate?
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Would like to ask if you have any advise on way to effectively study the neuroscience section
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congrats on such a nice score . i have newly join this forum and it seems to be so much usefull for my studies .i have started to study for step 1 few months back . can you tell me from where i should study microbiology ? i have read lavenson during academic period but is kaplan is enough or any other advice you want to give , it will be appreciated . thanx
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hello everyone. I'm a newbie here. glad i found this informative thread. i have a question, does the edition of the books matter? Kaplan lecture notes 2014 edition is almost triple the price of a 2013 edition. i'd love to save some money for my long and winding future
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hello everyone. I'm a newbie here. glad i found this informative thread. i have a question, does the edition of the books matter? Kaplan lecture notes 2014 edition is almost triple the price of a 2013 edition. i'd love to save some money for my long and winding future
The 2012/2013 is great. I think the 2014 would be better in terms of DSM-5
Usually what u would score does not depend much on the year of books u use as far as its not more than 10 years old.
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The 2012/2013 is great. I think the 2014 would be better in terms of DSM-5
Usually what u would score does not depend much on the year of books u use as far as its not more than 10 years old.
LOL! thanks a bunch. that is an instant relief cuz i just bought a 2013 kaplan set with 2014 edition of first aid. phew
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i wnt to ask u abt nbme?
wich one is to do 7 or 15?
ne othr in ur view?

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Hi guys,

I'm new to this forum and have been looking at it for past few weeks. Unfortunately, when I was preparing for these exams, I was not aware of this forum. First of all I would like to say thank you to the staff (Sabio, Steptaker and all) and the members for making this site what it is today!

I truly believe that one should never copy the study pattern of another, but should develop his/her own pattern that suits the most to their needs. I will mention the study material I used while preparing for these two exams and if someone finds it useful, it'll be my pleasure!

For step 1, I used KLN, Goljan RR Pathology, FA (as a reinforcer), Lippincott biochemistry for genetics, BRS behavior science and most importantly, UW QBank. Towards the end, I did NBME 7 and UWSA 1 and 2.

For step 2CK, I used KLN for CK, MTB for step 2CK and some topics from CMDT 2011. Again most importantly UW QBank and in the end NBME 7 and UWSA.

But the real thing I wanted to tell everyone is don't over burden yourselves with these exams. Honestly I'm an average student, graduated from an average medical college of India. I'm serious when I say that if I can do this, you can do it better! There is no secret to these exams, we all know which books to read, which QBanks to solve. It's only about hard work and dedication. Everyone of knows most of thing that will come in the exam, we all have graduated from a medical college after all, one of the toughest courses there could be! And those who write the review books like Kaplans FAs, they are truly masters of this field and they write everything for us that is needed for the exams. The key does not lie in WHAT we read, but HOW we go about it. Being faithful towards prep and ourselves is the "secret ingredient" (for all the Kung fu Panda fans!). I would never give an advice of what you should read and from where you should read, my only advice is be dedicated and enjoy your studies and life at the same time! This is just a "step" and our ultimate destination. I recommend everyone to read what Dr. Conrad Fischer has written in the initial few pages of his book MTB.

Feel free to ask me anything you want to, I would be glad to help anyone in what little way I can.

Thank you again for creating this wonderful platform! And God bless you all!

Good luck
Really nice of u to explain everything in detail....am getting 220's in UWSA...exam in 3weesk can i improve in these last weeks....
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Congrats on your scores... I am a 3rd year med student from india and haven't started my preps yet... I've been searching for Kaplan material for a while now with no luck and I cant really afford the Kaplan course...

can you pls tell me where to buy 2nd hand Kaplan books... I stay in mangalore....
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Congrats on your scores... I am a 3rd year med student from india and haven't started my preps yet... I've been searching for Kaplan material for a while now with no luck and I cant really afford the Kaplan course...

can you pls tell me where to buy 2nd hand Kaplan books... I stay in mangalore....
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try in Manipal buddy,u will get it their.

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try in Manipal buddy,u will get it their.

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thnx... but where in manipal..?
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thnx... but where in manipal..?

The xerox shop next to scooby doo,just ask for usmle notes,they'll give u
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congrats brother ,i need your help as i am also preparing for step 1 . my issue is that i start prep in may 2013 and had done with kaplan 2 readings plus u word but for last couple of months due to some family issues my preparation stalled now i need help what to do should i restart i am confused and angry with myself
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did you do kaplan patho and goljan together?
where did you revise patho from?
Im doing goljan audio lectures right now and im stressing out cuz the book has so much information.
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My study time for step 1 was 7 8 months with irregular study scheduling,

I did KLN 2 times properly and one more time only selected topics. FA I just flipped through with KLN. But you can use either as a primary source!

My basics were I guess average! I mean I knew what most knows but I am no genius!

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BIG CONGRATS FOR SUCH A GREAT SCORE-
I M ALSO FROM INDIA AND AN AVERAGE MEDICAL STUDENT.
I RECENTLY STARTED PREPARING FOR USMLE STEP 2 CK.
I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM U URS EXPERIENCE, WHERE U HAVE DONE ABSTRACTS AND ADS.
AND DOES MTB IS NECESSARY TO DO ALONG WITH KAPLAN NOTES OR IF I WANTED TO PREPARE FROM YALES-G CLINICAL REFINED REVIEW-IS IT OK.
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Hello,
First of all congrats for ur scores.... and all the best for ur future steps...
I am also a very average student and i recently made up my mind to give USMLE instead of my countries exam... I graduated in the year 2013 and completed my rotatory internship in march 2014....
I want to ask u one thing... I have heard that fresg graduates are prefered over people who have wasted an year or so as in my case... Is that true and if it is should i reconsider my decision of usmle???


Secondly i wanna ask how many months preparation did it take for u to clear Step 1?? And how many hours did u study each day???


Thirdly any kind of help from u i would really appreciate it....



Thank You...
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For step 2 CK..the books I used I mentioned them in the main post. I did read MTB for 2 CK, it was ok to good types, not super good. KLN are still the main resources to go for according to me. MTB can be a good add-on to KLN if you can get it easily, but I don't think it's good as the main resource. I read for 6-7 months on-off and my routine wasn't something fixed and it varied from 2-3 hrs/day to 8-10 hrs/day.
About the scorings, ofcourse nothing is impossible! I guess one could achieve it if she/he could work super duper uber hard in those 2 weeks! I don't know!!
Thanks for the advice.
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Hey thanks for your and your advices.
really good scores you got!
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Hi,
Thank you for sharing your experience.Congrats on the great scores!
I was wondering if FA, pathoma with the kaplan series along with uworld is enough to get a really good score. Ive been studying and its so hard to retain everything. What would you suggest?
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I need help knowing where to even start studying for USMLE. Im and IMG about to start clinical clerkships. I get overwhelmed hearing people say they study 8 hours a day when i dont have anymore than maybe 4 hours each day after school to study for usmle along with my normal school work. How am i supposed to approach this?
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Hi
I'm from Chennai

I just finished first year
which means I'm doing my second year in Sree Balaji medical college

First of all, congratulations
Just read your article

Here are a couple of things I wanted to ask
1) When did you start your preparation?
2) How long was your study duration?
3) and in what pattern did you study throughout you preparation?
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Did u engage in any tutorials or only read ur books
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congrats on your score, just couple of questions
what was your schedule like?
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Which qbank(s) did you use?
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Hi guys,

I'm new to this forum and have been looking at it for past few weeks. Unfortunately, when I was preparing for these exams, I was not aware of this forum. First of all I would like to say thank you to the staff (Sabio, Steptaker and all) and the members for making this site what it is today!

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For step 1, I used KLN, Goljan RR Pathology, FA (as a reinforcer), Lippincott biochemistry for genetics, BRS behavior science and most importantly, UW QBank. Towards the end, I did NBME 7 and UWSA 1 and 2.

For step 2CK, I used KLN for CK, MTB for step 2CK and some topics from CMDT 2011. Again most importantly UW QBank and in the end NBME 7 and UWSA.

But the real thing I wanted to tell everyone is don't over burden yourselves with these exams. Honestly I'm an average student, graduated from an average medical college of India. I'm serious when I say that if I can do this, you can do it better! There is no secret to these exams, we all know which books to read, which QBanks to solve. It's only about hard work and dedication. Everyone of knows most of thing that will come in the exam, we all have graduated from a medical college after all, one of the toughest courses there could be! And those who write the review books like Kaplans FAs, they are truly masters of this field and they write everything for us that is needed for the exams. The key does not lie in WHAT we read, but HOW we go about it. Being faithful towards prep and ourselves is the "secret ingredient" (for all the Kung fu Panda fans!). I would never give an advice of what you should read and from where you should read, my only advice is be dedicated and enjoy your studies and life at the same time! This is just a "step" and our ultimate destination. I recommend everyone to read what Dr. Conrad Fischer has written in the initial few pages of his book MTB.

Feel free to ask me anything you want to, I would be glad to help anyone in what little way I can.

Thank you again for creating this wonderful platform! And God bless you all!

Good luck
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Congrats on you High Score!! And thank you for motivating everyone that has yet to cross that hurdle.
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Congrats... Finally I know how this forum is
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Truly amazing results and inspiring post!! These posts are the reason why I enjoyed using this forum and decided to sign-up as well... Thank you!
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Congratulations! and thank you for sharing your extremely helpful experience with others!
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