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Hi everyone!
I have received my score! Unfortunetly I got 191! I think residency is impossible for me cause i am an IMG. I guess failing would be better than getting 191
If i get high scores on step 2, could i enter a residency program? My only luck is my CV. I did externships/research. I feel desperate
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Hey cheer up man....its only a step..not ur life...the beauty of USMLE is that u can come back from behind....u have passed step 1...thats an achievement in itself...build in ur cv...sum more paperworks..ur score may be low but u never know...a high score in step 2CK like 240s-250s will definitely brighten ur chance..and yup do please post ur study plan..ur weak areas and ur score in NBMEs,UWSA s and UWORLD percentage..sumtimes its not only acers,i think we need to know ur story too...we too can rectify ourselves...and never loose hope lady..u seem to have a strong CV...build in more paperworks (better if u try them in USA)and try sum more externships if possible..u can definitely get residency..Gud luck
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Thanks a lot for your reply. I am trying not to think about it and focus on the other steps. But also for plan B, I think i will take the exams for a residency in canada. So confused right now.
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Thanks a lot for your reply. I am trying not to think about it and focus on the other steps. But also for plan B, I think i will take the exams for a residency in canada. So confused right now.
Thats definitely a great option and u can try on MPH USA too...and please do tell the percentages u used to get in UWORLD and NBME score.thanks in advance
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well my uworld percentage was %68 (unused-untimed). but i didn't take a nbme self assessment test.
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Thanks a lot for your reply. I am trying not to think about it and focus on the other steps. But also for plan B, I think i will take the exams for a residency in canada. So confused right now.
hey, what exams are you talking about?
i would prefer to do residency in canada so should i be taking these exams you speak of?

also, with such a score i think you should really do your best to make connections. after all, 'its not what you know, its who you know'
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For canada u have to take mccee and mccqee. i don't know the details. I will dig up to find out
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Canada is about 25 times more difficult to get a residency in as an IMG than the US.

Even Canadian residents hardly ever get residency in Canada if they never studied in Canada or the US.
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As an IMG should i be a Canadian citizen or Permanent resident of Canada to apply to a residency program in Canada? Do you know anything about it?
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i'm a canadian citizen but an IMG
eventually i would want to practice in canada, not america
if I could also do residency in canada, rather than america, that would be awesome!
how should i go about looking into this?
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so do i also have to be a Canadian citizen or Permanent resident of Canada to apply to a residency program in Canada???

if you are a canadian citizen i think you should apply for residency in Canada too. From forums i have find out that mccee and mccqe are similar to usmle step 2ck. so you can take both and increase your chances.

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u need to be a canadian citizen or a permanent resident of a province to apply for a matching position. Residencies in canada is a nightmare, canadian medical graduates and AMGs take up about 97% of all available positions, the rest are for IMGs to compete on. In 2010 the highest rate of IMG intake with about 380 being matched from a pool of 1796 applicants. Thats about 23.5% of all who applied and note that 48.5% of them were Canadian born students (CSA's) who were born abroad. So in other words just forget it, its a tough competition and you are better off with the NRMP matching system in the U.S.
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note that 48.5% of them were Canadian born students (CSA's) who were born abroad.


Canadian born students who were born abroad ? .. or studied abroad ?


I think if you have a Canadian citizenship your chances definitely increase but overall chances of getting a residency in Canada are VERY LOW! I am Canadian too and now with the new rules, they don't accept USMLE's either. Before if you write Step 1 and 2 then you would only have to do 1 board exam for Canada. Now it doesnt matter, you have to write all three and they are extremely hard - they have short answers, long answers, multiple choice .. everything on it!
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You passed and that's already a victory, my dear. Study harder for your next Step. Sometimes - and I have hunch that this might be your case - it's not really about how hard you studied, but about how you studied. You might not get into your dream residency, but residency is still a very valid option, specially with your curriculum vitae. Cheer up!
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Canadian born students who were born abroad ? .. or studied abroad ?


I think if you have a Canadian citizenship your chances definitely increase but overall chances of getting a residency in Canada are VERY LOW! I am Canadian too and now with the new rules, they don't accept USMLE's either. Before if you write Step 1 and 2 then you would only have to do 1 board exam for Canada. Now it doesnt matter, you have to write all three and they are extremely hard - they have short answers, long answers, multiple choice .. everything on it!
could you direct me to a site where i can get info on how this works?
yea i remember just hearing u needed to do one board exam after finishing through the US system, but i didnt even know anything about that.
now if there's a new system i should start reading up on it.
i really dont want to practice in the states more than a few years
i want to grow old in the great white north, ima canadian boy
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could you direct me to a site where i can get info on how this works?
yea i remember just hearing u needed to do one board exam after finishing through the US system, but i didnt even know anything about that.
now if there's a new system i should start reading up on it.
i really dont want to practice in the states more than a few years
i want to grow old in the great white north, ima canadian boy

Trust me I know the feeling. I'm a Canadian boy as well but as of now it looks like I'll have to practice in Canada's underwear

Man, to be honest I don't know any site for the info. You just gotta look it up on google. My info was from a word of mouth, nothing factual but I'm pretty sure you gotta write the three Canadian board exams too now.
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Hope2Pass - If you find a link about it can you let us know? Because the last time I checked for the Canadian Residency (which was sometime last year) it was the same old rule.. Take one of the Canadian exams and the other USMLEs...
According to what I heard if you are a canadian citizen you have a better chance.. However, as an IMG It is pretty difficult...
I would also want to do my residency in Canada. I wouldn't want to be in the states to do my residency for Long either. But we will see how it goes...
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Canadian born students who were born abroad ? .. or studied abroad ?


I think if you have a Canadian citizenship your chances definitely increase but overall chances of getting a residency in Canada are VERY LOW! I am Canadian too and now with the new rules, they don't accept USMLE's either. Before if you write Step 1 and 2 then you would only have to do 1 board exam for Canada. Now it doesnt matter, you have to write all three and they are extremely hard - they have short answers, long answers, multiple choice .. everything on it!
I meant Canadians born students who were educated abroad, and what you said is true they don't recognize USMLE exams and if you wanted to apply for a spot in Canada you have to sit for both the mccee and mccqe exams.
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Hope2Pass - If you find a link about it can you let us know? Because the last time I checked for the Canadian Residency (which was sometime last year) it was the same old rule.. Take one of the Canadian exams and the other USMLEs...
According to what I heard if you are a canadian citizen you have a better chance.. However, as an IMG It is pretty difficult...
I would also want to do my residency in Canada. I wouldn't want to be in the states to do my residency for Long either. But we will see how it goes...
check http://www.carms.ca/ u cant apply if you aren't a canadian citizen or a permanent resident of canada.
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check http://www.carms.ca/ u cant apply if you aren't a canadian citizen or a permanent resident of canada.
Works for me!
Since I am a Canadian Citizen
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Anyone who wants info regarding Canadian exams, go to www.mcc.ca
But Canada is way more tough than USA.
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Anyone who wants info regarding Canadian exams, go to www.mcc.ca
But Canada is way more tough than USA.

Thank you!
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For CARMS you must be a Canadian or a P. Resident (Basically the canadian version of green card).
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