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Group talk Step 1 Preparation Insomnia!

who is up all night with me
I have insomnia always get it before and during exams

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wow , good you can study the whole night .... wish i could have it too..

I sleep like a ASS for hours , even before the exam ....

goodluck ....
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wow , good you can study the whole night .... wish i could have it too..

I sleep like a ASS for hours , even before the exam ....

goodluck ....

me, too.
Problem with sleeping too much, not too little.
All medical genius have insomnia, look at House ...
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wow , good you can study the whole night .... wish i could have it too..

I sleep like a ASS for hours , even before the exam ....

goodluck ....
LOL!

Don't worry, Hitman and patho2012, I also sleep most of the day. I like it better when I sleep for 10-12 hours. I'm more productive the next day...

Lately, I have been waking up after only 6 hours of sleep. I feel like crap the whole day! So when I wake up before I get my quota of at least 8 hours. I don't get out from bed and just sleep more... LOL!
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me, too.
Problem with sleeping too much, not too little.
All medical genius have insomnia, look at House ...

Thanks, patho2012! The realization just dawned to me that I'm on the other end of the spectrum...
Faaarrr awwwwaaaaaayyy from the medical geniuses... LOL!
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hey i have a good solution for this problem.insomnia during exam prep is common ,it is mainly because anxiety and stress break our sleep cycle.u should take sleep aid just once during a night .u can take clonazepam or zolpidem etc.
just take one or two consecutive nights so as to begin the normal sleep cycle. hopefully the other nights u will feel sleepy the same time and sleep cycle will begin again as pre prep days.

also restrict coffee 6 hours before sleep and the no. of cups to not more than 2.
i did the above and it helped tremendously.
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I got to the point when you cut down on sleeping and sleeping is not even bother you anymore - you can study 24/7 and be alert...
I lasted a week like that and than my body crushed.
Beware of that.
Sleeping and having a mental rest is the most important part of our preparation.
Do not underestimate this... I did and it costed me.
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who is up allnight with me
Ihave insomnia always get it before and during exams

anyone else out there?
One week before the exam, do like step_enhancer said, make sure your body clock is set right. You can start to slowly train yourself 3 weeks before the exam.

On the day BEFORE the exam, wake up really early, go out, and have fun. Anything that takes your mind off the exam. Absolutely no to any form of caffeine. Make yourself tired. By the end the day, you'll be sleepy.

To illustrate: If your exam is on Friday, wake up really early on Thursday like 4 or 5 am. Go out and walk (do physical activity). You'll be sleepy and tired when you get home. You'll be able to sleep at 8 am.

Also, a few weeks before the exam, try taking Zolpidem, etc. Observe how it affects you. Look for the right sleep aid. The one that doesn't make you feel groggy the next day. This sleep aid will be your back-up plan if the above doesn't work for you.
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Just masterbate and you should have no problem falling asleep.
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Just masterbate and you should have no problem falling asleep.
thats how people get 99?
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Just masterbate and you should have no problem falling asleep.
hahahahhahaha

was not expecting this during this thread. thanks for the laugh.

I agree with the thread starter, too much tension is making me get up earlier then i would like!
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thats how people get 99?
LOL! No one would have guessed...
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good to know Im not alone
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did nbme 13 while awake all night! got 219
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Damn!
How did I miss this thread??
I have major sleeping issues!!!
I cant sleep properly at night! I used to stay up till 5 am... And then wake up at 1 pm... Not to mention how many times I woke up in the middle of my sleep.
But lately I have been sleeping around 2 (That's an improvement) yet I wake up between 10-11am. And of course I wake up alot in the middle of my sleep! And then have to force myself to fall asleep. Which then makes me feel sleepy during the day... Err!!
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Damn!
How did I miss this thread??
I have major sleeping issues!!!
I cant sleep properly at night! I used to stay up till 5 am... And then wake up at 1 pm... Not to mention how many times I woke up in the middle of my sleep.
But lately I have been sleeping around 2 (That's an improvement) yet I wake up between 10-11am. And of course I wake up alot in the middle of my sleep! And then have to force myself to fall asleep. Which then makes me feel sleepy during the day... Err!!
Tell me about it... I've developed hyperthyroidism during this preparation. I used to go to bed at 6-7 am and then wake up at 10-11am of the same morning for a little bit more than 4 months... Now I'm getting better, I use this webpage
http://www.rainymood.com/
and this
http://naturesoundsfor.me/Peaceful_rainy_night

to try to relax myself... and it works!!! I just listen to this at night (kind of conditioned learning mechanism)
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Tell me about it... I've developed hyperthyroidism during this preparation. I used to go to bed at 6-7 am and then wake up at 10-11am of the same morning for a little bit more than 4 months... Now I'm getting better, I use this webpage
http://www.rainymood.com/
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http://naturesoundsfor.me/Peaceful_rainy_night

to try to relax myself... and it works!!! I just listen to this at night (kind of conditioned learning mechanism)
Waw! Hyperthyroidism?
I will try listening to it.. Though I might be able to go to sleep with it.. But not sure abt staying asleep without waking up in the middle of the night.
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I used to go to bed at 6-7 am and then wake up at 10-11am of the same morning

Oh man, that is ME right now I've been doing that for the past 2 weeks! (hence increased activity on the forums when I get bored of studying ... specially at night )


Thanks for those links, I will try to use them to my benefits. I think we all go through these phases of insomnia!
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Oh man, that is ME right now I've been doing that for the past 2 weeks! (hence increased activity on the forums when I get bored of studying ... specially at night )


Thanks for those links, I will try to use them to my benefits. I think we all go through these phases of insomnia!
I am sure we do..
Oh yea.. The one way I fall asleep is by closing my eyes and not opening it no matter what.. And telling myself "SLEEP! SLEEP" Repeatedly so nothing else is going on in my mind.. It does take some time.. But then eventually I fall asleep.. But I need a better, faster way.. lol! So I am going to try Dr.Mexito's way..
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I am sure we do..
Oh yea.. The one way I fall asleep is by closing my eyes and not opening it no matter what.. And telling myself "SLEEP! SLEEP" Repeatedly so nothing else is going on in my mind.. It does take some time.. But then eventually I fall asleep.. But I need a better, faster way.. lol! So I am going to try Dr.Mexito's way..
Two nights ago I was having trouble sleeping .. I tried that technique .. just closed my eyes and tried to sleep but then around 4:30 I woke up and the first words I said out loud frantically was "DSM FOUR" and then I looked at the time, and layed back down and cudn't sleep till 6 am It's test & study anxiety I guess
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Two nights ago I was having trouble sleeping .. I tried that technique .. just closed my eyes and tried to sleep but then around 4:30 I woke up and the first words I said out loud frantically was "DSM FOUR" and then I looked at the time, and layed back down and cudn't sleep till 6 am It's test & study anxiety I guess
LOOOL!!
I am sure it is!!
Even when my eyes are sleepy my brain is thinking about what I need to do tom.. Errr! Hate it!!
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Waw! Hyperthyroidism?
I will try listening to it.. Though I might be able to go to sleep with it.. But not sure abt staying asleep without waking up in the middle of the night.


Yeah man... I'm on pills now, btw tomorrow I'm going for a blood check. Things are getting better.

Some other things that I do:

  1. no coffee/tea/chocolate related food after 4-5 pm... no matters what.
  2. Avoid this forum prior to bed time. Finding Qs to solve or a topic that might have called my attention does gives me some level of anxiety = I go to bed to but I keep think about the topic or Q. LEAVE IT FOR THE NEXT DAY.
  3. Drink a lot of water during the day... Pure water!!!
  4. Hot milk with honey before going to bed if you are to stressed out.
  5. No Qs before bed time (same reason as for No. 2)
  6. The links that I've already mentioned.
If all of the above have failed. Last resources:


  1. Get some orange tea (makes you want to sleep, is not addictive, creates not dependency... 100% natural). You can also peal an orange, put the skin to dry... boil the dried skin and drink the water = sleeping tea.
  2. Lettuce tea. Same way as in 1. but here you do not put the lettuce to dry... Here you use it fresh and green. (Careful, this one is really strong and depending on the dose [how much lettuce you use] you might wake up next morning with a little hangover)
  3. Passiflora tea
  4. Valerian root tea or pills (You can get pills in any GNC)
General advices:


Like in Kaplan BS: try to make a ritual before going to go to sleep and keep it that way. Do not modify it. Use your bed to sleep and for nothing else.


30 min on bed and still awake???... get out of there and do something else (But don't come here. We don't want you here during your sleep time , we want you to sleep and to get some rest. Next day in the morning, we will be happy to see you back with us to discuss some new stuff )


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Insomnia here !!!
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Yeah man... I'm on pills now, btw tomorrow I'm going for a blood check. Things are getting better.

Some other things that I do:

  1. no coffee/tea/chocolate related food after 4-5 pm... no matters what.
  2. Avoid this forum prior to bed time. Finding Qs to solve or a topic that might have called my attention does gives me some level of anxiety = I go to bed to but I keep think about the topic or Q. LEAVE IT FOR THE NEXT DAY.
  3. Drink a lot of water during the day... Pure water!!!
  4. Hot milk with honey before going to bed if you are to stressed out.
  5. No Qs before bed time (same reason as for No. 2)
  6. The links that I've already mentioned.
If all of the above have failed. Last resources:


  1. Get some orange tea (makes you want to sleep, is not addictive, creates not dependency... 100% natural). You can also peal an orange, put the skin to dry... boil the dried skin and drink the water = sleeping tea.
  2. Lettuce tea. Same way as in 1. but here you do not put the lettuce to dry... Here you use it fresh and green. (Careful, this one is really strong and depending on the dose [how much lettuce you use] you might wake up next morning with a little hangover)
  3. Passiflora tea
  4. Valerian root tea or pills (You can get pills in any GNC)
General advices:


Like in Kaplan BS: try to make a ritual before going to go to sleep and keep it that way. Do not modify it. Use your bed to sleep and for nothing else.


30 min on bed and still awake???... get out of there and do something else (But don't come here. We don't want you here during your sleep time , we want you to sleep and to get some rest. Next day in the morning, we will be happy to see you back with us to discuss some new stuff )


"And that's all I have to say about that"
Thank you!
Will try some of that...
I don't drink coffee/tea.. The only thing I drink is WATER or Green tea(once a day). And again have forgotten on chocolate for a while.. Lol!
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I have a terrible sleeping schedule. I try to do without pills, but after a while I start sleeping at 6am and waking up at 2pm (thank goodness I don't have any morning classes!). When it gets this terrible, I do the following (which I'm probably starting tomorrow):
  1. No coffee, tea, or energy drinks.
  2. 1-hour of morning exercise.
  3. No eating after 6pm.
  4. Zolpidem or clonazepam (10 drops).
  5. Turn of the lights, computer, and TV.

After 1 or 2 weeks of doing this, you manage to regulate your sleeping schedule. However, in my case, it always tends to move as time passes by.
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After 1 or 2 weeks of doing this, you manage to regulate your sleeping schedule. However, in my case, it always tends to move as time passes by.
LOL! Mine too. My friends can't keep track what time of the day I'm awake!
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How many hours of sleep are you guys getting?

seems to me no matter what time i sleep vein 4/5/6 am my biological clock wakes me up at 11 am...
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How many hours of sleep are you guys getting?

seems to me no matter what time i sleep vein 4/5/6 am my biological clock wakes me up at 11 am...
I also currently sleep around that time at 5-6 am, I wake up at around 1 pm +/- 1 hour.

That's 8 hrs of sleep...

Do you feel refreshed the next day? If not, maybe it's anxiety. There was a time I keep getting only 5 hours of sleep. It was due to stress during that time thinking about my sked.
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I also currently sleep around that time at 5-6 am, I wake up at around 1 pm +/- 1 hour.

That's 8 hrs of sleep...

Do you feel refreshed the next day? If not, maybe it's anxiety. There was a time I keep getting only 5 hours of sleep. It was due to stress during that time thinking about my sked.
Nice..i wish i could get 8 hours

Yea i feel fairly refreshed the next day so its not really concerning but i do have to have a nap around 7/8 for about an hour....but yea definitely some anxiety aspect is there also...want this thing to be over!!
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Seems im the only one here who has no trouble sleeping lol
I sleep 12-9am every night.
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Seems im the only one here who has no trouble sleeping lol
I sleep 12-9am every night.
wow 9 hours everyday? That's a lot!
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I also currently sleep around that time at 5-6 am, I wake up at around 1 pm +/- 1 hour.

That's 8 hrs of sleep...

Do you feel refreshed the next day? If not, maybe it's anxiety. There was a time I keep getting only 5 hours of sleep. It was due to stress during that time thinking about my sked.
That used to be my time 5/6am - 1pm+/- an hr.
Now its 3am +/- an hr to 10am +/- an hr... Except I wake up several times in the middle.. So when I come back from the gym I have to take a nap (afternoon)
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