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Pathoma VS Goljan what is better
If you have tried both of them, please vote for the one you think is better
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Of course Goljan.

Pathoma is a failed attempt to copy Goljan!
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I used goljan during medschool and am currently using pathoma for my step 1 preparation. I would have to go with pathoma
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guys i need more opinions on this from guys who used both
I will get one and I only can afford one :\
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I'm using Pathoma for the sake of brevity; I have Goljan and consult it when Pathoma doesn't have something. I feel like Goljan integrates more pathophys with path, but there are too many bullet points and Pathoma puts things more succinctly.
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which one is better. i did golijan once and its a bit too much for me to remember. i wanna write exams in august. should i change books now???
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if you have done goljan already i would advice using pathoma, but before doing it give a quick review for every corresponding chapter. i think only pathoma isn't enough for the whole pathology, because it majorly covers histopathology and pathologic anatomy. Goljan deals also with pathophys and many other concepts.
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pathoma is the way to go.
goljan is overkill.
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thank you dr nick....i really appreciate your help. you rock!!!!!
why do you think dr nick rocks?
you have already decided using pathoma and needs support which dr nick gave you
goljan is still GOLD when it comes to usmle...you can use pathoma if you are having problems understanding pathology BUT goljan rr and audio is still the way to go baby
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you all rock for giving me your insight
thing is i have gone through golijan audio and notes twice and im still having trouble with recalling everything in it. thought pathoma would simplyfy things. but im still confused if i should change my book since i have exams in august....
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What are you guys talking about! Of course Goljan better

Ask any AMG, ask any recent exam taker, they'll all swear by Goljan
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What are you guys talking about! Of course Goljan better

Ask any AMG, ask any recent exam taker, they'll all swear by Goljan
Nah, all AMGs have ditches goljan for pathoma.
Its only us IMGs that are still clinging to it.
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to ditch or not to ditch golijan....that is the question
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to ditch or not to ditch golijan....that is the question
Ditch it

to decide depending on this poll, it will need minimum a month to vote more than 50 people. so don't wait my friends go kill goljan + pathoma ... yes both
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Ditch it

to decide depending on this poll, it will need minimum a month to vote more than 50 people. so don't wait my friends go kill goljan + pathoma ... yes both

thank you i appreciate your help guys.
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I use Pathoma and its amaaaazing !! Its soo good !! I believe its the best resource for pathology. Goljian is good also but it will take a lot of time to finish it and i have no time for spending one month for patho.. I want to finish patho and pharma in one month.. Do u think its possible??
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hi doctor did u find any link or source for pathoma. i am done with goljan but its an overkill. please if you find anything helpfull do let me know
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I am preparing for step 1.. bit confused whether I shuld go for goljan or kaplan fr pathology...plz guys help me out..thanks!
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I am preparing for step 1.. bit confused whether I shuld go for goljan or kaplan fr pathology...plz guys help me out..thanks!
to answer your question can you tell us about
1)time dedicated to pathology?
2)have you studied kaplan patholgy/goljan RR3/Pathoma before or during your med school?
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stuck between these two options for patho.....
which one is best suited....
goljan audio lectures r excellent but d notes which are almost 600 pages with minute text is posing a problem to retain that humongous volume of info.and even after doing it is it that important???...
will pathoma be sufficient for patho.... first aid and u world is mandatory ....just want to choose between goljan n pathoma... should i bother to see kaplan videos on patho n read kaplan patho notes??... in short how should i approach patho???? need advice
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I can't give you advice on which one to pick between Goljian and Pathoma, since I've only done Goljian... so needless to say my opinion would have a bias.

But... what I will advice you is that, please do not waste your time with kaplan pathology. (Just my opinion).
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I can't give you advice on which one to pick between Goljian and Pathoma, since I've only done Goljian... so needless to say my opinion would have a bias.

But... what I will advice you is that, please do not waste your time with kaplan pathology. (Just my opinion).
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i am almost done with pathoma and il tell you its pure gold.goljan is time tested book while pathoma is new.but its wont take you more than 2 weeks to complete pathoma.after that you can listen to goljans audios one hour each day.and do your other subjects rest of the day.you wont feel the burden.
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Go for pathoma with Goljan audio(nice combo)
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i am almost done with pathoma and il tell you its pure gold.goljan is time tested book while pathoma is new.but its wont take you more than 2 weeks to complete pathoma.after that you can listen to goljans audios one hour each day.and do your other subjects rest of the day.you wont feel the burden.
P.S i loved pathoma
that seems to be a good option..... pathoma n goljan audio.. did u do pathoma videos also while learning from the book..
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that seems to be a good option..... pathoma n goljan audio.. did u do pathoma videos also while learning from the book..
i listen to the videos and read the book side by side to add whatever is not written in text.
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i listen to the videos and read the book side by side to add whatever is not written in text.
hmm.... can the book and videos only be ordered online .. or der r sources to download d book n videos????
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I don't want to confuse u ...
but what about BRS patho as I 've heard it 's less than goljan & sufficient????
& what 's pathoma 1st time I hear about it

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Ya true review will be given by that person who have gone through goljian and pathoma both but i don't think that anyone would go for any book after reading 600 pages of goljian's.
My recommendation:
Pathoma seems promising and goljian is hard to do stuff but once you will be done with goljian's twice. You will get an confidence boost.

Above all, what i got from different reviews- if you have both the books then atleast go through first 8 chapters of goljian's and then do organ reviews from pathoma or BRS. As you like.
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What about goljan audio and kaplan patho???
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What about goljan audio and kaplan patho???
goljian audio + kaplan patho + Uworld was perfect combo according to old exam takers. So i think it works well.
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Pathoma is a failed attempt to copy Goljan!
Obviously, there are some similarities ( I guess because of the fact that they are both talking pathology ). " COPY!", No, no!
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hey guys alot of news going around about Goljan or Pathoma..... i have already read goljan n been through the lectures... now m settling in for a revision.... should it be goljan high yield or should i take up Pathoma now.... exam is in Jan...
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goljAN is redundant in some places.. too much stuff.. more than u need fr step 1.... but goljan it is! i believe...
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At this stage, I don't think you should pick up a new book. You should go with the book you've been using your entire prep.
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Goljan is absolutely unequivacely THE BEST TEACHER I have ever heard or learned from.Go for Goljan guys.Yes its tough to read yes Its very bulky but I think it will make me a BETTER DOCTOR with better understanding of everything.Its not only about Step 1 its about being a better doctor in my opinion.Listen to Goljan lectures.He will change your perspective about medicine.Changed mine and I love listening to him
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Goljan is absolutely unequivacely THE BEST TEACHER I have ever heard or learned from.Go for Goljan guys.Yes its tough to read yes Its very bulky but I think it will make me a BETTER DOCTOR with better understanding of everything.Its not only about Step 1 its about being a better doctor in my opinion.Listen to Goljan lectures.He will change your perspective about medicine.Changed mine and I love listening to him

Hi Lara,
Have you tried any of Dr. Goljan's questions? I tried some last night...Are they supposed to be harder than Uworld or easier?
Also, while we're on the subject of questions, has anyone tried Robin's Q book? any comments/reviews?

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Have you tried any of Dr. Goljan's questions? I tried some last night...Are they supposed to be harder than Uworld or easier?
Also, while we're on the subject of questions, has anyone tried Robin's Q book? any comments/reviews?

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I didnt try goljan questions but I have done a few Qs from Robbins and Boy they are tough but Excellent companion to RR Goljan if you have time.I think they are even better than UW Seriously
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I did about three hundred or so of the Goljan questions online. It took me time to get through them because I had only just started to study pathology then. The explanations to the questions do a good job in explaining the differences in the disease processes. A few questions here and there can get repetitive (I especially recall the Malassezia furfur ones). If you've read the book you'll realize that all the questions and explanations are based on everything he covers in the text, including the pictures.

I did also manage to do questions from a few sections in "Robbins Review of Pathology". My pathology was very weak which is why I decided to complement Goljan with the questions in Robbins and they really do complement each other well. The explanations are excellent but it took me a really long time to get through the portions of the book that I did. I couldn't finish the entire book because at some point I got really tired of going through those lab values, highlighting, and annotating. It really did take some time commitment (just like FA has mentioned in its review of the book).

I must also add that I did the Pathoma lectures along with the Pathoma book. I think it's an excellent review. The value of Pathoma lies in its simplicity, organization, and the ease with which Dr. Sattar is able to deliver the big picture. I felt like I was able to assimilate Goljan much better after going through Pathoma. Goljan is a very integrated book and I can see its value for any exam. But if someone isn't comfortable with the basic concepts of pathology to start with, the book can get quite daunting. It's this hole that Pathoma fills.
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Hi, would you be kind enough to send me the goljan audios and any notes you got plz?, my email is a_manzanar@hotmail.com TYVM
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I am using goljan and will continue to do so, why ??

(1) Because i am not sure pathoma is Dependable even though fun.. Dr sattar is a very nice person down to earth , i would say the explanation made me understand PNH better than goljan audios ,but his experience is less than goljan for USMLE , which make significant difference in detail orientation , saying that i am sure this guy will be the best in fewer years than goljan took to become the best .....

(2) Goljan is also the author of
Board simulator series (usual resource of 99r's long back )
Most commons in medicine (a book which gives you most common disease in USA)
pathology RR (you all know that)
and 35 years of teaching combined make him selective on board material


For Eg : Goljan vs Pathoma , i was suprised to see pathoma having more detail than goljan , forgive me i have never read the pathoma book but just saw his video of pathoma on PNH (search in youtube );

GOLJAN
The bullet format kills me , can't actually read through it with fun

PATHOMA
He does some picky details Eg CD55 (DAF) , i dont think they would ask CD marker for the rare disease , MIRL and DAF i dont think they would ask for these , goljan does mention DAP , i think because its the major cause but still i think its not needed
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Pathoma is NOt a copt of goljan and is way better! GET IT!!
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Hey guys . my patho is weak i have the pathoma videos and the goljian RR book .. which is better to study from ?


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having not read Pathoma... i have only one option... goljan (plus audio).... Dr. Goljan rocks pathology as hard as anything
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guys i have done goljan once but its too lenghty and hard to retain
should i move to pathoma as i heard its shorter and high yield or stick with goljan ???
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stick to goljan

and just listen to pathoma videos

you will have a great boast in knowledge
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True. In my view, Revise goljan listen to parhomas videos..
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I did Goljan once and its a bit too much for me to remember.
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i think another choice should be added

Goljan + (Pathoma videos only )


I bet most do that .....but i must admit pathoma videos are way too good to skip ....for starters go though pathoma videos to have an idea about the topic and then cramp up goljan with his audios......goljan is gold btw
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hey i'm runnin short of time so was considering doing just the pathoma book without the videos .Is it ok ? or are they extra stuff in the videos ??
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hey i'm runnin short of time so was considering doing just the pathoma book without the videos .Is it ok ? or are they extra stuff in the videos ??
Pathoma videos are absolutely brilliant if you ask me ...why ?

1-He makes every thing simple ---even the hardest concepts through simple diagrams which are easy to remember

2-these are short --- so 3-4 days of dedicated watching you can complete that all

3-you will grasp the text of pathoma or Goljan more easily if you watch the videos prior

you can watch the videos at 1.5x speed which is an option in most players like vlc and you can complete the videos a bit early

But i tell you pathoma is only famous because of its videos .....and i will recommend every person to follow them no matter what books they are following for the text
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Pathoma videos are absolutely brilliant if you ask me ...why ?

1-He makes every thing simple ---even the hardest concepts through simple diagrams which are easy to remember

2-these are short --- so 3-4 days of dedicated watching you can complete that all

3-you will grasp the text of pathoma or Goljan more easily if you watch the videos prior

you can watch the videos at 1.5x speed which is an option in most players like vlc and you can complete the videos a bit early

But i tell you pathoma is only famous because of its videos .....and i will recommend every person to follow them no matter what books they are following for the text
U mean 3 to 4 days for the pathoma vedios? So how many hours per day did you get for the calculation? Thanks.
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the total time for videos are 34.1 hours

if you watch the videos at 1.5x then the time will take 22.7 hours exactly ....

if you break the time for exactly 5 hours day of watching .....you will complete it in 4 days exactly ..... but this is not easy and it takes real dedication to watch it continuously but it is achievable .....
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Guys i have a question. I listened golijan's auido lectures and added notes when he said its high yield plus found photos that he used in his lectures and also added them on my notes. Is it necessary to read rapid review book? or 128page audio notes are enough? thanks.
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it actually depends on how strong your basic is , if you do not have a good background of knowledge in pathology , taking goljan would nt be effective .
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Pathoma while annotating BRS Patho and doing the BRS Patho questions along the way - finish it in 7 days.

I did about 1/3rd of goljan audio here and there + and looked through the answered questions, but I would put Pathoma + BRS Patho (including all the questions).

Though I did Robbins Review throughout my school year as well.
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Goljan is highly detailed and time consuming , I would say pathoma therefore
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pathoma is just the answer if you have no time. Gojan has become even more bulkier. It is like big robbins now 800 pages.
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Goljan Audio + Pathoma video= Best of both worlds!
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If considering INPUT/OUTPUT ratio Pathoma is just brilliant. You guys can read my experience regarding these books here
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I am preparing for step 1.. bit confused whether I shuld go for goljan or kaplan fr pathology...plz guys help me out..thanks!
The same problem i would like to read Goljan but Kaplan with 288 pages is so short which makes it attractive compared to the 770 pages Goljan
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The same problem i would like to read Goljan but Kaplan with 288 pages is so short which makes it attractive compared to the 770 pages Goljan
Trust me go with Pathoma , i had the same dilemma and i made the right choice. Kaplan is very random and very deficient. Pathoma is amazing
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Trust me go with Pathoma , i had the same dilemma and i made the right choice. Kaplan is very random and very deficient. Pathoma is amazing
My problem with pathoma is that the book is still new and in its first edition ...I wish I can shift to pathoma but I don't want to have a risk ...beside I m readibng Goljan now and ihave this phobia of how to remember these info until my exam ...confusion has no limit in step 1
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My problem with pathoma is that the book is still new and in its first edition ...I wish I can shift to pathoma but I don't want to have a risk ...beside I m readibng Goljan now and ihave this phobia of how to remember these info until my exam ...confusion has no limit in step 1
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Pathoma is the new goljan

And you are mistaken if you think pathoma is risk. Pathoma+uworld done cold will cover 95% questions u'll encounter. And the best part is that it is easy and gives you very good knowledge foundation and tells you where to focus. Goljan is just a hugeeee bulk of information thrown at ya
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After experiencing both and doing questions from Qbanks, i came to see that i can solve most pathology questions with pathoma and it outlines the most must-to-know stuff of Pathology ( as what it advertises to do ) ....

But Goljan here is on another level here .....it does what it is known for ....integrations !! .... It will strengthen your every subject ...not just pathology but physiology , biochem, histology ,pharmacology....you name it .... and this is why you need this .....you can get 250 from just reading FA alone but you are 1 in 10000 ....For me i want someone to point out everything what is happening and goljan does that best .... Yup it can stretch a little bit at times and can include the step 2 CK parts ...but it doesn't hurt that much either ....

Also score is not just about ripping the resources ....it is more than that ...you can get a guy who score 250 just by doing UW + FA ...and Someone who scores pretty low doing everything a 260 guy would have done


Bottom Line : If you have got time do Goljan !

i personally like to do both Goljan + Pathoma videos( these are just great )
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After experiencing both and doing questions from Qbanks, i came to see that i can solve most pathology questions with pathoma and it outlines the most must-to-know stuff of Pathology ( as what it advertises to do ) ....

But Goljan here is on another level here .....it does what it is known for ....integrations !! .... It will strengthen your every subject ...not just pathology but physiology , biochem, histology ,pharmacology....you name it .... and this is why you need this .....you can get 250 from just reading FA alone but you are 1 in 10000 ....For me i want someone to point out everything what is happening and goljan does that best .... Yup it can stretch a little bit at times and can include the step 2 CK parts ...but it doesn't hurt that much either ....

Also score is not just about ripping the resources ....it is more than that ...you can get a guy who score 250 just by doing UW + FA ...and Someone who scores pretty low doing everything a 260 guy would have done


Bottom Line : If you have got time do Goljan !

i personally like to do both Goljan + Pathoma videos( these are just great )
I think goljan can be an overkill , specially for average students like me, and alot of people have trouble adjusting to this book , i know i had when i tried to give it a chance. Pathoma was my last resort and i was amazed why most people were not using this book . i started doing this book considering that maybe it would help me in getting basic concepts and then i would switch to goljan (because everybody was saying you cant score good without it) , but once i was done with it properly and also did uworld pathology with it i was blown away by how much i knew by then , patho was probably the last subject i did , so also didnt got much chance to revise it that many times , but thats the beauty of it , its so concise that can be revised again n again in very little time . I agree with you that maybe some people not be able to get too much score with it but what do u think of those average students who try their luck with Goljan and hardly be able to revise it twice? he wont be able to concentrate on high yield stuff at all . I guess you guys who did goljan are unfair by keep recommending this book over n again , i know i felt very very low when all my seniors told me that you wont be able to cross 240+ at all if you skipped Goljan , but my highest performance was in pathology and i didnt even gave even a single Goljan chapter a proper read and sticked to pathoma+uworld and final read from FA. Pathoma is the new great thing with best input/output ratio and i want all the new students to atleast give it a single try. They wont regret it and would hardly take them 15-20 days with book/lectures . Goljan itself takes atleast 1 month to go through the first time and after that you are no where. SO KINDLY STOP DISCOURAGING PEOPLE WITH THIS GOLJAN IS A MUST THING
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goljan is definitely the best. but its too much for Step 1. pathos is simple and less time consuming... !
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Well,pathoma is good but goljan is better. The exam is all about concepts and integration of facts which is the outlook in goljan pathology. So in my opinion goljan, especially the 4th edition is by far the best book for step1.
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I just took my Step 1 and still have Pathoma valid till April 29th.
Selling the rest of my Pathoma subscription for $50.
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Guys i tried both of them. Pathoma is a kid compared to goljan. Pathoma is good for explaining concepts hard to understand and retain thats all. I thınk you should subscribe pathoma 1 month just to revise your weak subjects after you read goljan.
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i say if you have time do goljan and then pathoma, but if you dont then pathoma only. goljan will take you a while to go through. 800 pages
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