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Help Fluctuating USMLE practice Exam Scores

Test is this Friday March 30th - Hoping for any last minute advice!

Any suggestions would be appreciated!

Pre-Study (NBME - Not sure #): 190

Then about 3 months later
3/11/12 NBME 6: 212
3/18/12 UWSA1: 232
3/22/12 NBME12: 206 (NOT HAPPY > Freak out mode!)
3/25/12 UWSA2: 242 > (overestimate much! wishful thinking tho!)

Also finished UWorld Qbank with about 62%

I can see in doing questions that I seem to miss alot of the details. I plan on spending these last few days focusing on cramming those details/pharm into my head via flash cards. In doing so Id be laying off question practice until the exam....

Is this a bad idea?!
What is my realistic score range considering this fluctuation in scores?!

I do plan on completing the Kaplan Full length simulation this tuesday just to have a full idea of full 7 blocks and timing.
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dont even waste ur time on the full length 7 blocks stimulated test, ur test is very soon, and any new questins wont be that efficient for u, neither will u gain any new experience neither will it affect ur endurance for the test!

i havent taken step1 yet, but trust me, doing 8 hours the day just before the test isnt a good idea, or even one week before the test, why?
1- wasting preciuos time on training.. that u might not gain any benifet from
2- no matter what happens inthat test, u wont postpone the exam, doesnt matter whether u get 54% or 98%.. the exam will be taken within a few days
3- imagine u got tired, stressed, bored, pissed off during the stimulated exam... it'll just add more pressure to u in a time u do not any more stress! ur much better off without that extera stress,
4- the stimulated test wont show u where u were wrong, it'll just show u a score
5- in those 8 hours,, study the flash cards, memorize those wierd side effects so if u got those questions [which u will get] in the real exam... they will only take 10 seconds to answer... giving u more time on the questions with long stems or graphs
6- if u finished 100% of ur qbank , make use of ur subscription in the last days to review wrong questions by making ur own blocks out of the wrong+marked questions... u'll get through 200-300 questions perday, if u do that for 2 days,,,, u'll be done with most of questions ~ 500 Questions, since u said u're score was around 62%... u dont have a 1000 questions wrong or marked,
its ur last week, wake up from very early int he morning, keep solving questions till 10 pm at night, GO DIRECTLY TO BED, so u can get used to sleeping early!

7. next day --> repeat point #6

8-in my last week of prep, i would personally revise first aid and the notes i've wrote in it, but that coz i based my study on that way, inur case, just see where u focused more on,,,,,, and hit that hard
revise forgetables, e.i glycogen storage dieases etc

10- dont even care about the fluctuating scores!!! they mean nothing!! the test is what matters,,,
getting 62 in a question bank is pretty good, which means u got a lot of questions wrong... and therefore u read the explanation, and so u learned more! dont worry it'll be fine ... and in the test, u'll have epinephrine level flooding ur bloodstream,, u'll be able to finish 10 blocks, dont waste a preciuos day on a stimulated test, solve another UWSA in my point of view and get a good score, it'll give u a boost instead of a depressing kaplan score, i solved that question bank and i know it :P

just see exactly what u want to do in the last few days, make a plan, log out of the forum,stick ur plan and come back when ur done with test to give us ur experience all the best of luck, Doc
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eek u got 206 a few days ago?
you need to take another nbme asap.
uwsa means nothing, its just blowing smoke up ur ass
take nbme 7 and see where u really are.
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4- the stimulated test wont show u where u were wrong, it'll just show u a score
Thanks for your post, drhma!

I am about to take the kaplan simulated test a week from now before an nbme... Just to give me courage or something. I didn't know that it won't show the questions where I am wrong... I thought it's like a regular qbank -- only that I have to take it 300 mcqs at a time under time pressure.

I have a couple of questions regarding the kaplan simulated test:

- Does it give explanations to the questions?
- Does it show a breakdown or point to weak subjects like the cumulative performance in uworld?
- Can we access the questions after the test? If we can't, can we access the test questions through the kaplan qbank (maybe they're there somewhere??


Anyone else who knows, feel free to reply... Thanks!
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Test is this Friday March 30th - Hoping for any last minute advice!

Any suggestions would be appreciated!

Pre-Study (NBME - Not sure #): 190

Then about 3 months later
3/11/12 NBME 6: 212
3/18/12 UWSA1: 232
3/22/12 NBME12: 206 (NOT HAPPY > Freak out mode!)
3/25/12 UWSA2: 242 > (overestimate much! wishful thinking tho!)

Also finished UWorld Qbank with about 62%

I can see in doing questions that I seem to miss alot of the details. I plan on spending these last few days focusing on cramming those details/pharm into my head via flash cards. In doing so Id be laying off question practice until the exam....

Is this a bad idea?!
What is my realistic score range considering this fluctuation in scores?!

I do plan on completing the Kaplan Full length simulation this tuesday just to have a full idea of full 7 blocks and timing.
My sincerest advice. Take Nbme 7 and 13 on the same day. Simulate the exam experience. Depending on your target score, decide after NBME 7 score.
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see thi topic withiin this forum
kaplan diagnostic test and kaplan simulated exams??


and also read this one, just a few replies to the bottom
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=624528
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see thi topic withiin this forum
kaplan diagnostic test and kaplan simulated exams??


and also read this one, just a few replies to the bottom
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=624528
I read the links... So I guess it's a NO to all my questions. Did I get it right?
- Does it give explanations to the questions? No
- Does it show a breakdown or point to weak subjects like the cumulative performance in uworld? No
- Can we access the questions after the test? If we can't, can we access the test questions through the kaplan qbank (maybe they're there somewhere?? No


If I did get it right... LOL! you could have just typed in those two letters, you know.
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a whole thread to read is more trustworthy than a simple"no", neither would u be that comfortable with taking a simple answer,

dont know if u noticed, that the diagnostic test [150 Qs] in kaplan, does give u ur weak areas, the stimulated test doesnt give u anything though.. so its a "NO" :P
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a whole thread to read is more trustworthy than a simple"no", neither would u be that comfortable with taking a simple answer,

dont know if u noticed, that the diagnostic test [150 Qs] in kaplan, does give u ur weak areas, the stimulated test doesnt give u anything though.. so its a "NO" :P
Hahaha... You have a point! I found the second link very helpful, by the way.

Yep... I kind of noticed that. It's disappointing because considering that I'll be spending 7 hours for the simulated test, it won't even give me a breakdown of my weak subjects! Bec of that, there's a change of plans for me. It's a good thing you were here.
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Bec of that, there's a change of plans for me. It's a good thing you were here.
we're all in one boat, im sure people will be there for me till just before my test... two weeks prior to my exam im probably gonna spread chaos all over,might even share my panic attacks here LOL :P
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Test is this Friday March 30th - Hoping for any last minute advice!

Any suggestions would be appreciated!

Pre-Study (NBME - Not sure #): 190

Then about 3 months later
3/11/12 NBME 6: 212
3/18/12 UWSA1: 232
3/22/12 NBME12: 206 (NOT HAPPY > Freak out mode!)
3/25/12 UWSA2: 242 > (overestimate much! wishful thinking tho!)

Also finished UWorld Qbank with about 62%

I can see in doing questions that I seem to miss alot of the details. I plan on spending these last few days focusing on cramming those details/pharm into my head via flash cards. In doing so Id be laying off question practice until the exam....

Is this a bad idea?!
What is my realistic score range considering this fluctuation in scores?!

I do plan on completing the Kaplan Full length simulation this tuesday just to have a full idea of full 7 blocks and timing.
me too in the same boat..fluctuating score in nbme and uwsa..better give another nbme(Though not must)..just be confident and rest assured u will score high
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eek u got 206 a few days ago?
you need to take another nbme asap.
uwsa means nothing, its just blowing smoke up ur ass
take nbme 7 and see where u really are.
infact i differ from it..NBME has good predictive value no doubt,but its marking curve is just to harsh for anyone looking for 230s...and recently we can see loads of people overshooting it and getting low on exam and viceversa..uwsa 1 overpredicts but maybe by 10 points..so its basically pschycological now with so few days left and a score below par in nbme 7 will only doom the steptaker..
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infact i differ from it..NBME has good predictive value no doubt,but its marking curve is just to harsh for anyone looking for 230s...and recently we can see loads of people overshooting it and getting low on exam and viceversa..uwsa 1 overpredicts but maybe by 10 points..so its basically pschycological now with so few days left and a score below par in nbme 7 will only doom the steptaker..
if one truly wants to predict their score, its nbme and only nbme. uwsa is rubbish for this purpose.

but i do appreciate the value of going into the exam with confidence, and for that purpose uwsa is good because it overpredicts 10-25 pts.

so depends if you really want to know what you'll score or if you want a little bit of false hope to get u confident, which surely can help ur test day performance and bump u up a couple pts.


if u have like a week left, and u will not postpone ur exam, then dont even worry about self-assessments, just cram now.
if you will postpone your exam because u arent where you want to be, then take an nbme to determine that.
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I read the links... So I guess it's a NO to all my questions. Did I get it right?
- Does it give explanations to the questions? No
- Does it show a breakdown or point to weak subjects like the cumulative performance in uworld? No
- Can we access the questions after the test? If we can't, can we access the test questions through the kaplan qbank (maybe they're there somewhere?? No


If I did get it right... LOL! you could have just typed in those two letters, you know.

Hey when I gave that exam I was able to check my answers and review them! The only thing that the 7 hour course simulation exam is lacking is the 3 digit correlation to step 1..other than that its a beautiful mock exam to test how well you're prepared! It even tells you how you scored on each organ system/ discipline just as in the Kaplan Qbank. And since its 7 hours long it really tests your time management skills. However you get 45 mins of break after every block just pretend that you're doing a real exam and try to finish the exam in 8 hours!
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Hey when I gave that exam I was able to check my answers and review them! The only thing that the 7 hour course simulation exam is lacking is the 3 digit correlation to step 1..other than that its a beautiful mock exam to test how well you're prepared! It even tells you how you scored on each organ system/ discipline just as in the Kaplan Qbank. And since its 7 hours long it really tests your time management skills. However you get 45 mins of break after every block just pretend that you're doing a real exam and try to finish the exam in 8 hours!

Wow! Thank you very much!!

I'd write a paragraph of thank you's if only it won't be marked as spam! LOL!

That's great to hear! It's exactly what I need! I'm crying tears of joy...

Oh, hail Hope2Pass!
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Wow! Thank you very much!!

I'd write a paragraph of thank you's if only it won't be marked as spam! LOL!

That's great to hear! It's exactly what I need! I'm crying tears of joy...

Oh, hail Hope2Pass!
haha you make me laugh! And glad I could help ... Hope your 7 hour exam goes well! Take it in a restricted environment to fully simulate the real experience. That's what I did. Started around 10 and finished by 5! btw, you will not be happy with the image questions as the images in kaplan simulated exams are extremely tiny, you cannot enlarge them and they look very old-school/ distorted! That was the only problem I found with it.
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