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Microbiology Barking and Whooping Coughs!

Why is it that the kaplan notes does not relate the Pertusis infection with 'barking cough'? they say barking cough is for croup but can't it be the same for pertusis?
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Smile Pertussis vs. parainfluenza

My Kaplan Micro book says that barking cough is a specific symptom for parainfluenza, while bordetella pertussis cause ..."cough with inspiratory "whoop". In both cases it is dry and pretty loud. So, probably you should compare this sound to your lovely neighbor's dog. If you feel like that dog is driving you crazy because it barks at 3 AM, you definitely have a patient with parainfluenza .
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In that case i was wrong for a long long time. for some reason i have always related barking cough to pertusis. damn!
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PS: Am a dog person. no dog could drive me crazy (even with the barking)
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Who let the dogs out? Woof! Woof!

Perhaps you have been mislead by the correlation of "woof" to "whooping cough", aka pertussis. The cough in pertussis is notorious for lasting too long (in older eras it was also known as the "hundred days' disease").

Now that things have been made clear, let me tickle & stroke my doggy!
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In that case i was wrong for a long long time. for some reason i have always related barking cough to pertusis. damn!
thank u edZik.

PS: Am a dog person. no dog could drive me crazy (even with the barking)
Thats the thing about medicine and boards, everything has a synonym and more than one thing cause the thing that you once thougth was pathognomonic! You approrpriately related barking cough to pertussis, but also influenza croup will give you that as well! Shoot, I can even have dry respiratory airway and bark like a dog when I cough.

And remember guys, I was stating something good, if you are reading kaplan micro, which is more or less complete, as all of their subjects are, and you think its too easy, then great! You've come close to mastering that subject!

Also... ALL review material, EVERY book, EVERY doctor/person makes mistake! As you prepare for Step 1, you will see that you read something in one book and you'll hear something else (but similar!) in another book or audio tape! It's just the way it works. Sometimes I found myself rewinding Kaplan videos because I clearly heard a mistake, but one could tell it was just that the person said a word instead of another on pure accident, not because they did not know the knowledge or medicine pertaining to that area. It's funny sometimes. But just take it as a "Oh, I was smart enough to catch that mistake... NEXXXXTTT " and continue studying.

Miss Moscatello may say something, while Goljan's audio says another, and BRS micro or Micro made ridiculously simple says another thing. Sources are not published the same year or by the same people, there WILL be differences in some things, not all though (i.e Staph aureus will ALWAYS be gram positive and catalase/coagulase positive). If in a tape you hear someone say Staph aureus is Gram positive/catalase positive, coagulase positive and alpha hemolytic obviously you should be able to tell that it is NOT alpha hemolytic but is Beta.... again... THATS A GOOD THING!

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Who let the dogs out? Woof! Woof!

Perhaps you have been mislead by the correlation of "woof" to "whooping cough", aka pertussis. The cough in pertussis is notorious for lasting too long (in older eras it was also known as the "hundred days' disease").

Now that things have been made clear, let me tickle & stroke my doggy!

actually .. in my second year i remember reading somewhere that pertusis means barking. im sure now that i read it wrongly and if i hadnt brought it up here i still believed it was true. when i was studying kaplan i tot, well i know croup (parainfluenzae) gives a hoarseness cough and so i tot perhaps thats y they call it barking. this is really embarrassing. but im glad i brought it up here. now its all straightened out. thank u so much guys. this forum rocks!!

ps: im a lil jealous because im miles away from MY dog!!
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Actually "croup" means barking in Irish (this is Step 2CK knowledge )!
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